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[gx99-nq9y]

funny i allways got the shield on my first try

[XOGHunter246]

I never really reload my game and I played 6 times and have not got this guess i need to reload more often.

[Reinoc]

I don't know if it's a coincidence, but I got it on my 4th try, the only time nobody in my party died.

Modifié par Reinoc, 31 décembre 2009 - 08:28 .

[stribies]

Got mine on the 2nd try. I wish there were more bosses like him to fight honestly.

[XOGHunter246]

stribies wrote...

Got mine on the 2nd try. I wish there were more bosses like him to fight honestly.

 
Agreed there seem to lack bosses that heal a lot or regenerate health.

[DJ0000]

To the guy who asked where he is read this, http://dragonage.wik...m/wiki/Unbound. I haven't found him in the three times I've played it and I always wondered what was in that building.

[PatT2]

You have to find all 3 of the "hints" first, before you will be able to access the place you find him. Otherwise the door is locked and is not pickable. There's a note on a dead adventurer, there's a crazy adventurer in Tapsters and there's a 3rd one (I am not sure I remember atm).

Sadly, I've never gotten the Fade Wall or the Warden's Tower shields.

Modifié par PatT2, 31 décembre 2009 - 10:43 .

[Basher of Glory]

In my last game I had to kill him twice, then he dropped the shield. Both times I used mana clash and he was dead before the fight even started.



In all former games, when I didn't know about this shield, I killed him in melee but never got the drop.

[Reinoc]

PatT2 wrote...

You have to find all 3 of the "hints" first, before you will be able to access the place you find him. Otherwise the door is locked and is not pickable. There's a note on a dead adventurer (lower ruins, brecilian forest, room with all the traps) , there's a crazy adventurer in Tapsters and there's a 3rd one (I am not sure I remember atm) (dead knight, temple of the sacred ashes)  .

Sadly, I've never gotten the Fade Wall or the Warden's Tower shields.

Modifié par Reinoc, 31 décembre 2009 - 10:54 .

[Theramond]

Two words: mana clash

Modifié par Theramond, 31 décembre 2009 - 10:57 .

[PatT2]

@Theramond what part of not getting a reward item to drop after defeating him has anything to do with how to defeat him? Most of us have already indicated that we are able to defeat him. That's not the point. It's whether or not he drops the Fade Wall Shield when he dies.



@ Reinoc huh?



Have folks been imbibing already?

[JaegerBane]

Theramond wrote...

Two words: mana clash

QFT. I think I got the Heavy Hitter achievement using that spell on Gaxxkang.

I've never really been a sword'n'boarder. I've never got the shield but, to be honest, is it worth putting on an Arcane Warrior while having *no* Shield talents? I didn't think the stats were all that great...

I'm thinking of just slapping together a cheap and nasty mod that just gives me whatever gear I want when I turn it on. I hate these ultra-low drop rate concepts.

Modifié par JaegerBane, 01 janvier 2010 - 12:06 .

[Basher of Glory]

About mana clash:

When you kill the guy with this spell does not mean, that the drop is guaranteed.

It is just the most convenient way, because you don't have to go through a lengthy melee fight over and over again.

Go in, mana clash, check loot. No shield? Repeat. Thus, you can kill him a couple of times within some minutes. Mostly the drop occurs after the second or third try.



OTOH I agree: The shield is definitely not worth the efforts, if one has no need for *another* good shield.

[JaegerBane]

Baher of Glory wrote...
OTOH I agree: The shield is definitely not worth the efforts, if one has no need for *another* good shield.

I think my issue is that since I have no shield talents then I won't be able to do anything offensive with it. Dual wielding a Dagger and Sword is fine as even without any talents of that type, I still get to use both weapons simultaneously and still get the worth of raining down blows.

Do characters use their shield as a weapon without having shield talents?

[Basher of Glory]

JaegerBane wrote...

Do characters use their shield as a weapon without having shield talents?

IMO no. In some games I gave a shield to Lelianna until she leveled up. Some animations showed her blocking incomming blows, but as we know in the meantime, this is just eye candy. She never used it in an offensive way.
As far as I can tell, a shield for a non-talented character boosts defence and that's it.

Of course there is the argument to use a shield as an additional stat-boost. If I remember correctly the "Fade Wall" has interesting stats for an AW, right?

[XOGHunter246]

Well my Arcane Warrior used a shield and sword with not shield talents for stats boosts.

[JaegerBane]

Baher of Glory wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

Do characters use their shield as a weapon without having shield talents?

IMO no. In some games I gave a shield to Lelianna until she leveled up. Some animations showed her blocking incomming blows, but as we know in the meantime, this is just eye candy. She never used it in an offensive way.
As far as I can tell, a shield for a non-talented character boosts defence and that's it.

Of course there is the argument to use a shield as an additional stat-boost. If I remember correctly the "Fade Wall" has interesting stats for an AW, right?

As I mentioned, the stats aren't that great. Certainly not good enough to compensate for the loss of the damage against enemies that having a dagger in the off hand would.

As far as I could see, it gave a 25pt bonus to mana, some minor defence boost, and a boost to healing spells, plus the basics you'd get from a Silverite shield. Considering I'm also incurring a 6% fatigue hit on top of the loss of damage done then I'm not really sure just how useful it actually is.

[Kristofer Wolf]

Just to put my 2 cents in on this - I fought this guy probably about 15 times. I tried it on Normal (all the way through) about 5 of those. I tried the Normal switched to Nightmare, Casual switched to Nightmare, and Normal/Casual switched to Hard - all nothing.



I finally got it on a Casual play without ever switching - wierd.



As an aside, he was in the melee form several of the kills, including the last room.

[ZyGophe]

Reinoc wrote...

I don't know if it's a coincidence, but I got it on my 4th try, the only time nobody in my party died.

I think Reinoc has the right of it - you get the Fade Wall shield only if nobody in your party falls. I was trying to play entire game on Nightmare, got frustrated, switched to Normal and got the drop first time. I reloaded my Nightmare save, made sure none of my party fell and sure enough got the drop again.

I don't believe there is a drop rate on this item, nor does it matter what difficulty is set.

Oh, and you might like to try http://www.dragonage...file.php?id=573 to fix healing bug

Modifié par ZyGophé, 13 novembre 2010 - 12:20 .

[mousestalker]

edited for idiocy

Modifié par mousestalker, 13 novembre 2010 - 12:42 .

[Liliandra Nadiar]

I've not once had a party member fall against Gax. Fought him about across 7 playthroughs. Last two were on hard, very last one I reloaded and fought him three times to get it to drop, on Nightmare, other two on hard. So my own breakdown for Fade Wall drop has been:

Easy: No plays, no drop

Normal: 5 plays, no drop

Hard: 4 plays, 2 drops

Nightmare: 1 play, no drop

May have had some party falls on the first two or so times while still learning the finer points of the game, but since then? It tends to be a fairly quick fight.

[FpsGangsta]

I guess the drop is random,

I don't think difficulty matters, as i can manage to get it on any difficulty within 3-4 tries

[eadgster]

I killed him ~7 times on nightmare without the shield dropping and then swapped back to normal and it dropped first try.  I did notice that the loot table was different when he died in caster form vs knight form.  He dropped potions and gems in knight form and 4-5g in caster form. When he finally did drop the shield, he died in knight form.

[Etiological Myth]

Honesty1985 wrote...

ya, I just killed him approx 50 times. He always dies in Sword/Shield mode, his forms are based off what % of HP he's at.

 Actually I killed Gaxkang, on Nightmare, 15+ times and sometimes he died in spirit form -- it was probably because I used Petrify and he couldn't change but...
 Oh and I'm still trying to get the shield .

[tyrannosaur56]

gaxkang is the boss for the quest unbound. check the wiki for details to unlock the quest.
i have no luck so far with fade wall... even warden tower shield took me nearly 10-15 tries to get it. i will try to get fade wall with my current playthrough of arcane warrior tho...