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[Balmung31]

Not a myth. Happy endings FTW.

People who criticize may politely **** themselves, because their opinions on MY opinions do not matter.

[Welsh Inferno]

Seryndras wrote...

Well, I thought there already was a lot of sacrifice. Friends died, planets got devestated, billions dead... so, why can't our epic space hero have his cake after all that hardship? Why can't the message be "You did it! Yes! You defeated all that evil and lived to tell the tale! Here's that ice cream! And all your friends are here too!"?

I don't get it why a hero has to die. Some reviewer on youtube said it best (forgot who, sorry!), "a hero has to anything" in a game like Mass Effect makes no sense.

Give me my happy ending if I work for it, and give me my total f**k up if I screwed up. I don't need videogames to make me think and bring me down, real life has more than enough of that in store for me.

Bolded part I said that should be possible in my post. 

Sacrifice was the theme throughout the whole game, there arn't many missions(sidemissions included) that someone doesn't die. Why should that theme be abandoned for the last and most risky mission?

[MadCat221]

I went in expecting a bittersweet ending, where a lot of people (including Shepard) would die.

What I got was a nonsensical downer ending where the backbone of the interstellar society in-universe is obliterated just for pretty space magic explosions, resulting in something even worse than a dark age.

[Dreogan]

I wouldn't mind a happy ending possibility, but that's completely missing the point. What we got simply didn't make sense.

It's well within Bioware's rights of creative domain to consciously say "no happy ending," but under terms of their "contract" with us (the writer-reader contract) they need to make that decision worth it. They need to sell that as a better option than sunshine and daisies.

[ChopyChopZ]

I just want the possibility to have a happy ending.

[Bantz]

i want a happy ending...

honestly though I think there should be an option to earn a happy ending. Being forced into depressed,dead shep is wrong imo.

[Dylionez]

I wanted an ending like that of Dragon Age: Origins'. Shepard could have died I would have been happy about it. But the fact that there's NOOOO positivity in the endings is what I don't like...

I don't know WHYYY people have the urge to stray away from and hate happy endings, saying they're "CLICHE". SAD and BAD endings are now more cliche than that of happy endings, with NUMEROUS movies taking the Deus Ex/Cliffhanger/MacGuffin path. What ever happened to the old "pat on the back" endings, instead of all of this: "REAL LIFE SUCKS AND IT'S TERRIBLE, GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD" bullocks...

[ItsFreakinJesus]

There's no happy ending for ME3, even if all crew members and Shepard survive. Planets are devastated, economies and militaries are in shambles. I wouldn't call that happy. All endings should be derived from that, all the way down to Shepard dying and destroying the Reapers (maybe even keep the low EMS ending where Shepard dies, kills the Reapers, and destroys the Relays) to the Reapers winning despite everything.

It's all about real endings, and less about Shepard and co lining up to get medals with Wrex and Grunt giving a simultaneous Krogan cheer with EDI and Joker making comments before the screen swipes to black and the credits roll.

[Subject M]

OP,  I do not understand what is going on with such posts? Why all this either this, either that?

Understand this:

We should be united in our wish for a ending that makes sense and reflects the goals our Shepards are fighting for as represented in the story. This means the possibility for different endings depending on how you have played your game. It should be able to result in a happy ending for those who wants it and it DOES involve the endings making sense and respecting the context of what is happening in the story. Given this, there can for example be no ending where Earth is un-ravaged by war, millions are not dead, or Mordin not dying, but there should be possibilities for survival, reunion with the survivors of your team and LI, and I think a possibility of avoiding destroying all the mass relays.

Modifié par Subject M, 17 mars 2012 - 08:53 .

[VonVerrikan]

We do want a happier ending, it's just one of the many things we deserve to have at the end of this, not just the -only- thing.

[Tom Jolly]

 +1     More exposition on the Catalyst and the three choices would be welcomed. But I do not want a "happy" ending.

Modifié par Tom Jolly, 17 mars 2012 - 08:49 .

[Murkman4683]

I am pretty sure I want to be happy after playing a game, even Dead Space has some what of a happy ending.

[Illum.se]

Darth_Ultima wrote...

There seems to be a lot of insinuation going around that people who want a new ending want it to be a happy ending.  Including a comic from penny arcade: penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/03/16

As far as I understand it people just want an ending that makes sense.  I for example was prepared to see more people die.  I was prepared that Shepard might have to sacrifice himself.  I was prepared for all that, what I wasn't prepared for was some godchild coming out of nowhere and saying that  everything I had done up to that point (creating an alliance with the Geth, treating EDI like she was a member of the crew) did not matter.  That's when Bioware lost me.  Then as people have stated before I see the Normandy running away which makes no sense and I see the Mass Relays exploding which contradicts the start of the game and the end of Arrival where it is established that a Relay being destroyed results in an explosion like a supernova, destroying the star system its in.  Which means Earth is doubly screw since it has the Charon relay and the Citadel in orbit which was established to be a giant mass relay.

So what I think needs to be discussed is what people expected and why what they got did not meet those expectations and possible solutions going foward to fix this.

I'm with you on this. I would have been fine with a dark ending as long as it wasn't so dumb. I wrote about how stupid the Crucible is, and the total woot effect of the final animations in another thread: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10063892/

[Lucky Thirteen]

I don't care for a happy ending, I just want something that makes sense. The ending just feels like it comes out of no where and belongs in some other story.

I think I would have been happier with a simple press a magic button and all the Reapers are destroyed over what the current ending is.

[2484Stryker]

Darth_Ultima wrote...

There seems to be a lot of insinuation going around that people who want a new ending want it to be a happy ending.  Including a comic from penny arcade: penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/03/16

As far as I understand it people just want an ending that makes sense.  I for example was prepared to see more people die.  I was prepared that Shepard might have to sacrifice himself.  I was prepared for all that, what I wasn't prepared for was some godchild coming out of nowhere and saying that  everything I had done up to that point (creating an alliance with the Geth, treating EDI like she was a member of the crew) did not matter.  That's when Bioware lost me.  Then as people have stated before I see the Normandy running away which makes no sense and I see the Mass Relays exploding which contradicts the start of the game and the end of Arrival where it is established that a Relay being destroyed results in an explosion like a supernova, destroying the star system its in.  Which means Earth is doubly screw since it has the Charon relay and the Citadel in orbit which was established to be a giant mass relay.

So what I think needs to be discussed is what people expected and why what they got did not meet those expectations and possible solutions going foward to fix this.

The myth should be worded like "whiney fans want only a single happy ending where no one dies.  All other possibilities should be thrown out"

The truth is, we want bleak endings, happy endings, sad endings, hopeful endings.  To put it concisely, we want multiple endings that make sense; some of them can be open to interpretations.

[captainbob8383]

It's not a myth. The vast majority of players want a happy ending. Just check the polls and billions message on this forum. Without any happy ending the journey just now feels void of sense, since in the end you'll lose, and no choice you've made, no relation you've had with characters will ever have any conclusions. Basically it makes the whole series wothless and tasteless. That's why most players cant even replay ME now.

The point is that we dont want only a happy ending, we want multiple endings, including happy ones.  Just you know, to have a choice, just like Bioware promised us.

Modifié par captainbob8383, 17 mars 2012 - 08:43 .

[Wikkr]

i was honestly expecting several different endings, a happy ending where shep and his LI go off and make a troop of babies be they human, blue or stuck in diving suits. I also expected an ending on the other end of the spectrum where the reaper forces kill each and every one of your crew and it ends with some other race digging up liaras time capsule 50k years later. in a game with such a vast spectrum offered one would expect that spectrum to be reflected in the end. what we got was no closure the story just stopped

[FSOAH]

I just want it to make sense.

[Ariq]

I believe that if the in-game ending made more sense and offered more satisfaction, there would be very little (though still some) clamour for a "happy ending". If the end had weight and meaning, yet was still bittersweet, I think most people would accept that. However, given the ending we have...most people are very unhappy, and some aren't even sure why they are so unhappy; most players aren't artists, writers, or lit majors. Most people just know what they like when they see it. 

We've been asked, by other players and by the devs, what we want in an ending though. So now everyone is analyzing, overanalyzing and reanalyzing the ends, the possible ends, what they think they wanted from an end. Sure, expressed in this way, many people do want a happy ending. Butterflies and rainbows and cake on the beach. That's the desire that can feed into a tragic ending: if we had no desire to see Shepard happy, then a downer ending wouldn't matter anyway. It's that we want to Shepard, Garrus, Tali, Joker, EDI, and the rest happy that gives moral gravity to the story. When sacrifice comes, it dang well better mean something because it strips us of a bit of that happy ending. Thane dies a noble death. Mordin atones for the genophage. Legion transcends the expectations. Those moments may be sacrifices but they have meaning. Robbed of meaning, the only 'good' ending for Shepard is a happy ending. The lack of closure, and the betrayal of purpose, is what feeds the posts asking for a happy ending.

Had they given us an ending that completed Shepard's heroic arc, that carried weight and purpose, that fulfilled the promise of ME, ME2, and ME3, and most people would have accepted that ending even if it was brutally tragic. Not everyone, mind you, but most. Now? Hard to say.

Modifié par Ariq, 17 mars 2012 - 08:44 .

[dallicant]

Ariq wrote...

...most players aren't artists, writers, or lit majors. Most people just know what they like when they see it..

And it seems like a decent number of the players who are those things are still dissatisfied with the ending!  But yes, these are good points.

[Mobius-Silent]

Personally I want more than one thing, in order of importance:

• I want it to makes sense (no god-child)
• I would like our choices to matter
• I would like the option of the relays surviving (I like the setting as-is, I'd like to see more of it, not have it nuked)
• I would like the option of a "happy" ending where you can stop the reapers without committing genocide (on non-reapers) and survive.
• I would like an epilogue with my LI if Shepard survives.

I may not get all of this, but the current state of the end is just pitiful. I'd say #1 and #2 need to be fixed, the rest I'd be happy to pay for.

What I really want is for the "Mass Effect Franchise" to be left in a state where I _want_ to buy more products, currently I can't even bring myself to buy anything from EA let alone Bioware or ME related.

Modifié par Mobius-Silent, 17 mars 2012 - 08:48 .

[merylisk]

I want the option for a happy ending. I also want an ending with lots of heroic sacrifice. It would be cool if your squad members/various races you recruited would live or die depending on choices you make in the endgame, similar to ME2.

[Mara Shep]

I want a happy ending - OPTIONAL of course, not "IT MUST HAPPEN!" You should have to work for it, high EMS, joining the galaxy, full renegade or paragon, etc. Of course I want to be able to be united with my LI and see what happens to my squad. I worked hard on the relationships too!

[Jenga136]

For a trilogy that prides itself on options, a full happy ending option would be great because it creates variety. But we weren't given the possibilities of choice in our final moments. Which means BW could create a solution as DLC, or a DLC and bridged to a mini game sort of like DA:O and DA:A that explains, and more so explores what happened on the Citadel.

And for the record: I always figured my Shepard was lactose intolerant. She'd never want the reapers to be made out of ice cream.

[Conduit0]

The real myth is that people will be happy if Bioware rewrites the ending, If the BSN has taught me anything, its that no matter what BW does to appease the fans at this point, there will be a significant and very loud portion of the community pissed off because they didn't get exactly what they wanted.