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[Keldon Northwind]

I'll believe it when I see it.

Anything before the ending is completely irrelevant as none of it matters in the end anyway.

[zSeven]

Well he said they were making more than just multiplayer maps. :/

[Mims]

Omega DLC will be like dropping a lighter back on fuel.

[Aiyie]

The Angry One wrote...

Yeah Omega will be so worth it.
I totally want to help Aria die cold, alone and starving in Omega.

Well I suppose it can work if you really want feel that, in the end, Shepard ****ed with Aria.

why the hate for Aria?

After all, when you passed out at the bar, she took care of you, even let you sleep it off on the couch under her watchful eye.

(course if you do it again she leaves you to rot in the elevator)

[BrotherFluffy]

Fishbulb wrote...

http://twitter.com/#!/gamblemike

Thoughts on what this could mean?

Omega?

Broken Steel 2.0?

It means they worked late.  That's it.  More PR spin and misdirection.  Until they flat out announce "Hey, working on the new endings!" I'm going to be a tad(read: VERY) skeptical of cryptic tweets and announcements like this one.  

[Silveralen]

sergeym1990 wrote...

Again, guys, it's just impossible make new endings in 2 weeks. So I see no reason to bash BioWare if it is not new endings. In fact if the do release new endings it would mean they planned all that along - which would be pretty low.

http://social.biowar...ndex/10124402/1

This guy made three new endings in 11 days. One fan. On his own. WIthout an entire staff of people and the resoures of a company.

They could easily do it in two weeks. FIrst they just have to admit the screwed up, and I think some staffers egos are too big for them to realize they amde a mistake.

[Kiara]

oh god, crossing my fingers they really mean it this time.

[The Angry One]

Aiyie wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Yeah Omega will be so worth it.
I totally want to help Aria die cold, alone and starving in Omega.

Well I suppose it can work if you really want feel that, in the end, Shepard ****ed with Aria.

why the hate for Aria?

After all, when you passed out at the bar, she took care of you, even let you sleep it off on the couch under her watchful eye.

(course if you do it again she leaves you to rot in the elevator)

I like Aria, some don't.
I recall some taking exception to the fact that Shep had no snarky comeback to her saying "Don't **** with Aria", hence the joke.

[Jacobcus]

The only way I see that they are working on End game DLC is if the true delay of Launch was due to the ending leak, out of Biowares frustration they created that terrible ending and have been working on the real ending this whole time. Other then that I don't see it truly happening.

[Kronner]

Kiara wrote...

oh god, crossing my fingers they really mean it this time.

It's Mike Gamble. Check out his pre-release interviews. Compare his statements to what actually is in the game. Anything he says is likely a well constructed lie, or he is just confused. In any case, what he says is often not true.

[archanesoldier]

I am beginning to think that this whole ending fiasco was a botched social experiment by Bioware. They made it seem like the end of the game so that players would pick one of the three options (assumes indoctrination theory) and because they have origin that tracks player choices they could later come out later and say look 30% of you were all fooled by harbinger just like Saren and TIM were by choosing Control or Synsthesis. This would explain why they keep saying we have to wait till more people finish the game, because they want a larger sample say 1,000,000 people.

I think that they were always planning on having more to the ending, but they were rushed or they thought up this weird experiment. This also would tie into the idea on other threads about the "Truth" DLC and the one about the disgruntled Bioware employee.

Many of you will say this is a conspiracy theory and why would they ****** off their loyal customers. But the answer to that is simple they never imagined that it would actually enrage people, instead they thought it would lead to "Lots of Speculation". Because of the miscalculated level of anger they have deployed the PR tactics to stall. And the reason they are stalling is the same reason why the "team put in another late night" and that is the Ending DLC/Expansion was not finished yet, even though it had been in the production prior to launch. And they have not finished it yet because they were not going to annouce the "Truth" until a set number of people finished the game which would take time probably around April either the 1st or when they are at PAX. And this Clusterf*** has expedited those plans hence the long nights.

And to combat those from saying that "why don't they just say they are working on the ending?" because doing so would undermine the experiment, and they do not want to influence how choose which option to take.

OR I could be completely wrong and it was just incompetence and bad writing and they are now frantically trying to fix the end, but I have to have hope that it wasn't just bad a ending to an other wise great series.

Either way I will continue to Hold the Line.
(Note all of this assumes the Final Hour stuff was incomplete information, and they were just trying to make it seem like it was the end)

[Samuel_Valkyrie]

Interesting, thanks for sharing. I'll wait to see what he's talking about, before I mvoe a muscle on my poker-face.

[Fl1xx]

Wowlock wrote...
Until I see something ''solid'' , I will hold my breath.

Your face is going to be awfully blue by the time we get a clear statement.

[StrickenMaverick]

Kumekerion wrote...

What gets me is why didn't the people making the game, not just the directors, notice something was amiss? Surely one of them must have stopped and said, "hold on guys, there's no way fans will like what we're doing with the ending."

Exactly what I thought. You would think that someone would stand up and say 'hey, this might
not be such a good idea, guys.'

[Mallissin]

archanesoldier wrote...

I am beginning to think that this whole ending fiasco was a botched social experiment by Bioware. They made it seem like the end of the game so that players would pick one of the three options (assumes indoctrination theory) and because they have origin that tracks player choices they could later come out later and say look 30% of you were all fooled by harbinger just like Saren and TIM were by choosing Control or Synsthesis. This would explain why they keep saying we have to wait till more people finish the game, because they want a larger sample say 1,000,000 people.

I think that they were always planning on having more to the ending, but they were rushed or they thought up this weird experiment. This also would tie into the idea on other threads about the "Truth" DLC and the one about the disgruntled Bioware employee.

Many of you will say this is a conspiracy theory and why would they ****** off their loyal customers. But the answer to that is simple they never imagined that it would actually enrage people, instead they thought it would lead to "Lots of Speculation". Because of the miscalculated level of anger they have deployed the PR tactics to stall. And the reason they are stalling is the same reason why the "team put in another late night" and that is the Ending DLC/Expansion was not finished yet, even though it had been in the production prior to launch. And they have not finished it yet because they were not going to annouce the "Truth" until a set number of people finished the game which would take time probably around April either the 1st or when they are at PAX. And this Clusterf*** has expedited those plans hence the long nights.

And to combat those from saying that "why don't they just say they are working on the ending?" because doing so would undermine the experiment, and they do not want to influence how choose which option to take.

OR I could be completely wrong and it was just incompetence and bad writing and they are now frantically trying to fix the end, but I have to have hope that it wasn't just bad a ending to an other wise great series.

Either way I will continue to Hold the Line.
(Note all of this assumes the Final Hour stuff was incomplete information, and they were just trying to make it seem like it was the end)

That's pretty sick.

So they shift through hundreds of thousands of saves, decide which ending would..what? ****** off or appease the most people, and then all of the others lead to Critical Mission Failure?

I'm pretty sure that'll set a precedent for computer games that hopefully no one will ever follow again.

[Jacobcus]

Mallissin wrote...

archanesoldier wrote...

I am beginning to think that this whole ending fiasco was a botched social experiment by Bioware. They made it seem like the end of the game so that players would pick one of the three options (assumes indoctrination theory) and because they have origin that tracks player choices they could later come out later and say look 30% of you were all fooled by harbinger just like Saren and TIM were by choosing Control or Synsthesis. This would explain why they keep saying we have to wait till more people finish the game, because they want a larger sample say 1,000,000 people.

I think that they were always planning on having more to the ending, but they were rushed or they thought up this weird experiment. This also would tie into the idea on other threads about the "Truth" DLC and the one about the disgruntled Bioware employee.

Many of you will say this is a conspiracy theory and why would they ****** off their loyal customers. But the answer to that is simple they never imagined that it would actually enrage people, instead they thought it would lead to "Lots of Speculation". Because of the miscalculated level of anger they have deployed the PR tactics to stall. And the reason they are stalling is the same reason why the "team put in another late night" and that is the Ending DLC/Expansion was not finished yet, even though it had been in the production prior to launch. And they have not finished it yet because they were not going to annouce the "Truth" until a set number of people finished the game which would take time probably around April either the 1st or when they are at PAX. And this Clusterf*** has expedited those plans hence the long nights.

And to combat those from saying that "why don't they just say they are working on the ending?" because doing so would undermine the experiment, and they do not want to influence how choose which option to take.

OR I could be completely wrong and it was just incompetence and bad writing and they are now frantically trying to fix the end, but I have to have hope that it wasn't just bad a ending to an other wise great series.

Either way I will continue to Hold the Line.
(Note all of this assumes the Final Hour stuff was incomplete information, and they were just trying to make it seem like it was the end)

That's pretty sick.

So they shift through hundreds of thousands of saves, decide which ending would..what? ****** off or appease the most people, and then all of the others lead to Critical Mission Failure?

I'm pretty sure that'll set a precedent for computer games that hopefully no one will ever follow again.

It is an interesting theory, but no game company would take such a high risk, they could lose so much in the backlash, I wouldn't beable to believe it.

[sergeym1990]

Silveralen wrote...

sergeym1990 wrote...Again, guys, it's just impossible make new endings in 2 weeks. So I see no reason to bash BioWare if it is not new endings. In fact if the do release new endings it would mean they planned all that along - which would be pretty low.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10124402/1This guy made three new endings in 11 days. One fan. On his own. WIthout an entire staff of people and the resoures of a company. They could easily do it in two weeks. FIrst they just have to admit the screwed up, and I think some staffers egos are too big for them to realize they amde a mistake.

wow, this guy rocks. still I think just changing final video will not be enough for BioWare, so it will take some time.

[Deemz]

Tazzmission wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

I wish they would stop tweeting and post on their OFFICIAL forums where their actual fanbase is.

um do you think they should expecially with the way people are on the forums?

thats like career suicide

The forums are easy for them to avoid and honestly I would not blame them. Twitter is not so easy unless they want to turn their phones and ipads off. I suppose they could reinstall the app whenever they want to say something.

[Jacobcus]

I know one thing, the Ending had a "MASS" effect on all of us :Ð! Lol I'm sorry, you have to laugh in order to keep from crying...ya know.

[sergeym1990]

All they say on Twitter is their personal opinion and not some official statement.

[QuanManChu]

I'll be enjoying ME 1 & 2 this weekend....as for 3 and the half-hearted token gesture that is MP weekend? I think not.

[Rafe34]

Mallissin wrote...

archanesoldier wrote...

I am beginning to think that this whole ending fiasco was a botched social experiment by Bioware. They made it seem like the end of the game so that players would pick one of the three options (assumes indoctrination theory) and because they have origin that tracks player choices they could later come out later and say look 30% of you were all fooled by harbinger just like Saren and TIM were by choosing Control or Synsthesis. This would explain why they keep saying we have to wait till more people finish the game, because they want a larger sample say 1,000,000 people.

I think that they were always planning on having more to the ending, but they were rushed or they thought up this weird experiment. This also would tie into the idea on other threads about the "Truth" DLC and the one about the disgruntled Bioware employee.

Many of you will say this is a conspiracy theory and why would they ****** off their loyal customers. But the answer to that is simple they never imagined that it would actually enrage people, instead they thought it would lead to "Lots of Speculation". Because of the miscalculated level of anger they have deployed the PR tactics to stall. And the reason they are stalling is the same reason why the "team put in another late night" and that is the Ending DLC/Expansion was not finished yet, even though it had been in the production prior to launch. And they have not finished it yet because they were not going to annouce the "Truth" until a set number of people finished the game which would take time probably around April either the 1st or when they are at PAX. And this Clusterf*** has expedited those plans hence the long nights.

And to combat those from saying that "why don't they just say they are working on the ending?" because doing so would undermine the experiment, and they do not want to influence how choose which option to take.

OR I could be completely wrong and it was just incompetence and bad writing and they are now frantically trying to fix the end, but I have to have hope that it wasn't just bad a ending to an other wise great series.

Either way I will continue to Hold the Line.
(Note all of this assumes the Final Hour stuff was incomplete information, and they were just trying to make it seem like it was the end)

That's pretty sick.

So they shift through hundreds of thousands of saves, decide which ending would..what? ****** off or appease the most people, and then all of the others lead to Critical Mission Failure?

I'm pretty sure that'll set a precedent for computer games that hopefully no one will ever follow again.

They pretty much already did that, though.

[Zolt51]

Kumekerion wrote...

What gets me is why didn't the people making the game, not just the directors, notice something was amiss? Surely one of them must have stopped and said, "hold on guys, there's no way fans will like what we're doing with the ending."

The thing is, an ending like that would be kept top secret for fear of leaks. I think only a handful of people actually knew the ending before the game hit production stage, people who had been closely involved with the creative process for years. It's hard for people to see the flaws in their "baby" when they're so close to the subject. Especially so with big, sci-fi concepts where suspension of disbelief will be required to some extent.

Just... be considerate, and be constructive in your comments. The bioware team are people, like you and I. They have put years of their life in this product. If you flood them with negative comments, they'll just give up.

Modifié par Zolt51, 17 mars 2012 - 06:06 .

[archanesoldier]

[quote]Mallissin wrote...

That's pretty sick.

So they shift through hundreds of thousands
of saves, decide which ending would..what? ****** off or appease the most
people, and then all of the others lead to Critical Mission Failure?

I'm pretty sure that'll set a precedent for computer games that hopefully no one will ever follow again.
[/quote]



[/quote]

What I thinking is less of what would ****** off or appease people, but more like how they have released data saying that 82% of players are playing with a Broshep and _% are soldiers.  Also I do not think this was the original plan and the rewrite froced by the leak made it immpossiible for them to finish it in the timeframe EA wanted/needed for their shareholders, so they came up with this wierd experiment ending. And I agree if  it were true it would set a very bad precendent.

Modifié par archanesoldier, 17 mars 2012 - 06:07 .

[LordHelfort]

BrotherFluffy wrote...

Fishbulb wrote...

http://twitter.com/#!/gamblemike

Thoughts on what this could mean?

Omega?

Broken Steel 2.0?

It means they worked late.  That's it.  More PR spin and misdirection.  Until they flat out announce "Hey, working on the new endings!" I'm going to be a tad(read: VERY) skeptical of cryptic tweets and announcements like this one.  

This. Provided they did in fact actually work late (which is essentially unverifiable). Give hope, misdirection, try to derail people. They've been doing alot of it lately with some effectiveness.

When he tells us hes working late on fixing the botched endings, then I'll be happy. Everything else should just be ignored.

Hold the Line.