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[BULLETWASTER]

What's wrong with adding options for gay people? I think this was a smart decision to have new characters because Garrus and Tali are already straight it would be weird to make them suddenly bi.

[Harbinger of Hope]

Seems to me that the relationships are all handled pretty poorly. I think the last, good, BioWare game that had good relationships was DA:O.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

I'm bi and I liked it was there, OP. I didn't even romance him.

They gave you more _options_, they didn't take anything away.

[frankiehorrigan]

I wouldn't mind them if they were unique characters visually rather than 2 generic characters you could whip up in the character generator. They're lazy.

[Rune-Chan]

I bet you wouldn't have said that if they were both straight.

[Arthorius]

Never romanced any human/don't give a cr*p.

[RavenEyry]

I prefer minor but well developed characters to retconning existing characters. (Kaiden anyone?)

[WQFNHJNHNFNFNFBFNFN]

Anything that led to less Jacob in my game is a-ok in my book. If only he could have been with Kaiden on Vermire...

[Lawliet89]

Justin2k wrote...

Lawliet89 wrote...

You could have just not talked to Steve right?

Sure I could have.  But then I'd miss out on a lot, because he got a lot of scenes. 

I have nothing against him, but is there anyone, and I'm including gay people in on this, who wanted this time spent on Steve if they had an option of it being spent on another character already in the series?

Could you give examples of how other characters were shortchanged? I don't recall any major characeters being developed any less than they deserve.

[Almostfaceman]

This is not an issue. At all. Bioware gave fans what they wanted. It's not something I'm interested in, but that's the beauty of it, they appealed to a wide audience and did it really well.

[LordSlavius]

Anyone who wants an option to "disable gay relationships" needs a reality check. Grow up.

[omgBAMF]

Justin2k wrote...

Lawliet89 wrote...

You could have just not talked to Steve right?

Sure I could have.  But then I'd miss out on a lot, because he got a lot of scenes. 

I have nothing against him, but is there anyone, and I'm including gay people in on this, who wanted this time spent on Steve if they had an option of it being spent on another character already in the series?

Um, me... and I'm not even gay.  I thought it was nice that I could bring back his will to live, and he thanked me by buying me a drink as I watched the strippers.  Besides I like having the friendly shooting competition with Garrus much more than just sitting in a bar with him.

[ColloquialAnachron]

I thought Traynor was better done than Cortez. Either way though, while both felt tacked on, neither felt as out of place or "whaaaat?" inducing as Allers. Let's just say none of the characters we've met up to this point were gay/lesbian...we've met at least two reporters. My mind has been boggled by this much more than some hastily tacked on same-sex romance options.

Modifié par Harthouse, 17 mars 2012 - 08:13 .

[Militarized]

I think the bigger issue is they wasted development time on that steroid pumped meathead Vega. That is far more insulting to me then adding in another layer of role playing for people. Why not just replace him with your LI or a squad member everyone liked? Like Grunt? If you really want the meathead perspective just take Grunt.

[Lonsecia]

Well, same sex romance was in the first game if you played as FemShep... Well, in a manner of speaking. Liara's certainly more feminine than masculine. I kinda agree that they shouldn't have bothered with Steve and Traynor as love interests, but not because of them being gay, rather that they aren't part of the squad you spend so much time with. My FemShep would prefer Tali over most others as it is, and so that was more of a grievance.

On a side note, I did actually like both gay LI's as characters, and Steve was incredibly likable in my playthrough (Basically trying to find closure for the death of his husband - the scene at the memorial wall was done very well). Traynor was perhaps more traditionally a stereotype as she seemed to flirt with every female crew member, though having said that, EDI and the newslady also seemed to flirt a -lot- with other women.

[robbyiscool]

But I'm sure the ****ty reporter was a great character and totally added to the series.

[Chun Hei]

Of course this discounts the many "straight" players who play "gay" Shepards. There are lots of straight guys who admit to playing lesbians Shepards and quite a few female gamers have said they play all persuasions.

The best way to solve your problem is to go the DA2 route. Make all the LIs "bi" or pansexual and then let the player choose if they want to have a friendship or romance with them. Going back over the years of the s/s threads you can see that what most of the s/s players wanted was a s/s relationship with established LIs not the creation of whole new ones.

[detroitmechworks]

They alienated more people with the endings than with anything else in the game.

[GoblinSapper]

There isn't enough facepalm. Reported, moving on

[Wesley Wyndam Price]

What is it with the homophobic threads today?

[Harbinger of Hope]

RavenEyry wrote...

I prefer minor but well developed characters to retconning existing characters. (Kaiden anyone?)

I actually always assumed him and Ash were Bi. They had these lines of dialogue in ME1 that felt like they were flirting, regardless of your gender. But, then for some reason Ash isn't Bi in ME3, but Kaiden is. Which is like "Double standard much?"

[frankiehorrigan]

Harthouse wrote...

I thought Traynor was better done than Cortez. Either way though, while both felt tacked on, neither felt as out of place or "whaaaat?" inducing as Allers. Let's just say none of the characters we've met up to this point were gay/lesbian...we've met at least two reporters. My mind has been boggled by this much more than some hastily tacked on same-sex romance options.

Exactly, some tarted up IGN employee is a fully fleshed out (albeit terrifying looking) unique character and two love interests in the game are random character generator specials?  Lame.

[Slash1667]

Even though I though she was entertaining the only character they wasted time on was Diane Allers. Traynnor and Cortez I actually liked. Sexual diversity is a good thing. BTW why the complaints about them but not the inter-species romances garrus/tali or even further out Joker/EDI or the bi-sexual romances with Liara?

[fish of doom]

because having lesbian sex with liara in ME1 TOTALLY was not a gay relationship. yeeeeaaahhh...

*facepalm*

homophobia amuses me greatly. usually right before the homicidal rage.

[BDelacroix]

None of it matters. Busy saving universe. Any perceived signals you pick up on your part are just that. Perceived and not real.

Now, where do I find the next bad guy?