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[Sunaya]

XombieMaxx wrote...
Some people also don't seem to realise that there might not even be a 'Dalish Elf background and dialogue' I'm assuming we're trying to come to terms with a 'vote' to see if anyone actually get's someone turning around and saying "Omfg Dalish elf" instead of "Enchantment?"

It may be a game bug where there should be people noticing but I wouldn't put my bets on it... yeah other Dalish will realise and that's probably about it... I'm guessing you'll get 5% of your dialog usage from your Dalish background... other than that you're stuck with being a false Alienage elf...

I 'HOPE' it's a bug I really do, I'm not saying I am right I just wouldn't set my mind on something being a 'bug' that happens constantly, bugs aren't that linear.

Um....as I said in my post...people DO properly notice you as being Dalish in the game. Play as one and you will see.

[Radahldo]

I think he's confused because he cannot select neither the of Alienage Dalish elf backgrounds, as a mage; he may believe those are vague background-filler with no real distinction between the two., when it actuality there is a clear attitudinal and visual difference between the two.

That doesnt account for arguing something he clearly has no idea about, though. 
Lol "there may be no dalish background"

Modifié par Radahldo, 29 novembre 2009 - 09:04 .

[LadyRae9]

When you play as an Elven Mage it's assumed you were born into an Alienage since the Chantry would not go trolling for mages in the woods.



When I've played as a Dalish Elf (and I will grant you, I've not gone very far with it), my dialog options were suited to having lived in a forest, not in the Alienage :shrug:

[XombieMaxx]

Wow... you guys are calling me a troll... I simply agreed to all of you and you insult me. Ok I won't post anymore on your thread...



I was trying my best to be nice but it seems immaturity has got the best of me. Meaning those of you who seek to 'troll'.



You don't seem to realise what I said at all, it's like you have a brain somewhere but not of this world. Obviously there is a Dalish background but it may not have been implimented more than you thought it should be... obviously you want to fight but I'm not the person that you will be getting that from.



I know how programming works and good luck assuming it will one day be fixed because yes 'He assumes they are lazy' are they not? So if a game has many noticable bugs that could be fixed before release it is not laziness? It could be a mistake or it could be that there is no true need to put a dialog for every little thing.



I never said Dalish don't have a background, I said they will probably only have 5% of it... meaning that obviously the only people who would notice are the 'plot liners' not the 'randoms' yeah I'm here to troll, I was the first to start name calling yes it was me.

[KirbySkywalker]

man these forums kill my opinion of bioware. the op here is having the story progress as if he is a city elf but he is not, people are having their DLC get corrupted and ruin their game, on ps3 you can only save the game to your system so if your system breaks or if you need to transfer systems you must start a new game, DEXTERITY for certain skills is bugged, the toolset breaks peoples games, in many fights range is useless because the forced conversation before the fight pulls you in the middle of the group... DLC doesn't show up after purchase for some... many people are having issues where their quests can not advance...



what a shame. these games are too expensive and time consuming for this.

[Tosheroon]

KirbySkywalker wrote...

man these forums kill my opinion of bioware. the op here is having the story progress as if he is a city elf but he is not, people are having their DLC get corrupted and ruin their game, on ps3 you can only save the game to your system so if your system breaks or if you need to transfer systems you must start a new game, DEXTERITY for certain skills is bugged, the toolset breaks peoples games, in many fights range is useless because the forced conversation before the fight pulls you in the middle of the group... DLC doesn't show up after purchase for some... many people are having issues where their quests can not advance...

what a shame. these games are too expensive and time consuming for this.

And yet we play and enjoy the game instead of hijacking threads with off-topic ranting. <_<

As for OP, definitely a game glitch. Strange bug though, kind of surreal.

[KEMKA]

@XombieMaxx

thing is there IS a Dalish Elf Origin (just to list them: Dalish elf, City Elf, Mage, Human noble, Dwarf noble, Dwarf commoner). There is most likely a variable or whatever somewhere that records a character origin, this is then used to trigger certain dialog options and reactions etc when you interact with other characters, it possibly has other effects too, like on the main campaign or side quests? The problem the OP is having is that this variable has been set to City elf instead of Dalish elf, so ALL dialog options etc that depend on his origin are responding as though his character was a City elf. Another poster mention that maybe the fact your character is an elf Mage is confusing you? alot of the early background for an elf Mage is skimmed over in the Mage origin.



@OP go post in technical forums, they may be able to help out?

[h0w1er]

When I'm played with city elf it was something like "OMG, Dalish Elfs are really exist? OMG!! I thought it's a fairytale"... And it was a dialogue betweeen two elfs (PC and NPC). So even if city elfs have no idea about Dalish then how the other world should react? Everyone knows slave elfs from cities. That's probably why you have in the dialogue answers about the city elf's life. But it will be really strange if the Dalish elf knows how to answer about city elf's life-style.

[h0w1er]

:Double post:

Modifié par h0w1er, 29 novembre 2009 - 10:59 .

[Koralis]

Sunaya wrote...

I have NO idea what everyone is talking about when it comes to the Dalish. I played as a Dalish elf on my first playthrough, and the Dalish elves in the Brecilian forest recognized me as one of their own. They regarded my party with a lot of trust, and treated me very politely.

Aside from that, I found many NPCs treated me no differently than they would treat an elven slave, being naive humans and all. My party members recognized me as being specifically Dalish, however.

So to answer the OPs question...it's a bug, I think?

Ditto.  That was with 1.01a though.   Maybe 1.01b broke it?

[Rainen89]

I've played city elf and dalish elf the only "bug" I saw was with leliana asking me about the alienage, everything else and everyone else regarded me as they would a dalish elf, especially in brecillian forest. Could be a bug? Dunno, probably would be remedied on a different play through, my apologies for the inconveniance though.

[SLPr0]

Theres a recently released mod called AllCanLearn which is basically a way to open up all skills to all classes.

If you're using it it does have the unfortunate side effect of completely buggering your origin designation for some reason, I had my human noble greeted as a human peasant from Redcliffe by King Cailan, which was an origin cut from the game but for some reason the script designation is still there.

Also, this mod will cause errors in regards to adding new companions to the party, if you switch a companion out and bring in a new one when reloading, the fourth newly gained companion is there, but blue ringed and not on the party status menu at all, and will not follow you regardless of being "accepted" and set as part of the active party or not.

These errors combined pretty much convinced me to dump it, even though it really did give some interesting character creation capabilities like being able to create a WoW style Paladin or a Deathknight or all kinds of stuff for to amuse you for your own originalities sake.

So I like the idea of the mod, cause lets be frank theres nothing you can do in Dragon Age that one of the NPCs isn't already doing with the exception of DW Warrior, so having a mod allow you to mix up a characters abilities and choose from all pools was a really cool idea, but it just broke the game too bad.

But anyways that mod, and of course the Respec mods, are the only mods I'm aware of that have the potential to screw up your origin designation, AllCanLearn just seems to do it without any intervention at all, the Respec mods largely make it occur from user ignorance of what one of the items or options does.

[Rishavs]

I believe that the OPs problem is genuine. Most people of this game shouldn't be able to tell the difference between Dalish or City elves. Also, since they mostly come in contact with the city elves, the protagnist may be frequently mistaken to be a city elf. However, the city elves and the Dalish themselves should make no such mistakes at all. they should easily be able to tell the difference.

to put it simply, to most people of the world, people from USA are "Americans". but an "american" will have no trouble differentiating between a so called "redneck" or a "yankee"

[Gecon]

I havent played Daelish past the Origin, but yes, party members and other Daelish should recognize you're Daelish, because of the way you dress, speak etc.

[MMkain]

I get the same problem when playing as an Elf with the Magi origin. They all seem to assume he was raised in the ghettos.

[LadyRae9]

Actually, you were. At least until you started to show signs of Magic and the Chantry grabbed you away from your family.



The Chantry doesn't operate in the Dales - at least they don't grab from the Dalish - so yes, you are a city elf. You've simply not lived in an Alienage since you were a small child.

[Majspuffen]

Well, first and foremost, any Dalish elf will recognize you, because of your tatoos (unless... you don't have any?). And when I played as a dalish elf Leliana didn't ask me about the alienage. Sounds like you got yourself a mighty bug. My condolences.

[Zealuu]

That's one **** of a glitch. Hope I don't get it. In the interest of science, has anyone been able to reproduce it?

[OdinTGE]

I didn't use any AllCanLearn or respec mod, but I am using the mod that removes the starter talents when you create a character. Perhaps that did it

[DaeFaron]

Besides facial tattoos, there is no way for another clan of Dalish elves to know who you are, Unless your clan had met them before.

[Sloth Of Doom]

OdinTGE wrote...

I didn't use any AllCanLearn or respec mod, but I am using the mod that removes the starter talents when you create a character. Perhaps that did it

Yes, a lot of mods that mess with talents  are known to totally bugger up your game.

[daem3an]

OdinTGE wrote...

I didn't use any AllCanLearn or respec mod, but I am using the mod that removes the starter talents when you create a character. Perhaps that did it

Seems possible. This would really bug me. I like how the origin factors in to conversations and bits of the story here and there. It's a big part of the game, for me anyway.

[Selvec_Darkon]

It does something similar when you play a dwarf. Giving you conversation choices such as asking who the Paragons are, and how the dwarven caste system works. Esstinal basic information your dwarf should know.

[Endurium]

OdinTGE wrote...

Endurium wrote...

Only the elves in the Brecilian
Outskirts (different clan but Dalish) should recognize you right off.
Humans (Leliana) and dwarves most likely won't know the difference; to
them you're a knife-ear, doesn't matter where you came from. At least
your party members try to be polite, but you'll have to educate them on
the matter.

That's just the way it is in Ferelden (according to lore).

You're really, really not getting this.

Ok, I'll edit the first post to make this clear.

Thanks, that cleared it up a bit. Something must've occurred because:

- The game strongly suggests we apply a tattoo during CG (get a pop-up if you try starting the game w/o one)
- The tattoo identifies you with a Dalish clan. City elves have no such markings unless they come from a Dalish clan.

So you should be able to identify yourself properly when asked, or when it has an effect on the locals.

As has been stated, however, the game has it's share of bugs. Some players have them, some don't, some had to re-install to fix them. I've not experienced many of the bugs people report, but I have seen my share.