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juniormiz

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Dusty Everman wrote...

CptData wrote...

Glad they fixed Ken & Gabby 'though never saw it in my first playthrough. Was too late, I guess.
However, I wonder if BW also fixed Ashley's dialogue bugs as well.


As far as I know, there is no dialog bugs related to Ashley.  Ashley just doesn't have much dialog on the Normandy.  Each squad mate had a line count budget.  Though Ashley has the same budget as Kaidan, the writer for Ashley decided to use the budget more on the Citadel than the Normandy, so she doesn't have as much to say between missions, but she has more to say during her Citadel moments.



When I loaded up my file to play the EC, Engineering was the first place I went in order to see if this has been fixed :o (avoided boards due to potential spoilers).  Thank you for following through on this! Also, the explanation for Ashley's relative silence on board now makes sense...thank you for clarifying that as well.:happy:

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@Dusty Everman

Well, the idea Ash got bugged dialogue has to do with Ken/Gabby bugged dialogue. Especially since there are a lot of Ashley-lines available in the file structure not used in the game. I know you guys don't allow any discussion about the leaked script here - but some of those lines got recorded. Why got they scrapped? Why got Ashley a third less content than Kaidan?

That gave me the idea Ash got bugged dialogue. It's kinda a shame BW didn't use this opportunity to set things right. Seriously, guys - Ash has as many fans as Kaidan, we're even allied as the "VS fandom". Why no justice for one half?

Sorry for light rant.

Uhh ... one more thing.
It's kinda odd since Ashley's lines got recorded AND Kaidan has one more scene AND more dialogue lines as well ... it simply doesn't make sense not using already recorded stuff. Doing new stuff - that's okay, makes no sense, but it's already there. Why not using it?

BTW is it me or got Kaidan and Ashley TOGETHER the same budget as Garrus alone? :blink:

Again sorry for rant.
I'm glat I can hook up Ken & Gabby now. At least that.

Modifié par CptData, 27 juin 2012 - 03:51 .


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Woah! They fixed Ken & Gabby bug? Nice!

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Dusty Everman wrote...

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Yeah, did this fix make the Extended Cut? It is the only bug in the game that bugs me, other than the face import one but that was fixed. Well, that and the MP exclusive guns...


The Ken/Gabby, Tali/Garrus bug should be fixed now in EC.  Depending on the save game you use, you might have to complete a mission before any banter happens in engineering, but it should now behave as designed.

Was racing for new ending but caught a bit of it, will replay later. I just wanted to say thanks to you and team for fix Ken and Gabby are favourites of mine, thanks for sticking it out to get it back in.

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If you run out of missions, how are you supposed to continue the Ken/Gabby banter?

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Dusty Everman wrote...

CptData wrote...

Glad they fixed Ken & Gabby 'though never saw it in my first playthrough. Was too late, I guess.
However, I wonder if BW also fixed Ashley's dialogue bugs as well.


As far as I know, there is no dialog bugs related to Ashley.  Ashley just doesn't have much dialog on the Normandy.  Each squad mate had a line count budget.  Though Ashley has the same budget as Kaidan, the writer for Ashley decided to use the budget more on the Citadel than the Normandy, so she doesn't have as much to say between missions, but she has more to say during her Citadel moments.


Oh....Well was kinda looking forward to more LI interactions on the Normandy. Kinda sad how the VS got Zaeed treatment, while Javik (A DLC character) got more....

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Dusty Everman wrote...

CptData wrote...

Glad they fixed Ken & Gabby 'though never saw it in my first playthrough. Was too late, I guess.
However, I wonder if BW also fixed Ashley's dialogue bugs as well.


As far as I know, there is no dialog bugs related to Ashley.  Ashley just doesn't have much dialog on the Normandy.  Each squad mate had a line count budget.  Though Ashley has the same budget as Kaidan, the writer for Ashley decided to use the budget more on the Citadel than the Normandy, so she doesn't have as much to say between missions, but she has more to say during her Citadel moments.


Engineer Adams and Ashley are Suppose to Talk After Thessia and Before Horizon. I have never seen this Conversation. Was this Scene Cut from the game? The Strategy Guide says it's suppose to happen.

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Dialogue bug wasn't limited to just Ashley. I had Kaidan, and had the same issue of not getting Ken and Gab banter until after the EC.

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So, was all bugged Dialog in engineering fixed with EC?

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Depends on what bugged dialogues you think there are.

The banter trigger is fixed. All the ambient conversations with Adams and Ken and Gabby, as well as Tali chatting over the comms to various people on the ship, should fire now when Kaidan is alive or when you're not friends with Ashley and you enter engineering after completing a mission.

Modifié par devSin, 03 juillet 2012 - 05:46 .


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Dusty Everman wrote...

As far as I know, there is no dialog bugs related to Ashley.  Ashley just doesn't have much dialog on the Normandy.  Each squad mate had a line count budget.  Though Ashley has the same budget as Kaidan, the writer for Ashley decided to use the budget more on the Citadel than the Normandy, so she doesn't have as much to say between missions, but she has more to say during her Citadel moments.

If you ever come back here, Dusty, there are a couple Kaidan bugs that I'm not sure are on the list.

When getting the message that Kaidan is going to be made a Spectre, there's supposed to be a range of dialogue with Udina (in the embassy) depending on how you've learned of it (there's flags for the email or Kaidan having already told you or simply not knowing about it). If you go speak to Kaidan (in the hospital) and he tells you that he's being made a Spectre, when you go speak to Udina, the only conversation you get is the one that acts like you don't know. It works as expected for Ashley (you get to tell Udina that she already told you), though, and it looks like they're supposed to be using the same flags here.

After Kaidan returns to the Normandy, if you do too much on the crew deck before speaking to him, his first friendship conversation (about hearing from his mom) can be skipped entirely. A common way to trigger this is in the dialogue with Chakwas (right after the coup, she wants to talk with you about medical supplies and starts a normal cutscene conversation)—after talking to her, if you then go to the observation deck and "click" on Kaidan, no conversation runs (the conversation that's supposed to fire doesn't actually start). If you "click" him again, he starts running his banter lines (as if the skipped conversation had concluded successfully). If this happens, that conversation will never trigger again; if you reload the area before talking with Kaidan (by using the elevator to change levels and then come back), however, then the conversation will start normally.

Finally, if you guys ever end up having to include the shuttle bay in future content, please give the dog some sound effects. He's so lifeless and sad. :(

Modifié par devSin, 21 juillet 2012 - 03:19 .


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darthnick427 wrote...

I totally got them together. Just support Gabby in a little argument they have and go down to where Jack used to hang out 1 mission later and you'll catch them in the act. lol


I did that and it never happens for me. Boo... <_<

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Yeah, I haven't seen Ken and Gabby get together yet, although it was interesting to see Tali and Garrus dancing around each other in their conversations over the comms.

Modifié par devSin, 24 juillet 2012 - 01:00 .


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devSin wrote...

If you ever come back here, Dusty, there are a couple Kaidan bugs that I'm not sure are on the list.

I forgot to mention a minor gameplay/interface issue (on PC) that's annoying:

When Kaidan detonates his Barrier power (you force him to "use" it while it's already active), although all his powers go into cooldown, the indicator on the last-used power icon usually doesn't reflect the cooldown (it's drawn normally, so it looks like his powers are available, but if you open up the power wheel, you can see they're all in cooldown and unavailable for use). (It may also occur for James and EDI, with their armor powers, but I don't remember experiencing it in the game.)

Anyway, since I already spammed Kaidan issues here. It's just annoying to open up the squad bar (by pausing with the Shift key) every two seconds to see if his cooldown has finally ended (it turns into a long stream of pause-play-pause until his powers are ready again).

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A lot of the stuff people are saying got cut isn't cut. I've heard Ken talk about a ton of the female crew members to antagonize Gabby. They have lots of conversations when you go down there. Plus after the Horizon mission they get into an argument where Gabby is upset he never talks about her and he's saying they should be focused on the mission. You can then support Gabby and let Ken know that they should go ahead and get together because they might not have another chance.

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^ All of which was inaccessible to players who saved Kaidan or who's Shepards were on bad terms with Ashley, until the Extended Cut came out and fixed the Engineering dialogue bug.

Modifié par AVPen, 20 août 2012 - 01:04 .