One consideration has to be as to how this affects war assets-not much in the case of individuals, but apparently it's better to NOT have Ashley join your crew for war assets. But, now for more fulfilling conversation and banter you need her.
I think I'm the only person that disliked Kaidan and Ashley equally. What tended to tip me in favor of her (not ever as a love interest) was how much she just always blamed herself for her grandfather's sake. She was extremely annoying though. But Kaidan was always telling Shepard what to do, not suggesting things but implied some things, too. That bugged me. It's pretty sad when one character that I don't think needed to be introduced as opposed to all those wonderful ones in ME2 (Vega) ends up being someone I finally liked a lot more than Shepard's supposed really good friends. I disliked him at first because I figured he took the place of others I really liked (Thane, for one). But Ashley and Kaidan tended to be minimized so much in ME2. I just can't figure out what Bioware was thinking with how they handled some of these characters.
Liara is about the only one I can think of that you can romance through 3 games, but does not contribute to the achievement in ME2, so you have to cheat on her to get it. And if you don't get the LotSB DLC content, well her ME3 story doesn't seem to make as much sense. And then in ME2, once you finish her story, well she is totally done with you and turns robot. Senseless.
Ken and Gabby?
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#202
Posté 18 juin 2012 - 04:07
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I hope so; engineering is currently a very quiet place.Dusty Everman wrote...
I can't make any promises, but I'm hopeful that it will get fixed in the Extended Cut, and if not that, then in a later DLC.
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Posté 18 juin 2012 - 04:15
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Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...
I hope so; engineering is currently a very quiet place.Dusty Everman wrote...
I can't make any promises, but I'm hopeful that it will get fixed in the Extended Cut, and if not that, then in a later DLC.
In my game engineering is a quiet place... And I have Ashley alive and romanced.
There's a crap ton of Ash bugs. If you're in a ME1 romance with Ash the engineering dialogue won't trigger either. Truly sucky.
#204
Posté 18 juin 2012 - 04:23
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This makes the engineering full of banter. I haven't tested it if Ashley is alive though, but it works with Kaidan. Maybe you should test it, BadExamp1e?
This makes the engineering full of banter. I haven't tested it if Ashley is alive though, but it works with Kaidan. Maybe you should test it, BadExamp1e?
#205
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 02:16
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Do you know if this made it into the extended cut, Dusty?Dusty Everman wrote...
It turns out that the Ken/Gabby bug couldn't be fixed in a code patch, but hopefully it can be fixed in downloadable content. I can't make any promises, but I'm hopeful that it will get fixed in the Extended Cut, and if not that, then in a later DLC.
(If somebody here is on the Twitter, please send a message to Chris and/or Mike to see if they know, as well.)
#206
Posté 23 juin 2012 - 06:11
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Dusty Everman wrote...
Alix71 wrote...
When Dusty reported the bug in the first place, he said:the odds of getting this type of fix into a patch is very low.
And if you look at the patch descriptions for 1.02 and 1.03, there's no mention of them.
Maybe it'll get in the EC? But I wouldn't hold my breath.
It turns out that the Ken/Gabby bug couldn't be fixed in a code patch, but hopefully it can be fixed in downloadable content. I can't make any promises, but I'm hopeful that it will get fixed in the Extended Cut, and if not that, then in a later DLC.
Any news on if this made it in to the EC dlc?
#208
Posté 24 juin 2012 - 03:29
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BadExamp1e wrote...
Are you guys aware of the similar bug that occurs if you're in a ME1 romance with Ashley? If you're in a ME1 romance with Ashley the engineering dialogue won't trigger either.
Huh? I played a Shepard in an ME1 Romance with Ashley who did not continue the Romance and the engineering dialogue triggered for me. And I didn't use the workaround.
Was she on Normandy for you in Act 2? Did you unlock her bonus power?
#209
Posté 24 juin 2012 - 09:45
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Yeah, did this fix make the Extended Cut? It is the only bug in the game that bugs me, other than the face import one but that was fixed. Well, that and the MP exclusive guns...
#210
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 04:34
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HBC Dresden wrote...
Yeah, did this fix make the Extended Cut? It is the only bug in the game that bugs me, other than the face import one but that was fixed. Well, that and the MP exclusive guns...
The Ken/Gabby, Tali/Garrus bug should be fixed now in EC. Depending on the save game you use, you might have to complete a mission before any banter happens in engineering, but it should now behave as designed.
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Posté 26 juin 2012 - 04:58
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Dusty Everman wrote...
HBC Dresden wrote...
Yeah, did this fix make the Extended Cut? It is the only bug in the game that bugs me, other than the face import one but that was fixed. Well, that and the MP exclusive guns...
The Ken/Gabby, Tali/Garrus bug should be fixed now in EC. Depending on the save game you use, you might have to complete a mission before any banter happens in engineering, but it should now behave as designed.
Great news, thanks for letting us know!
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Posté 26 juin 2012 - 07:24
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Dusty Everman wrote...
HBC Dresden wrote...
Yeah, did this fix make the Extended Cut? It is the only bug in the game that bugs me, other than the face import one but that was fixed. Well, that and the MP exclusive guns...
The Ken/Gabby, Tali/Garrus bug should be fixed now in EC. Depending on the save game you use, you might have to complete a mission before any banter happens in engineering, but it should now behave as designed.
I thank you and everyone who was responsible for getting this fix in the Extended Cut. It means soooo much for me and makes all this ending business worth it just to get this complicated fix so fast. I am definitely doing another playthrough just to hear all this excellent dialogue.
Once I found out about the bug a couple months ago, I always dreaded going to the Engineering Deck, but not anymore; this deck and its crew will now be just as lively as the rest of the ship! Many thanks!
Once the MP weapons are released for SP, I will be content upgrading the new weapons until new SP DLC comes out!
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Posté 26 juin 2012 - 07:25
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Yessssssss! Now I can happily use a save file with Kaidan and get all the dialogue.
Glad you managed to get this fix in.
Glad you managed to get this fix in.
#214
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 07:32
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I finally managed to get these two together!
(fistpump!)
Good for them
(fistpump!)
Good for them
#215
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:11
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Now Ken can make his dirty puns once more!
Thanks for curing their laryngitis, BioWare!
Thanks for curing their laryngitis, BioWare!
#216
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:17
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Denied them gambling in 2 and denied them hooking up in 3.
#217
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 09:27
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syllogi wrote...
Dusty Everman wrote...
HBC Dresden wrote...
*snip*
The Ken/Gabby, Tali/Garrus bug should be fixed now in EC. Depending on the save game you use, you might have to complete a mission before any banter happens in engineering, but it should now behave as designed.
Great news, thanks for letting us know!
^this, haven't played the EC yet, but thank you all the same
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Posté 27 juin 2012 - 12:06
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Dusty Everman wrote...
HBC Dresden wrote...
Yeah, did this fix make the Extended Cut? It is the only bug in the game that bugs me, other than the face import one but that was fixed. Well, that and the MP exclusive guns...
The Ken/Gabby, Tali/Garrus bug should be fixed now in EC. Depending on the save game you use, you might have to complete a mission before any banter happens in engineering, but it should now behave as designed.
Noticed this just before heading to Horizon after installing the EC.
...and now I will start an entire playthrough through scratch just to hear them.
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Posté 27 juin 2012 - 12:07
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Glad they fixed Ken & Gabby 'though never saw it in my first playthrough. Was too late, I guess.
However, I wonder if BW also fixed Ashley's dialogue bugs as well.
However, I wonder if BW also fixed Ashley's dialogue bugs as well.
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Posté 27 juin 2012 - 01:09
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Dusty Everman wrote...
HBC Dresden wrote...
Yeah, did this fix make the Extended Cut? It is the only bug in the game that bugs me, other than the face import one but that was fixed. Well, that and the MP exclusive guns...
The Ken/Gabby, Tali/Garrus bug should be fixed now in EC. Depending on the save game you use, you might have to complete a mission before any banter happens in engineering, but it should now behave as designed.
Yes! Thank-you Bioware, for both this bug fix and for the Extended Cut. My playthrough feels a little more complete now
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Posté 27 juin 2012 - 02:09
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Is there an easy way to trigger these? I just got the "Is EDI piloting the Normandy or is she the Normandy?" argument but I can't seem to trigger anything else.
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Posté 27 juin 2012 - 02:21
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You're a prince, Dusty. Thanks for keeping us in the loop on this one.
So you'd have to do a mission, enter the engineering bay, do another mission, etc. Which means you won't be able to see it all if you're just loading from the final save and replaying Cronos and Earth.
I think the banter flag only lets you do one per mission.Stealthfire wrote...
Is there an easy way to trigger these? I just got the "Is EDI piloting the Normandy or is she the Normandy?" argument but I can't seem to trigger anything else.
So you'd have to do a mission, enter the engineering bay, do another mission, etc. Which means you won't be able to see it all if you're just loading from the final save and replaying Cronos and Earth.
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Posté 27 juin 2012 - 02:43
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Much, much thanks for this update, guys - sadly I won't be able to see any of the banter on my current playthrough, but I will on my next NG+ (which now, thanks to the EC, I actually want to do now).
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Posté 27 juin 2012 - 03:12
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CptData wrote...
Glad they fixed Ken & Gabby 'though never saw it in my first playthrough. Was too late, I guess.
However, I wonder if BW also fixed Ashley's dialogue bugs as well.
As far as I know, there is no dialog bugs related to Ashley. Ashley just doesn't have much dialog on the Normandy. Each squad mate had a line count budget. Though Ashley has the same budget as Kaidan, the writer for Ashley decided to use the budget more on the Citadel than the Normandy, so she doesn't have as much to say between missions, but she has more to say during her Citadel moments.
