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Ninjaphrog

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Haaaaaay tis froggyyyy!

So it's been a few days and I've been playin some moa just cause I have not gotten any new video games since I moved to the states(I miss Oblivion...)

I've noticed alot of people complain about the straight forward and to the point idea, except for an occasional "BUT!" (classic example: Guardian of Andraste before The Gauntlet). I have to agree with it <.< The game is relatively short for the amount of content presented....And the puzzles in it? *Yawn* twas so easy I nearly snapped my jaw when trying to yawn and chuckle at the same time...

Also...has anyone else noticed the poor job they did with the scenery?....Everything looks alike...in total there're....4 new places to explore after Ostagar....Deep Roads...Brecilian Forest....Frostback Mountains....and Denerim...that's pretty much it. Everything else looks the same....the back alleys in Denerim are all the same...the random fight scenes are all the same....except for a few minor twists....a bush here...a fallen tree there...It reminds me of those sucky old car driving games where the new unlockable tracks were the old tracks driven in the opposite direction........need I say more?Posted Image

I might not have to but I will. People always say that this game is NOTHING like World of Warcraft...in some cases that's most DEFFINATELY true...much more story going on, and good job on that...but really...If you say DAO looks nothing like WoW you've never played WoW...

Hotbar: almost completely identical to WoW hotbar...
Minimap: Completely identical
Party portrait list: Completely identical
Inventory style: Completely identical
Fighting style: Completely identical(I even have a spell name ripoff...in WoW a mage can learn Cone of Cold if specced into frost....hmmm...sounds awfully familiar to that frost spell in the primal category.......Posted Image)Both spell have exactly the same effects except for the freezing solid part, although it's a possibility.

Technically I'd say Bioware has taken a few pointers from the WoW UI layout....just saying...seems awfully familiar...

And then we have the Origins...fantastic job...wont put exclamations behind that cause the shere awesomeness of them require so many I'd get banned for spamming(Whats new)...they're different...they're fun...they're well written...and they're not instantly over...and the coolest part is that you can travel back there once you're all powered up and geared out to get back at whoever pissed in your neck.

Now why can't the rest of the game have been this good?...I get the feeling like Bioware was all excited and had awesome ideas and really did a great job...but once the whole Dragon Age: ORIGINS part was over with...things just kinda fell apart...as said before lousy work on the repeating scenery...and the travel map is just a damn joke...you can't even take a stroll down Denerims main street and maybe enter shops on the way...tell me...with the market district being in the most northern part..and the royal area in the west/southwest area...then EVERYTHING from those borders to the docks are slums and backalley roads?....damn....and I who thought the Alienage was ill taken care of...Posted Image

The geological factors have also been ignored...for example...the castle of Redcliffe is directly south of the circle tower...but if you point north in the actual game, and the go to the full world map....you're actually pointing the wrong way....it's obvious that Bioware do not like the exploration part...which...in a game like DAO...is quite important...




And please...for the love of me...Don't complain about this being based on personal opinions...of course it's based on personal opinions you morron...what post like this one is not?....Posted Image

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DariusKalera

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Um, just so you know, the "Cone of Cold" spell is probably an easy 20 years older than WoW. It had its origins in PnP DnD.



If anything, WoW ripped it off of that.

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Ninjaphrog

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congratulations you proved me wrong in .5% of the entire post...



any responses or comments not fueled by relentless hatred to my awesomeness?

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I think you're swell.

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Jazharah

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Forum troll is trolling?

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Jazharah wrote...

Forum troll is trolling?


If by trolling you mean expressing my dissatisfaction with the overall lack of work put into this potentially awesome game? Then yes....

If by trolling you mean mindlessly b****ing just cause I felt like it?....partially...you wanna fight about it?

U & ME GO NAO! Posted Image

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Taleroth wrote...

I think you're swell.


I'm married don't get any fancy ideas....Ice works with the swelling.

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The great thing about cheating is that you get the best of both worlds, take for example my mage "Luther" he packs most the spells of a demi-god but also gets to wear the shiny and cool looking Juggernaut armor along with starfang+duncans shield.



Did I mention he has one punch K.O. thanks to the attribute glitch, anyhow that's my random bizzare quote of the day.

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Jazharah

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Nah, don't need to fight about it, just feeding you.

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Ninjaphrog wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

I think you're swell.


I'm married don't get any fancy ideas....Ice works with the swelling.

I bet I could take your wife.

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Taleroth wrote...

Ninjaphrog wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

I think you're swell.


I'm married don't get any fancy ideas....Ice works with the swelling.

I bet I could take your wife.


Honestly I think it'd be her who took you...Posted Image

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From the urban dictionary when i tried to figure out why you keep saying morron ....



2.) More commonly, an incorrect spelling of the word 'moron' Used exclusively by true morons in all forms of print as well as the internet. This misspelling is a clear indication that the user is not just a moron but also an illiterate ignoramus incapable of intelligent intercourse with the rest of humanity.

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hmm...Last time I checked the 'rest of humanity' didn't really give a **** about wether it be spelled with 1 or 2 Rs...but I see you have such a massive lack of life that finding miss spellings is the most satisfying thing to do...



I should also let you know that english really is not my national language so my english is not perfect =) But I see how much of an intolerant unloved pile of filth you are...so just to avoid you bursting into tears or anything I'll let you leave with a small amount of dignity...



Cool story bro.

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Not fueled by hatred. I don't know you well enough to hate you.



But, if you want some more on how your post was wrong, lets try your comparisons to WoW.



1: Hot Bar: yes, almost identical...and almost identical to the Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale hot bars. Both series of games are a bit older than WoW.



2: Mini Map: Same as above.



3: Party Portrait: Same



4: Inventory: See point #1



5: Fighting Style: Well, there are only so many ways to use mages, tanks and rogues. If they have similar capabilities then they're going to be used the same. Hence fighting styles are similar.



(Basically, the same UI has been used for over a decade by numerous games)



As for the rest of it though, you do have a few points.

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~grabs popcorn, watches troll proceed trolling, tosses an occasional kernel at the troll~

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Darius beat me to it...

Modifié par Aderis, 29 novembre 2009 - 08:26 .


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Ninjaphrog wrote...

I might not have to but I will. People always say that this game is NOTHING like World of Warcraft...in some cases that's most DEFFINATELY true...much more story going on, and good job on that...but really...If you say DAO looks nothing like WoW you've never played WoW...


Actually, most of the UI is just a logical derivation of the Baldur's Gate games and the other DnD games Bioware did.  So are the stats and spells, for that matter.

And, really, when accusing people of ripping stuff off, best not to mention Blizzard.  Blizzard isn't exactly known for their original thought.  They take what others have done and they polish it.  That's what they do and they do it well.  Take Diablo, for example, Angband with graphics and a save button.  So, need to go to whoever Blizzard took the ideas from.

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............why...............can
't............people..........use............proper.........punctuation?.........

spacebar...........is.........easier.........than.........ellipsis............looks.........less..........retarded..........

warcraft..............ui...........no............different.........than............other.........rpgs.............not.........original............there............

either..........but.........functional...........and............simple...........

could............have...........used...............nwn..............style............hotkeys...........or.........nwn2.........casting...........bar..........

i.........agree........

oblivion..........had...........open...........world............but........no..........real.............characters.........plot...........or..........

interesting..........combat.............boring...........without..........mods...........which.........this.........game.............also...........

.has...........

if..........i.......hat....do................chose............i'd..........pick............story...........and..........gameplay..........over..............

big..............empty...............world..............

travel..................map...............similar.............in..............all.............respects.............to..........maps............in.............

other..............rpgs...................made............by...........same...........company..................

easier..........that..........way............to.............mod...........in..........new............content.........no......chance..........of...........

mods..........overriding............each.......other.........like...........in..........oblivion.............

typing.........this........wayy............incredibly............lame................gbak2........school.........and.....taking..........

keyboarding..........class............

Modifié par Malkut, 29 novembre 2009 - 08:31 .


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Ninjaphrog wrote...

hmm...Last time I checked the 'rest of humanity' didn't really give a **** about wether it be spelled with 1 or 2 Rs...but I see you have such a massive lack of life that finding miss spellings is the most satisfying thing to do...

I should also let you know that english really is not my national language so my english is not perfect =) But I see how much of an intolerant unloved pile of filth you are...so just to avoid you bursting into tears or anything I'll let you leave with a small amount of dignity...

Cool story bro.


lol fail troll has fail comeback, i like spell checking know it all illiterates as much as illiterate trolls love to troll. And for you letting ME leave with a small amount of dignity ... lol thanks for that but seriously are you manic or something because im pretty sure your the only one that thinks you have scored some sick burn or something.

NT though, well not really...:(

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HA I KNEW IT! :P

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...............i.....................broke............................ur.................................tables....................what..................now?.........

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Hotbar: almost completely identical to WoW hotbar...


Which is itself similar to the Baldur's Gate hotbar. Which predates WoW by a long way.

Minimap: Completely identical


How many ways are there to design a minimap? The whole "minimap" thing hasn't changed notably since it first started cropping up in RTS games. Which predate WoW by a long way.

Party portrait list: Completely identical


Again, see Baldur's Gate.

Inventory style: Completely identical


...what?

Dragon Age has a huge scrolling list of your whole inventory. WoW has this ridiculous "bag" system. They are completely unalike.



the random fight scenes are all the same....except for a few minor twists....a bush here...a fallen tree there...


There's a reason maps are re-used, both in Dragon Age and in those old racing games - space requirements.

Dragon Age is already huge in terms of byte size (check the properties on your install directory if you really need confirmation) - creating entirely different areas for every random encounter would likely increase that significantly.

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Bioware copied Blizzard



End of discussion

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No matter how many times you claim otherwise, argument by assertion is still fallacious.

Blizzard copied SOE, by the way.

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Married, expecting my daughter this christmas! Trolling is fun cause you all react to it...morrons.


Seriously I'd expect someone who has a child coming in one month to have more constructive things to do as well as more satisfying source of pleasure than trolling on video-game's forums. I cannot but feel sorry for your wife and kid.

Also you seem to have a lot of high level characters for someone who hates this game so much...
Just sayin'