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[Optimus J]

jb1983 wrote...

Nykara wrote...

Stuff like this AT this point without giving bioware / EA a chance is only going to hurt any progress that might be made towards fixing things. Chances are it could all get caught up in red tape now.

This. 

While the guy has a case, I think in the longrun it hurts everyone. Now Bioware (and other gaming companies) will have to be careful about what they say or promise. It could be they want to go in one direction, talk about it, and then change directions. A disgruntled fan could then file on them to the FTC. It just hurts the situation more than it helps at this moment. 

Not quite. Have you read the EXTENSIVE discrepancies of what they compromised to deliver and what was delivered ABOUT THE ENDING?
http://social.biowar.../index/10056886

Notice that the case don't complain about the whole product, but only about the outcome. One parallel would be a spaghetti machine that mixes the ingredients right, but at the time to shape the pasta it makes a fusilli instead of the promissed spaghetti.

FTC will file that and demand that the last piece that is shaping the pasta to be replaced, and not order the recall of the WHOLE ingredient mixer altogether.

This case is the same. The last piece is making one otherwise fine device fail to deliver the intended outcome. That will not have that impact in the industry PER SE, but will have a HUGE IMPACT in advertising campaign.

Which is VERY VERY GOOD, since the whole problem is that Casey and Marc had this outcome all along and CHOSE to fool fans in thinking they were about to deliver something they NEVER intend to, just to boost pre-sales. If that NEVER, EVER happen again it will be too soon.


Let me trace a parallel on the other game I play: World of Warcraft. The developers there say they WANT to do a lot of things, they PLAN to deliver lots of stuff, then WAY BEFORE the date they set to have it ready, they inform us they scrapped all this stuff. You buy KNOWING it isn't there.

Bioware on the other hand, promised to deliver those stuff to the day they launched.We bought and still they didn't warned it was there. We found out it wasn't there, and all we receive is that "professional critics liked" and a trollface. When they HAD IT ALL ALONG it wasn't there to be delivered.

So, how can a company that anounces a plan, decide to not follow it, warn us about that BEFORE they launch the product can be affected by the precedent of punishment of a company that NEVER had the product they promised and still made their sales based on false advertising? The consequencas are WAY LESS dire than you people paint.

Modifié par Optimus J, 18 mars 2012 - 06:08 .

[augustburnt]

Why are people freaking out about this? Its your right as a consumer. Why do so many people not get that.

[nitefyre410]

Militarized wrote...

This again? It is not extreme *facepalm*.. you can put in a complaint to the FTC if you don't like the refrigerator you got from SEARS guys...usually nothing happens. It is noted and filed away until that model explodes with complaints. IT IS NOT LEGAL ACTION, it is just a complaint. You would need like, a consistent base of complaints of an actual illegal act (theft) coming from thousands and thousands of individuals.

This is a normal consumer tool being used properly, don't read so much into it.

 

^ listen to  this guy he knows what he is talking about... 

Filing a compliant with FTC is not legal action and nothing is going to come of it. 

[Peete]

I won't do it as I think it's a bit too far.

If he thinks differently he has every right to do so. I won't hinder him.

[joopark]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Militarized wrote...

This again? It is not extreme *facepalm*.. you can put in a complaint to the FTC if you don't like the refrigerator you got from SEARS guys...usually nothing happens. It is noted and filed away until that model explodes with complaints. IT IS NOT LEGAL ACTION, it is just a complaint. You would need like, a consistent base of complaints of an actual illegal act (theft) coming from thousands and thousands of individuals.

This is a normal consumer tool being used properly, don't read so much into it.

 

^ listen to  this guy he knows what he is talking about... 

Filing a compliant with FTC is not legal action and nothing is going to come of it. 

^This

People need to read this instead of reacting so negatively to it like 80% of the people in this thread

[Tovanus]

Militarized wrote...

This again? It is not extreme *facepalm*.. you can put in a complaint to the FTC if you don't like the refrigerator you got from SEARS guys...usually nothing happens. It is noted and filed away until that model explodes with complaints. IT IS NOT LEGAL ACTION, it is just a complaint. You would need like, a consistent base of complaints of an actual illegal act (theft) coming from thousands and thousands of individuals.

This is a normal consumer tool being used properly, don't read so much into it.

This is exactly the situation. The action the guy took was the definition of negligible. There's no reason to even take notice of the damn thing. People are acting like this was a complaint filed in court that Bioware's legal team will be charging their clients to dispose of. That's not the case. It just doesn't matter, and isn't even worth reporting. Angry fans have filed FTC complaints for things like this before in other games and mediums. It's not newsworthy. The only thing - the ONLY thing - that makes the Mass Effect 3 story newsworthy are the large scale things associated with it.

Polls in which tens of thousands of complaints are levied at Bioware. Charity drives getting tens of thousands of dollars. A fan reaction that has had the Bioware forums moving at a pace for a week (a good barometer of the high numbers of fans with discontent), with the vast majority of posts being about the disappointment over the ending. The brand name damage Bioware has suffered because of the ending fiasco (to a much lesser extent, including the fact that this fiasco came right on the heels of the Day 1 DLC fiasco). Really, nothing ought to be reported unless it's an action taken by Bioware or it reflects large numbers of people doing something.

[Carnage752]

That won't win him anything. We try to get good PR and an idiot does this.

[Ville L]

I wouldn't go that far, I liked the ME3 but the ending still sucks, but it's his/her right to do that.

[Carnage752]

Doesn't matter if it's just a complaint. Bioware and the press will take this incident and run with.

BRATTY PLAYERS SUE GAME STUDIO CUZ THEY NO LIKE GAME.

[Dark_Caduceus]

Oh no, somebody actually used a method of recourse specifically established for these sorts of scenarios, they went way too far this time. What next, will people start assembling and protesting things they don't like?

[errend]

augustburnt wrote...

Why are people freaking out about this? Its your right as a consumer. Why do so many people not get that.

because that many people are slave to corporation,simple