The happy ending doesn't matter to me, I want a coherent ending and one that reflects the decisions my Shep made. Those of us who want a new ending vary pretty greatly in what we want. If we get a new ending we can fracture into subdivisions and go to war with eachother over that.
The myth that people want a happier ending.
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#27
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:14
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I agree with the OP 100%
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A Mass Effect Fan
Sincerely,
A Mass Effect Fan
#28
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:14
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sadako wrote...
not a myth. I want my EPIC WIN and EPIC FAIL options.
Would have been nice. It'd be easier to really see the impact of what we had done and see the difference those war assets made, than getting three endings that were more or less "eh" on the victory scale.
#29
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:15
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I too would like an Epic Win option
I also want to romance Kasumi Goto but thats never going to happen
I also want to romance Kasumi Goto but thats never going to happen
#30
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:15
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Nageth wrote...
The myth is that you can lump up everyone into the same group. Some people want a happy ending. Some people want an ending that makes more sense. Some people want an ending that highlights your impact more. Some people want some sort of combo. Some people want icecream cone reapers.
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This is the problem with the whole new ending movement. A lot of us want a new ending, but really any ending they make won't satisfy the whole. Because there are too many people who want too many different things. Really, in the end, any new ending would probably not inculde a happy "blue babies" ending. It could, but more than likely it would still involve a lot of unhappiness.
The ending should be changed because there isn't closure, not because its not the ending people wanted IMO.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:15
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sgreco1970 wrote...
Darth_Ultima wrote...
So what I think needs to be discussed is what people expected and why what they got did not meet those expectations and possible solutions going foward to fix this.
if you got "what you expected" you'd be upset that it was too predictable.
That doesn't make sense - I expected an ending, if I'd gotten one I'd have been satisfied.
I don't sit down to a restaurant meal and then get upset because, "predictably", my food arrives just as ordered.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:16
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Nyctyris wrote...
That doesn't make sense - I expected an ending, if I'd gotten one I'd have been satisfied.
I don't sit down to a restaurant meal and then get upset because, "predictably", my food arrives just as ordered.
What's this? A Cheeseburger! I ordered a Cheeseburger!!!!
You were supposed to surprise me with random stuff you found on the kitchen floor!
/snark
#33
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:16
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Actually, most people are asking for a happy ending...As as option at least.
As is, the current ending is nihilistically grimdark.
As is, the current ending is nihilistically grimdark.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:17
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Throw my name into the hat for an epic win scenario, if you invested your time wisely and made all the correct decisions. I thought it worked fine for ME2 and see no reason that they should have changed things at the 11th hour.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:17
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Trobon18 wrote...
Nageth wrote...
The myth is that you can lump up everyone into the same group. Some people want a happy ending. Some people want an ending that makes more sense. Some people want an ending that highlights your impact more. Some people want some sort of combo. Some people want icecream cone reapers.
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This is the problem with the whole new ending movement. A lot of us want a new ending, but really any ending they make won't satisfy the whole. Because there are too many people who want too many different things. Really, in the end, any new ending would probably not inculde a happy "blue babies" ending. It could, but more than likely it would still involve a lot of unhappiness.
The ending should be changed because there isn't closure, not because its not the ending people wanted IMO.
I agree, that they shouldn't change it if the ending was actually coherent. But some people really do want that happy ending (and I doubt they'll ever get what they really want...have to say you guys are going to have to go read some fan fic, unfortunately).
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#36
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:17
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No myth here.
The more I think about it the more I wanted an ME2 style ending. Using the entire squad, choosing who does what. If you did everything right Shep and crew survive. I actually thought it be interesting if Earth itself was destroyed/sacrificed but the relays stay intact.
The more I think about it the more I wanted an ME2 style ending. Using the entire squad, choosing who does what. If you did everything right Shep and crew survive. I actually thought it be interesting if Earth itself was destroyed/sacrificed but the relays stay intact.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:18
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All I want is endings that make sense and the possibility of a happy ending.
Much like the ending of ME2, If you did everything right then everybody survived, if you didn't then some died and even you if you completely ignored it all.
Using the War assets would be great to do this, your choices through the game determines how much war asset you get and the war assets determine what end you have. Low assets means you'll likely to die and the reapers win, decent amount means you'll die but some of the team mates and fleet may survive, over the average means you survive, most of the team and a high portion of the fleet survives and a certain high amount of more means you'll survive, your team survives and the majority of the fleet survives.
Much like the ending of ME2, If you did everything right then everybody survived, if you didn't then some died and even you if you completely ignored it all.
Using the War assets would be great to do this, your choices through the game determines how much war asset you get and the war assets determine what end you have. Low assets means you'll likely to die and the reapers win, decent amount means you'll die but some of the team mates and fleet may survive, over the average means you survive, most of the team and a high portion of the fleet survives and a certain high amount of more means you'll survive, your team survives and the majority of the fleet survives.
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#38
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:19
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I think the longer this goes on, the BETTER the ending DLC will have to be to get back any good will.
#39
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:19
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It's not a complete myth. I want to build Tali her GD house.
But at the same time I want a bunch of different endings that AREN'T happy. The key is that we need the variety, not just one damn ending with tiny aspects changed!
But at the same time I want a bunch of different endings that AREN'T happy. The key is that we need the variety, not just one damn ending with tiny aspects changed!
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:19
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i absolutely want a happy ending but that's my opinion. the debate itself isn't about a happier ending for the sake of having a happy ending. it's about having an ending that makes sense and it's not without merit. a happier ending may mean simply an ending that makes sense for some and for others they want the super mega happy ending. personally i just want the ending that makes sense and yes i can ask for a happy ending but it won't kill me to have an ending that is actually bittersweet/self sacrificing or whatever so long as it makes sense! the happy/happier/happiest ending debate is irrelevant until the ending makes sense.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:19
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I want the endings to make sense and explain some things. I can understand lots of endings where Shep can die, I have no problem with that, the most important thing to me is an ending that makes sense. Anyway, if I could see my Shep alive and having children, why could it be a bad thing?
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:20
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I just want some SENSE what in the name of Shepard happen after ending and everything thing else ...
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:20
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If they could have both happy and sad endings to ME2, I think they can do it here. It's not out of the realm of possibility.
But if my Shepard has to die, and if the Normandy has to wind up on some alien world, I want it to make sense.
But if my Shepard has to die, and if the Normandy has to wind up on some alien world, I want it to make sense.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:21
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Yeah, I want a variety of endings. Happy and sad ones. I just want my choices to dictate which ending I get. And not my choice being made right at the end, I mean the choices I made over the trilogy.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:21
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T-Raks wrote...
I just want it to make sense.
This.
Though some UBER HAPPEH UNICORNS AND BUTTERFLIES ending would be silly. What would be the point of the Reapers? I mean really it would completely undermine such an epic enemy that has harvested all life for atleast 2 billion years. Shepard should be able to live obviously, but it should be hard to achieve. There will always be heavy losses when fighting this foe.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:21
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sgreco1970 wrote...
Darth_Ultima wrote...
So what I think needs to be discussed is what people expected and why what they got did not meet those expectations and possible solutions going foward to fix this.
if you got "what you expected" you'd be upset that it was too predictable.
Not really, you don't see this level of fan outrage at games with the potential for happy endings.
Yes, fans want a wide variety of endings, reflective of their choices in the three games and that includes a happy ending.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:22
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Taphia wrote...
i absolutely want a happy ending but that's my opinion. the debate itself isn't about a happier ending for the sake of having a happy ending. it's about having an ending that makes sense and it's not without merit. a happier ending may mean simply an ending that makes sense for some and for others they want the super mega happy ending. personally i just want the ending that makes sense and yes i can ask for a happy ending but it won't kill me to have an ending that is actually bittersweet/self sacrificing or whatever so long as it makes sense! the happy/happier/happiest ending debate is irrelevant until the ending makes sense.
I agree that the important thing is for it to make sense. But then, on the other hand, we can't insult those sites that say people want a happy ending if we are going to be sending mixed messages on that issue. We can't get all defensive about our position if our position is too cloudy.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:22
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I think it's that people want the full spectrum of endings. The three in existence may work fine as one set of endings? But there is no epic fail ending where the Reapers win, no epic win ending with Shepard planting a flag on a Reaper corpse. No in-between endings...just red, green, or blue?
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:23
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I want a happy ending as 1 of many DIFFERENT endings
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 08:24
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Welsh Inferno wrote...
T-Raks wrote...
I just want it to make sense.
This.
Though some UBER HAPPEH UNICORNS AND BUTTERFLIES ending would be silly. What would be the point of the Reapers? I mean really it would completely undermine such an epic enemy that has harvested all life for atleast 2 billion years. Shepard should be able to live obviously, but it should be hard to achieve. There will always be heavy losses when fighting this foe.
"Dead Reapers are how we win this" Adm. Hackett
