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[paralitos]

gay relationships were fine... move on

[robbyiscool]

While people complain about Kaidan being retconned into bisexual and how it isn't fair, lets not forget that in EVERY game there has been some sort of Lesbianism (its a word, I swear), yet not until ME3 was a man allowed to be gay.

ME1 - Liara (who is treated as a woman, since, well, look at her)
ME2- Kelly Chambers gives lap dances regardless of gender, no man does that.

[DashRunner92]

I didn't mind it. I thought Steve and Traynor were great characters. I liked Traynor more than Kelly Chambers, I just wished they gave her a bit more dialogue rather than that 1 chess game. Didn't appreciate the fact that Steve just got over mourning his husband and suddenly starts hitting on Shepard though

Modifié par DashRunner92, 17 mars 2012 - 08:28 .

[Harbinger of Hope]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

WarChicken78 wrote...

fropas wrote...

Multi-player was a waste. . .Gay people need love too.

Can't agree here. I like the Multiplayer.
But the second statement is definitely true. Gays have to endure enough hate in RL thanks to people like the OP.
I'm glad Bioware thought of them in ME3.

I also like MP. Also, I endure very very little hate IRL. Cause the majority of my country isn't stuck in the nineteenth century.

And where is that? Because if your reference was about America, I would have to respectfully disagree. We, as a country, have been making great strides against bigots over the years. I think, within another 20 years, being Gay or Bi won't even be a topic. No one will care.

[pb1285n]

Justin2k wrote...

I hate to say I told you so...

As there was a growing "we are gay and we want gay shepard!!" campaign since ME1, i consistently said the exact same thing. 

Which was while I have nothing against gay people, shoehorning in gay relationships to a series that is already established, is just going to take time and energy away from characters we love.

So what do we get?  Playing chess with some girl who just got shoehorned into the game.  How many more of you (gay people included) would prefer to see Shepard playing Quarian chess with Tali?  Wait, is that 99% of the playerbase with their hands up?

Same, drinks with "Steve".  How many more of you would prefer to see Shepard propping up the bar with Garrus?  Is that even more of you?

This was a waste of time, put in to appease a small minority of whining fans.  As such we got LESS Ashley.  We got LESS jacob.  We got LESS miranda. 

Sorry, but it's true.  "Steve" probably got more screen time than almost anybody, to appease the people with their "gays in space" banners, and thats a shame.  I think the Jacob and Thane fans would have rather the programming time spent on them.

The same could be said for James and Allers. In fact the same could be said about the new characters in Mass Effect 2. Why did they waste time with Jacob, instead of putting in Kaidan or Wrex? You are purposely picking on the gay characters, why is that?

[BatmanPWNS]

They just made Samantha for the lolz. Does Samantha even get you the achievement?

[Dylionez]

I thought finally having a homosexual (nonetheless two) in a video game was very cool. It's territory developers RARELY ever travel. I admire them for it

[xtorma]

recentio wrote...

I didn't romance Steve yet I enjoyed his storyline. He enriched my experience of the game.
Chobot on the other hand...  There's a questionable investment of development resources.

The hate for chobot is no different than the hate for steve, it's all hate. The only difference is the label you put on it.

[k177sh0t]

Should've retained the ME2 squaddies and programmed them to fit everyones fantasies rather than intsert uninteresting characters

[Slash1667]

Korhiann wrote...

Personally I think Bioware is focusing too much on romances in general, but might just be because I don't really think having romances in a setting where everything is on the line is a really good idea.
I think they handeld Steve well enough i.e. making it natural instead of "forced".

People need to let off steam....and gunpowder therapy isn't always appropriate

[Chun Hei]

Darthlawsuit wrote...

[Snip of the stupid.]

Because children were such a major part of the ME series and ALL the "straight" Shepard romances were geared toward procreation.

Modifié par Chun Hei, 17 mars 2012 - 08:29 .

[Twizz089]

As a straight male, I like both Traynor and Cortaz. On one of my play throughs Traynor rejected me and I loved it lol.

OP change Traynor and Cortaz to multiplayer and kinect and I think 75% of the people on here would agree with your points.

Modifié par Twizz089, 17 mars 2012 - 08:30 .

[Taphia]

this entire debate doesn't matter because there was a lacking in equality. where is jack/miranda/tali romance for fem shep? where's the lesbian equality? i'd romance jack as fem shep and def tali because she's awesome. but no no.. no lesbian equality.

personally i think it's great that ME has taken any action on the issue. if the game is about anything it's about three choices that didn't matter in the ending. gay/straight/bi right? or is it green blue or red? hmmm i'm getting my grievances confused aren't i?

ok i'm done being sarcastic. i think the sexuality options for me3 were great and i'm glad kaidan came out of the closet. aside from the ending of ME3 the games really presented a message of unity/tolerance one way or another. ashley has her xenophobia, garrus vs tali in me 1, krogans vs salarians for the genophage, krogans vs turians, geth vs quarians, organics vs synthetics.... you get the point. it's just another layer of promoting tolerance and should be taken as such in my opinion. but it is just my opinion.

[Shared]

To be honest i like that they include it. Even thaught the characters where ok (bette then vega).

[MACharlie1]

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

PresidentCowboy wrote...

WarChicken78 wrote...

fropas wrote...

Multi-player was a waste. . .Gay people need love too.

Can't agree here. I like the Multiplayer.
But the second statement is definitely true. Gays have to endure enough hate in RL thanks to people like the OP.
I'm glad Bioware thought of them in ME3.

I also like MP. Also, I endure very very little hate IRL. Cause the majority of my country isn't stuck in the nineteenth century.

And where is that? Because if your reference was about America, I would have to respectfully disagree. We, as a country, have been making great strides against bigots over the years. I think, within another 20 years, being Gay or Bi won't even be a topic. No one will care.

I wish what you say is true...however I have a feeling it will turn into another token minority thing. It's been how many years since Civil Rights act and we're still harping on the race issue? And it's not that it's all bad. Personally, I find:

"Nation Elects First Black President" as offensive as any negative sterotype. 

[WarChicken78]

Darthlawsuit wrote...

AAaahahaha, now somebody please link the Family guy scene where Peter tries to breastfeed Stewie.

[M.D]

>Gay relationships
>Proper ending

Pick one

[recentio]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

They just made Samantha for the lolz. Does Samantha even get you the achievement?

Yes. :innocent:

[yuncas]

I liked Traynor but she didn't any of what I had so we were friends. I liked Steve but I didn't want what he was offering so we stayed bros. Why is it so much of a problem I keep asking myself to be inclusive towards one segment of customers that were legitimately neglected in two previous games? You get your piece of the pie, why not them also?

[jlb524]

Justin2k wrote...
Which was while I have nothing against gay people, shoehorning in gay relationships to a series that is already established, is just going to take time and energy away from characters we love.
 

Yeah, anything they did with any character that wasn't Liara was a waste.  She should have been the only squad member.

[Harbinger of Hope]

I love the fact that when people have a heated debate about filing a complaint with the FTC, the mods jump all over it. But when some bigot makes a topic stating that if they didn't "waste" dev resources on gay relationships, the thread stays open.

[agathokakological]

I appreciate Bioware taking the time to open up more same-sex options for romances. I think having these options available to the player makes for a much more varied game experience, which is wonderful. However, the new options (specifically Cortez and Traynor) were written very poorly and were very forgettable. I had no commitment to having Cortez on my crew in this game, which is supposed to be the great finale, let alone to consider him as a romance option.

I feel like they should have spent more time fleshing out these characters, or dropped the whole thing to give us a better ending.

[Keldon Northwind]

This is a major issue now? I don't even...

[Baronesa]

k177sh0t wrote...

Should've retained the ME2 squaddies and programmed them to fit everyones fantasies rather than intsert uninteresting characters

Well... in Jack's backstory she clearly  says she had bisexual relationships... a bit strange that she was not open for romance with Femshep on ME2.


But I loved Cortez and Traynor, they were interesting characters.