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Thatguyky

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dallicant wrote...

I think a happy ending should be an option, but not the only one. Your actions should have consequences which may or may not result in the cheeriest possible outcome.


^ This. 

I want the option for a happy ending to be there. Make it a pain in the butt to get I'm fine with that. I'm okay with some sacrifices having to be made. Is it to much to ask for to have an ending without plotholes and a potential happy ending where Shepard makes it out alive with his/her LI and squadmates?

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sadako wrote...

not a myth. I want my EPIC WIN and EPIC FAIL options.



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FoxShadowblade

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I want a happy ending. I'd begrudgingly accept an ending that made sense.

So not a myth, some of us do want rainbows and turian-human babies.

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While I think everyone wants an ending that makes sense, I myself, and many others, would LOVE a happy ending. I didn't invest myself in this universe just to see Shep die in every ending, with no choice or argument in the matter at all.

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I want an ending that makes sense and doesn't betray the spirit of Mass Effect. If it's happy then that's just a bonus but not a requirement at all.

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mikelope wrote...

I'm new here. Is there a thread or a website which states what the retakers specifically want for an ending? It doesn't have to be a manifesto or anything, but is there a consensus or at least majority of what exactly the demands are?


Go to their Facebook page.  I think they have a very concise list there.

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Mbednar wrote...

mikelope wrote...

I'm new here. Is there a thread or a website which states what the retakers specifically want for an ending? It doesn't have to be a manifesto or anything, but is there a consensus or at least majority of what exactly the demands are?


Go to their Facebook page.  I think they have a very concise list there.


Thank you.

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Its not a myth. We would like to have a happy ending but an ending which would make sense would still be good.

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Dreogan wrote...

I wouldn't mind a happy ending possibility, but that's completely missing the point. What we got simply didn't make sense.

It's well within Bioware's rights of creative domain to consciously say "no happy ending," but under terms of their "contract" with us (the writer-reader contract) they need to make that decision worth it. They need to sell that as a better option than sunshine and daisies.


Yes. Well said.  I simply want multiple distinct endings coherently tied to the rest of the story.

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Mbednar

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Not a myth.

Should at least be an option.

Not looking for a Penny Arcade Ending (They can go to Heck)

Ending where Shepard saves the galaxy against all odds has been the theme of the game for years.

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I was promised a "bittersweet"ending all I got was a "bitter" ending.

Honestly If joker and Edi and for someone reason the rest of your squadies crash landed on Earth insted of some random world, then I would have had a better time dealing with the ending. Because unless you do the Syth ending that just lets alot of people die...

Plus the MASSIVE plothole of the leader of the Reapers being part of the Citadel... I mean "WTF!!!" seriously... then why did Sovereign need to get the Citadel to open the relay to Darkspace... That is the biggest hugest plothole there is. It pretty much makes everything that happens a big "WTF" moment... It doesnt even make it into "Fridge logic" territory

And with the destory ending pretty much brings everyone back to the iron age. And unless the device changes the laws of physics it really isn't an answer to anything, because quantum computing (which is the main means as to how AI's work) wont stop anyone from making a new AI.

Also because this whole game is now about AI vs Orgainc. The very fact you can broker peace with the Geth. Can make the whole arugement with the Starchild completely scripted. Can't even talk back to teh damn thing. Maybe you can't bring peace between organics and Syntics But i HAVE and DID. so stfu and stop the reapers and only the reapers. the war is over. Your "chaos" is over.

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SandTrout wrote...

It's not a myth that some people want a happier ending.

The myth is that the lack of the happy ending is the primary motivation for our discontent. Even most of those who want a 'happier' ending have stated explicitly that they would be OK as long as the ending made more sense, provided closure, and wasn't so horribly out of place and jarring.



This basicaly.

And, well, really, Shepard surviving along with her/his loved one and some friends, is hardly a happy ending anyway, there's so much destruction and death already. As others have said, it's a bittersweet ending at best!

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uh I want one or at least the goddamn option to have one

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I want a happier or happy ending, but I also want bioware to make me work for it as I and many of my friends expected to happen. We all expected 16 ending for epic fail being 1 and everything from bittersweet to okay to good and epic win to be the other 15. We expected that the better your EMS, the more you play, the" better" ( better being a mix of paragon and renegade) decisions you made the better your ending.. not choose green or blue to win :wizard:. At the moment the only ending that is greatly affected by your EMS is destruction, and even then it makes no sense.....

Modifié par Kungfu Nando, 27 mars 2012 - 12:34 .


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Your actions should be taken into account especially in a game that is supposed to be about choice. People should have a choice of "ending's" happy or sad .Everyone is different and played the game differently.the game should reflect that.
If someone has spent time emotionally invested in the series and watched there character grow and develop, they should finish it in any way they choose. Bare in mind also a happy ending is still going to be "bitter sweet" especially considering the friends and allies lost along the way.

Modifié par Nicky 192, 27 mars 2012 - 12:50 .


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I'd like a happier ending.

I don't see why I can't get a happy ending that's also full of closure. I mean if they're going to expand on the current endings or add new ones they may as well make at least one of them happy.

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Thatguyky wrote...

dallicant wrote...

I think a happy ending should be an option, but not the only one. Your actions should have consequences which may or may not result in the cheeriest possible outcome.


^ This. 

I want the option for a happy ending to be there. Make it a pain in the butt to get I'm fine with that. I'm okay with some sacrifices having to be made. Is it to much to ask for to have an ending without plotholes and a potential happy ending where Shepard makes it out alive with his/her LI and squadmates?


To expand upon this, in a game that was supposedly all about player choice and how it matters in terms of interactivity with the story and what unfolds, I honestly expected and *GASP* felt ENTITLED to be able to have at least somewhat of a happy ending considering every choice I made in 1, 2 and 3 was Paragon. I had well over 5000 assets as well. Then to find out by some Diabolus Ex Machina at the end of the game that the Paragon option was to kill yourself and control the Reapers, the neutral option was to kill yourself and use space magic to synthesize all organic and synthethic life together which betrays one of the main themes of the series and the Renegade option was to kill yourself and destroy all synthetic life just...depressed me. There should be an option of course to get a bad and "bittersweet" ending as well but only if you screw up a lot. Hell, you should be able to get a happy Renegade ending too; it'll just have a lot more dead characters and sacrifices in it.

Also, when the Citadel and Crucible were thought up by this Catalyst millions of years ago, why wasn't the Citadel programmed to destroy just the Reapers? How could the Catalyst possibly predict that all synthetic life would always rebel against organics forever? Shepard could have proven him wrong, especially in a Paragon ending, since he was the first organic to speak to him. If that didn't work, why couldn't the Crucible/Citadel be influenced by Shepard to just destroy the Reapers using the code fragments he discovered in the Geth hivemind? But anyway...enough about the endings we got.

The option for 16 TRULY different endings based on ALL the choices we made should have been available but at the end of the day, we got three cookie cutter ones that just had different colors, the Mass Relays destroyed, Shepard dying (except for one possible one) and maybe have EDI alive.

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brusher225

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It's not a myth. I would like a happy ending. Might I add again, it should be inherant in a game where your choices reflect your future experiences that if you make all the right choices you get to live.

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I think the real myth is that there are people out there that honestly prefer the endings we got to anything else. I think people that defend them are only doing so on some principle.

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 While a happy ending is always nice; having my sheps retire with their respective LI would be cool. However it is more important for me that the ending makes sense. Also I want to see what the results of my actions had on the Galaxy. 

Blowing everything to hell with different colored explosions and leaving it at that doesn't cut it. 

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I'd like a happy ending but a good but sad ending is good too. Not some space magic bullsh*t.

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I know a lot of people do want a happy ending, but I'm definitely in the category of just wanting an ending that maintained the consistency of the universe and characters (or at least one of the two).

Honestly, I'm in the small camp that wanted a more painful ending. I wanted the entire London scene to be a long suicide mission where you sacrifice war assets and teammates in the fight to reach the citadel. I wanted it to be hard and painful and keep ratcheting up the stakes to that final moment. And that final moment, I honestly wanted to be the hardest choice in the game (and not in the sense of the pain of this ending). I hoped that the stakes of the sacrifice required to defeat the reapers would make the option to let them win and toss it to the next cycle a tempting one.

Modifié par lnccplbunbun, 27 mars 2012 - 01:20 .


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Kungfu Nando

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I think the general consensus is that we WANT a happy ending... we NEED a coherent ending

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Kungfu Nando wrote...

I think the general consensus is that we WANT a happy ending... we NEED a coherent ending



And chice don't forget choice to have a happy ending aswell as a very sad one (reapers win)

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I would perfer the choice of a happy ending but i would rather it make sense.