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[Vertigo_1]

It worked for me, changed the integers and loaded a save.
Went to Engineering and I just got one of those support X or Y conversations going between Ken and Donnelly

Thanks Para!

EDIT: and oh yeah, I have Kaidan alive btw

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 03 avril 2012 - 12:47 .

[Sepratard]

Noob question here

But if i were to, say. edit my last save. the saves beneath that would not be affected, correct?

Also, will this affect saves on new playtroughs? (i assume it wont but id just like to make sure, in case something does go wrong i want something to fall back on )



EDIT:
well just tested everything and it seems to be working just fine, kaidan acting completely normal, ashley still on the memorial thingie etc. 
i can finally pop back into engineering after missions for a few laughs. 

thank you verry much for posting this Parasitex.

If i run into anny weird glitches ill post them.

Modifié par Sepratard, 03 avril 2012 - 02:04 .

[ParasiteX]

As long as Ashley is dead, it should not cause any hitches that ive seen.
Ken and Gabby will chat as normal, and even romance each other. And Tali and Garrus will chat and romance as well.
And it shouldn't affect any other char as those 2 integers are specific for Ashleys romance and friendship.

But with Ashley alive, it may cause problems with her dialogue. Most likely some scenes will pop up too early im guessing, or not at all.
Ill probably get around to testing it with her alive.

[tigrina]

If Ashley is alive, you can get the banter anyway if you just talk with her enough? (Ie. in that case there is no/less need for a fix.)

Anyway, thanks a lot ParasiteX! Going to try that fix in my non-Ashley run(s)

/much appreciated

[Dendio1]

I went down there just before priority earth and the conversation started. I was pleasantly surprised !
I didnt do anything special. Altered no files...just happened down there

O and I did not know about the gift giving to ashely. I didnt take her on a lot of missions either. I made sure to talk to her like everyone else...did the citadel date but didnt do the romance. I paragoned my way out of the udina fiasco

Modifié par Dendio1, 04 avril 2012 - 08:06 .

[Dianjabla]

Dusty Everman wrote...

To my great sadness and embarrassment, it looks like there is a bug here that got introduced just before ship. It looks like the test for "is it time for ambient dialog in engineering" accidentally got switched to "are you good friends with Ashley". How did this bug happen? I have no idea, and need to do some detective work. This doesn't just block Ken and Gabby banter, but I think this blocks some Tali and Garrus banter in engineering too. As it stands now to see that banter, I believe you'll need to get Ashley in your party and take her on missions and/or give Ashley lots of attention by speaking to her and giving her the gift in the hospital. If you have Kaidan in your game, obviously this can't be done, and that sucks.

Though the fix is easy, the difficult part is getting the fix into a patch of some sort. Getting content fixes into patches is much harder than you'd think. It's a giant process. I'll try to get that fix through, but sadly, the odds of getting this type of fix into a patch is very low. It just kills me that so many of the people who care about Ken and Gabby (those of you reading this forum) didn't get to see that content. I tested the heck out of it too for weeks before ship. You just don't now how sorry I am.

Well that explains why there's no conversations in Engineering. I used to head down there all the time in ME2 to hear those two. Thanks for you time Dusty. Here's one more hand up for a patch that may never come.

[tigrina]

ParasiteX wrote...
EDIT: It would seem the engie section checks the [conditional_863] which either requiers int 10314 + 10330 to be atleast 8 or higher, or that boolean 19724 is set to true

[conditional_863]
(((plot.ints[10314] + plot.ints[10330]) >= 8) || (plot.bools[19724] == true))

Do those integers always exist? I'm trying to find them in a non-Ash save, and I can't.

/bit scared about adding them >.<

[Sepratard]

tigrina wrote...

ParasiteX wrote...
EDIT: It would seem the engie section checks the [conditional_863] which either requiers int 10314 + 10330 to be atleast 8 or higher, or that boolean 19724 is set to true

[conditional_863]
(((plot.ints[10314] + plot.ints[10330]) >= 8) || (plot.bools[19724] == true))

Do those integers always exist? I'm trying to find them in a non-Ash save, and I can't.

/bit scared about adding them >.<

You have to load the save you want to edit.

After that under the plot tab,  theres this section that says int. you can type that number in there, and click get, then set it to 8 and click set. (if you havent tried that allready, of course)
After that you have to save it again.

Thats how i did it at least. i searched for 10314, set it to 8, didnt touch the other one, seems to be working. 

Also, it only applies to the save you edit and the saves you make from then on out. so your previous saves should be ok if annything does go wrong, so as long as you back up your saves and keep some of your recent previous ones there should be no need to be affraid.

Romances seem fine at least. i tested it with tali and thing seem perfectly fine so far.

please correct me if i was wrong and/or made a mistake editing my save though ^^

Modifié par Sepratard, 04 avril 2012 - 03:07 .

[tigrina]

I think they also come up as '0' under 'Plot' if they don't exist though (with the 'get' command) (as I tried to find them manually in the 'Raw' Integer list, but could not find them there). Unless that list is incomplete. I guess this would be a better question in the gibbed thread maybe

Either way, the 'Plot' tab does seem the way to go, so I'll go with that and see if it works for me too!

/thanks

Modifié par tigrina, 04 avril 2012 - 03:05 .

[ParasiteX]

tigrina wrote...

Do those integers always exist? I'm trying to find them in a non-Ash save, and I can't.

/bit scared about adding them >.<

If you are in a game where Ash is dead, then those values will be at 0. And as such they will probably not exist in your current save. Adding them manually will not break your save.

It may possibly screw up conversations with Ash tho, if she is alive in your game.

[BrowncoatN7]

ParasiteX wrote...

I managed to find the integers that the game checks for, to make gabby and ken banter.

It's int 10330 and 10314. Their combined value has to be atleast 8 To make Gabby and Ken Banter.

You can either set 10314 or 10330 as 8. As long as their combined value is 8 or higher, then they will start bantering.

It will most likely screw up conversations with Ashley. But im not exactly sure in what way. But if your running with Kaidan, then it should be pretty safe.

EDIT: It would seem the engie section checks the [conditional_863] which either requiers int 10314 + 10330 to be atleast 8 or higher, or that boolean 19724 is set to true

[conditional_863]
(((plot.ints[10314] + plot.ints[10330]) >= 8) || (plot.bools[19724] == true))

Thank you, that worked Was disappointed that I wouldn't get to see the Gabby/Ken romance because I always save Kaidan ^^

[tigrina]

ParasiteX wrote...
If you are in a game where Ash is dead, then those values will be at 0. And as such they will probably not exist in your current save. Adding them manually will not break your save.

It may possibly screw up conversations with Ash tho, if she is alive in your game.

Thanks! 

That is *exactly* what I wanted to know.

[Changer the Elder]

I hope the extended cut ending covers the Engineers. I'm curious to see what happens to them

[devSin]

Hopefully the extended cut fixes the Normandy to not have holes all over the place, and fixes the banter in engineering if it doesn't make it into another patch. For great justice!

Fight the power, Dusty! Or be the power, I guess. ;-)

[Oradal]

I just finished Thassia (Asari homeworld mission) on my latest play through... I go to Engineering and get a Gabby & "Scotty" chat. Now I find if I go to another deck and back to Engineering I get another chat.

No idea if this will work for anyone else but it might be worth trying

[Darman]

wow. Nice work, but I fear that this may destroy all conversations with Ash. How much could be affected by this change?

[Swinns]

Hey dusty u still reading this and any news about patching this?

[Changer the Elder]

Oradal wrote...

I just finished Thassia (Asari homeworld mission) on my latest play through... I go to Engineering and get a Gabby & "Scotty" chat. Now I find if I go to another deck and back to Engineering I get another chat.

No idea if this will work for anyone else but it might be worth trying

Actually, as soon you get high enough relationship with Ashley, you don't even have to switch floors. Just walk in the engineering, listen to one dialogue, leave through the double door back towards the elevator and from there, walk back into engineering. That way, you can listen to all their banter sans the mission-related ones (repairing EDI, installing thermal pipe, Tali's death, etc..) and their argument that comes, from what I've discovered, after they run out of ambient dialogue and you go to one more mission.

Confirmed on several playthroughs to be working this way on PS3, I'm not sure about PC and XBoxers.

[Eragondragonrider]

I fixed this on my ManShep but now I think I lock myself out of my relationship with Liara(fix LOTSB bug too) not sure what I did wrong, Kaiden is the VS.

[stratataisen]

Eragondragonrider wrote...

I fixed this on my ManShep but now I think I lock myself out of my relationship with Liara(fix LOTSB bug too) not sure what I did wrong, Kaiden is the VS.

If you set both of the plot int varaibles 10314 & 10330 to  8 and DIDN'T make plot boolean 19724 = true then you should be fine.  19724 is the boolean for Ash's truelove, so long as it's false there shouldn't be a problem.

If you do run into one let us know.

[Eragondragonrider]

stratataisen wrote...

Eragondragonrider wrote...

I fixed this on my ManShep but now I think I lock myself out of my relationship with Liara(fix LOTSB bug too) not sure what I did wrong, Kaiden is the VS.

If you set both of the plot int varaibles 10314 & 10330 to  8 and DIDN'T make plot boolean 19724 = true then you should be fine.  19724 is the boolean for Ash's truelove, so long as it's false there shouldn't be a problem.

If you do run into one let us know.

Thanks figure it out today accidently set 19724 to true, fixed and now everything is work great.

[knight5923]

2 things:

1: I really hope a fix for this is included in the extended cut, if not sooner (please, please, please Bioware!)

2: And I'm just talking out of my butt here, but if this issue can be worked around by changing a number to 8+, could Bioware not just add something into the game that says "If Ashley = dead Ashley's approval becomes 9" ?  Surely that'd be a fairly simple solution, with no foreseeable side effects (since in that case, Ashley would be absent regardless) For those with Ash still in their squads, they'd still have to get chummy with her, but at least that way the dialogue is available to everyone

[MrNose]

Reading this thread is interesting. I was wondering what would happen to these two if they weren't Reaper goo in my playthrough.

[kikachan]

Out of curiosity (and because I'm confused), which one is for Ashley's friendship, 10314 or 10330?

[behellmorph]

I hope this issue gets fixed soon. The one gripe I had with the previous two games was how little interaction their was on the Normandy. Everybody stayed still and none of the characters moved or talk to other characters. Glad to see Bioware fixed that but this is a bit sad, missing out on banter.

But this sure does explain why dispite visting the enginner deck after every mission, I never see the argument the two have. When it comes to Ashley, to be honest I barely talk to her. While I do visit everyone else regualy, including Vega who I like, Ashley doesn't really do mucn whe she's back on the Normandy nor does she ever interact with anyone. She's like an outsider here, at least James interacts with the rest of the crew. Guess when this path comes that will change.