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[Valo_Soren]

Ah I wondered why they didn't talk so much in my playthrough with kaiden where they both survived, in my second one they had both died and my third one Gabby was dead so Kenneth didn't say much but my fourth playthrough im doing will have ashley and them both alive so i should get to see this, thanks for the heads up about it.

[Majulla]

Man I've been wondering why they never talked down there...now I can finally experience it since I've always had Kaidan alive. Thanks so much!

[HopHazzard]

Finally got around to importing that save with Ashley alive and am really enjoying Ken and Gabby's banter. I hope they fix the bug some day, because Ash is kind of a stick in the mud. She hardly speaks to me at all, and when she's not getting on my case about Cerberus, she sounds like she's about to break down and cry at any moment. And people say Kaidan's a whiner?

[Jurgwug]

So, has bioware fixed the bug yet? I really want to see their banter

[Hadeedak]

Any hope of sneaking that fix in with the EC? I do so love those two!

[Edolix]

Hadeedak wrote...

Any hope of sneaking that fix in with the EC? I do so love those two!

I really hope they do. Because Ash is always on bomb-duty for me, and I never get to hear ANY of the engineering dialogue T.T

[thegamefreek78648]

I thought they were a bit on the quite side....

[Michael177]

Still having this issue =(

[AngelFrost]

Dusty Everman wrote...

To my great sadness and embarrassment, it looks like there is a bug here that got introduced just before ship. It looks like the test for "is it time for ambient dialog in engineering" accidentally got switched to "are you good friends with Ashley". How did this bug happen? I have no idea, and need to do some detective work. This doesn't just block Ken and Gabby banter, but I think this blocks some Tali and Garrus banter in engineering too. As it stands now to see that banter, I believe you'll need to get Ashley in your party and take her on missions and/or give Ashley lots of attention by speaking to her and giving her the gift in the hospital. If you have Kaidan in your game, obviously this can't be done, and that sucks.

Though the fix is easy, the difficult part is getting the fix into a patch of some sort. Getting content fixes into patches is much harder than you'd think. It's a giant process. I'll try to get that fix through, but sadly, the odds of getting this type of fix into a patch is very low. It just kills me that so many of the people who care about Ken and Gabby (those of you reading this forum) didn't get to see that content. I tested the heck out of it too for weeks before ship. You just don't now how sorry I am.

I know you could have just stayed quiet on the whole thing and avoided the fan whinging, so posting is really appreciated.

As a completionist with the entire trilogy (and to date has done and found everything in +80 hour games), I used to go down to Engineering too all the time to hear their amusing banter in Mass Effect 2. And while I know the odds are against it because of the risk of new bugs being caused, here's another hand up in support of a fix addition for this issue into a patch for players who have Kaiden in their game.

Thanks again for the explaination Dusty.

[jd641]

Yeah the explanation is appreciated. I was always wondering why they were silent unlike in ME2.

[Landon7001]

loved ken and gabby.....second only to mordin and joker in the funny dept.....and they finally got 2gether!

[Alix71]

Jurgwug wrote...

So, has bioware fixed the bug yet? I really want to see their banter

When Dusty reported the bug in the first place, he said:

the odds of getting this type of fix into a patch is very low.

And if you look at the patch descriptions for 1.02 and 1.03, there's no mention of them.

Maybe it'll get in the EC? But I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Alix71]

Darman wrote...

wow. Nice work, but I fear that this may destroy all conversations with Ash. How much could be affected by this change?

If Ashley is alive, unless you don't have her friendship high enough, you don't need to implement this workaround, so that shouldn't be an issue.

If you're asking because Ashley's friendship isn't high enough to trigger the banters...that I don't know how to respond to and would probably relate to the question downthread about what precisely those plot flags are. Best I can do is look up the flag values in my Ashley friendship playthrough to see what each of them are.

[Ranger_Captain]

For those that are interested, having tested this pretty extensively now, setting int 10330 to 8 has no ill effects ingame. It is, in fact, the number of missions you've brought Ashley on post-coupe. int 10314 is your relationship status, pending on gifts given, positive conversations, and obviously keeping her alive. So even if no fix comes, in the future you can start your campaign by just setting int 10330 to 8 without worry and not losing any/screwing up any conversations with Ash.

Additionally, if you force the second number to be inordinatly high, it forces her to be the second (if non-LI ) crewmember in the ending scene. This leads me to believe each crewmember has a mission variable that can determin them to be you're "favorite." I, like many with the From Ashes DLC have the issue (if Javik is fully spoken too) always having him be the second crew member. My guess says that is because his two variables, espeically his conversation one (given the shere number of times you can talk to him) can be much higher than any other characters. I've tested that by recruiting him early, never using him, but talking to him fully and still he comes out over any other squaddie. If anyone has his mission count int# can they supply it? 

Modifié par Ranger_Captain, 06 juin 2012 - 04:31 .

[EricHVela]

Alix71 wrote...

Jurgwug wrote...

So, has bioware fixed the bug yet? I really want to see their banter

When Dusty reported the bug in the first place, he said:

the odds of getting this type of fix into a patch is very low.

And if you look at the patch descriptions for 1.02 and 1.03, there's no mention of them.

Maybe it'll get in the EC? But I wouldn't hold my breath.

I don't recall Liara's flippy monitors noted in 1.03 patch notes, but they're definitely fixed for me (PC).

[Kickiluxxx]

Is it alright if I have Ashley and I add 10330 before she joins my party?

[EricHVela]

Kickiluxxx wrote...

Is it alright if I have Ashley and I add 10330 before she joins my party?

I read somewhere that you only should try the fix if Ashley doesn't join Shepard (for whatever reason) as it can glitch Ashley's dialog (what little there seems to be of it).

[Dusty Everman]

Alix71 wrote...

When Dusty reported the bug in the first place, he said:

the odds of getting this type of fix into a patch is very low.

And if you look at the patch descriptions for 1.02 and 1.03, there's no mention of them.

Maybe it'll get in the EC? But I wouldn't hold my breath.

It turns out that the Ken/Gabby bug couldn't be fixed in a code patch, but hopefully it can be fixed in downloadable content.  I can't make any promises, but I'm hopeful that it will get fixed in the Extended Cut, and if not that, then in a later DLC.

[OrphanMakrBebop]

Dusty Everman wrote...



It turns out that the Ken/Gabby bug couldn't be fixed in a code patch, but hopefully it can be fixed in downloadable content.  I can't make any promises, but I'm hopeful that it will get fixed in the Extended Cut, and if not that, then in a later DLC.

Dusty, I love you!  I was literally just wondering about this, I am so glad you care about this game as much as we do.  Ashley is the most boring character to have on the ship, but I like the engineers so much that I feel obligated to keep Ash around.  I repeat, I love you!

[Ranger_Captain]

Kickiluxxx wrote...

Is it alright if I have Ashley and I add 10330 before she joins my party?

Tested and yes. 10330 has no ill-effects as it is just a mission count (i.e. 10330 = 3 means you've had her on 3 missions as a squadmate, so setting it to 8 just means eight missions.).

10314 is her "relationship" (friendship or otherwise) count and altering that one DOES screw up her dialog. 10330 has no effect on her, only on forcing the dialog banter in Engineering. The only thing I haven't tested yet on this fix is having Ash, keeping her alive (with 10330 set to 8 from Mars on) but not being friendly. My guess says having Ash as a squadmate alot may force "friendlier" dialog (especially at the coupe attempt) but I doubt it.

Modifié par Ranger_Captain, 08 juin 2012 - 11:16 .

[MadCat221]

*EDIT* Nevermind, post right above mine had that info.

Modifié par MadCat221, 08 juin 2012 - 03:11 .

[devSin]

Dusty Everman wrote...

It turns out that the Ken/Gabby bug couldn't be fixed in a code patch, but hopefully it can be fixed in downloadable content.  I can't make any promises, but I'm hopeful that it will get fixed in the Extended Cut, and if not that, then in a later DLC.

Use your puppy-dog eyes, Dusty!

Stand outside Gamble's office, and give him the look. "Every time a player enters engineering and Ken and Gabby have nothing to say, kittens die. Kittens, Mike! We're murdering kittens! This has to stop!"

[Quyk Sylvyr]

I finally am doing my first playthrough with Ashley alive. I was shocked when I first heard Gabby and Ken talking. I hope this gets fixed. I didn't even know it was broke in my first two playthroughs.

[FFmasterIsmael]

Yeah I really hope they fix it in the Extended Cut DLC. I knew they were being really quiet. Certainly after reading an article where Bioware said that they didn't put in as many squad-mates because they wanted to focus on more personal interaction with the crew. The annoying part is I really wanted those conversations in my first play through, because that's my true play through. That's when everything is new and you want to do a lap of the citadel and Normandy after every mission. I checked them on Youtube. They are really nice, I'm really annoyed I missed out on them because an employee changed the requirements for those conversations to show up to "are you close friends with Ash". That's just stupid. I missed out on the Garrus and Tali flirting because of that too. Everyone in engineering was dead silent every time. I hate these glitches that Bioware has. I played DA:O Awakening like 3 times because of the glitches in that and Witch hunt. It's really annoying. The least they could do is list all the known glitches and how to get around them if can get around them at all. Not everyone plays on the pc. At least they can use a save editor. And then they don't want to bother with a patch because it's too expensive and the small percentage that cares about the full story doesn't matter enough. I now have to play the first and second game again and leave Ashley alive which I didn't want to, just so I can experience the banter in engineering. It's not fair.

[BadExamp1e]

Dusty Everman wrote...

Alix71 wrote...

When Dusty reported the bug in the first place, he said:

the odds of getting this type of fix into a patch is very low.

And if you look at the patch descriptions for 1.02 and 1.03, there's no mention of them.

Maybe it'll get in the EC? But I wouldn't hold my breath.

It turns out that the Ken/Gabby bug couldn't be fixed in a code patch, but hopefully it can be fixed in downloadable content.  I can't make any promises, but I'm hopeful that it will get fixed in the Extended Cut, and if not that, then in a later DLC.

Are you guys aware of the similar bug that occurs if you're in a ME1 romance with Ashley? If you're in a ME1 romance with Ashley the engineering dialogue won't trigger either.

You see? This is what happens when you rush games.