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[lastpawn]

Well yes, my main concern is that the endings are nonsensical and frankly insulting.

Somewhat seriously though, what's wrong with a happy ending?

The notion that a happy ending is unrealistic is laughable on its face. If you want realistic military war action, go back to ME1 and watch Jenkins get cut down on Eden Prime. I can tell you from personal experience: there's your realism. If you want realism, perhaps you should have been upset that Shepard survives that first mission against overwhelming odds because, well, that's not realistic in the least.

Most video games with "tragic endings" are just as unrealistic as video games with "happy endings." In both games the hero survives, completely unrealistically, against overwhelming odds, through MOST of the game. The only difference is that the tragic hero then dies at the end. That's it.

I personally don't care. But again, if we're being serious, let's do it right. It's all escapism and nonsense.

Modifié par lastpawn, 18 mars 2012 - 09:07 .

[Malacath360]

It's not about whether shepard lives or dies it's the fact that everything you did in ME1 and ME2 was for nothing.

I've replayed ME1 loads of times because I loved saving the citadel and getting humanity a spot on the citadel council.

I replayed ME2 because I destroyed the collectors base giving hope the reaper war can be won.

But all that was for nothing because no matter what you do in ME3 galactic civilisation is doomed.

The Relays being destroyed would trap everyone in whatever system they are in meaning that as the entire galactic fleet is in the Sol system they would be trapped there with not enough food for everyone as earth has been decimated. They will all starve to death, especially the quarian and turian fleet.

And that AI admits controlling the reapers so it didn't make sense why shepard did what it asks willingly. The shepard I've been controlling for the entire series would have tried to destroy that AI which would have disabled the reapers.

This ending has totally taking way my incentive to replay the game as because there is no happy ending and civilisation is doomed there is no point replaying. I doubt I would bother buying DLC either because it would still be pointless unless it changed the ending.

This dues ex style ending just feels out of place in Mass Effect

[Sidney]

It isn't an issue of happy vs tragic. Plenty of good tragic endings exist, bleak ugly little things that are well done. The ending of ME3 isn't bad because of happy/sad it is just poorly done.

[Han Shot First]

That depends on your definition of a happy ending.

If your definition of happy ending is that every single character should survive and live happily ever after, than yes, it would be an inappropriate ending for Mass Effect 3 that would be a poor fit thematically. It would be just as terrible an ending as the one that we got. (which is far too bleak)

I'm in favor of a happy ending, but by a happy ending I mean one in which galactic civilization is saved and no factions of allies get betrayed in exchange. But some people should die in achieving it, possibly including Shepard.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 18 mars 2012 - 09:15 .

[Alfa Kilo]

I do not want a happy ending. I want an ending that offers logic and closure. Neither of which was delivered with the ending we got, in my opinion.

[Tenshi]

if you think you are mature just because you like scary and depressing ending then you need to grow up. i would not mind bad ending, these endings we have, happy endings, maybe more, JUST CHOICE. [i wanted my shepard to stay spectre and pwn all villans in the galaxy after reapers, lol].

[Rencor2k]

i don't care about a happy ending.. i want to see everything i spend so many hours for in the end game.. where are all the armies i collected?

[Ziggy]

I want a happy ending.

Not stupidly happy, heavy losses are inevitable in such a large scale war, but still would have liked to see a promise of rebuilding and recovery with the galaxy unified by the conflict and shep getting to live happily ever after with LI

[GhostV9]

I want things to make sense. And yes, I want a happy ending, big deal.

[Icinix]

Exposition, Extravagance, Epilogue.

The Ending needed these three things.

We got,

Empty, Erratic and...well I can't think of any more words that start with E - but really Empty and Erratic covers it.

[furryrage59]

It should have all manner of conclusions, good, bad, ugly, tragic.

Not just tragic and full of plot holes and lol logic.

What's with this new attitude that a good ending with closure is bad, are some people trying to be edgy or something?

Sound like a bunch of hipsters.

Modifié par furryrage59, 18 mars 2012 - 09:58 .

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

So, the Citadel its destroyed, the Relay its destroyed,remembar Arrival.

the remane Galactic Fleet its locked into th Sun System,

all the species in this Glactic Fleet not have a Home, not have the possibility to return into the HomeWorld,

some planet and system its now isolate for the rest of the Galaxy,

the Relay its the only system to travel in the Galaxy,

Mass Effect Universe its finished, the 3 ending not give a good future for this Universe,

if you Destroyed the Repaer and all synthetic species and life Shepard not die, also survivor, but for whats ?

the Normandy survivor in all the 3 ending, but its on a strange planet, the ship damaged, but the entire squad and crew its live, but for whats ?

not have the possibility to escape and return on Earth, because the Relay not exist,

so its possible for BioWare create a new title based on Mass Effect Universe ?

for me not, because Mass Effect 3 its also the anding for all possibile parallel story,

BioWare have deiced to kill Mass Effect Universe in this apparentli Shepard Trilogy,

why BioWare not put in Mass Effect 1 and 2 the possibility to travel on Thessia, whit Liara ?

why BioWare not have put more aree on the Citadel ?

why BioWare not have give the possibility to visit Palavan whit Garrus,

the only world if you ara visit in this trilogy its : Noveria, Feros,Tuchanca, Ilium, Omega, i put this because its open world, not large, but give the possibility to wathc the people and the architecture in this place

Modifié par FRANCESCO84Inn, 18 mars 2012 - 09:59 .

[Chakuura]

I think there should possibly be the option of a happy ending, but that is far from my main concern. I would be more than happy with a bittersweet ending, as long as it made sense and didn't doom a majority of the entire galaxy. I think people who merely hate the ending because of it being sad are in the minority here.

[elarem]

I wanted an ending that wasn't twaddle - that gave the closure that we were promised before they decided on 'lots of speculation from everyone' and logic and role-playing be damned.

They didn't need to take inspiration from Battlestar Galactica (new version), Lost, Deus Ex: Human Revolution or The Matrix. If Bioware had looked at the last episode of the fourth Blackadder series they would have seen a satisfying yet sombre ending (it gets me every time). I cared about those crazy characters but the fact that they all died together with no happy ending for them was true to life.

A happier ending would have been nice as an option to work for, but I prefer Shepard, the LI if there was one, together with all the Normandy crew, doing something heroic that enables victory at the end even if they didn't live to see it - but that's just my choice.

As for a happier ending not possible - think of The Lord of the Rings trilogy if Frodo had died after Gollum took the ring from him. It wouldn't have been as satisfying but it would have been dramatic. Clearing up the aftermath of war is not as rewarding/glamorous as going out a hero in battle - and in ME3 there's a lot of galaxy to clean up. But we'll never know how because we, the purchaser and player of the game, are not on the need to know list.

[Random citizen]

Zoedoll wrote...

 I want the possibility of a "happy ending" (as if anything could be more than bittersweet after all the deaths, the fall of Thessia, etc). It's not against the feel of the series at all. Everyone in ME2 spent the whole time talking about how it was a suicide mission and that we'd probably all die but you could finish with absolutely no people dead whatsoever, right down to the kidnapped crew, if you made the right choices. Personally I chose to never have a 100% success playthrough because it felt a bit weird after all that talk but it's nice to have the options, and we were promised options...

Agreed.

And as far as ME2 goes, I did not choose to have a 100% sucess, but I got it anyway as I was so damn careful, methodical and did not hesitate to act when I had to. And it felt pretty damn rewarding.

I knew some of those who have been on my team would die in ME3, but one surviving when it seemed like all hope was lost made me burst of joy and hope. It gave me hope for an happy ending rebuilding Earth with my friends and loved ones.

Modifié par Random citizen, 18 mars 2012 - 02:59 .

[T_elic]

Oh no! Your EMS rating is to low! The only option you can pick is: "destroy ****ty topics about the ending"

[durasteel]

Shepard is trying to defeat the reapers in order to save the Galaxy and the people he cares about.

In the end as it currently is, Shepard can defeat the reapers, but he can't save the Galaxy... so what's the damn point?

[Random citizen]

rikbarla wrote...

Oh no! Your EMS rating is to low! The only option you can pick is: "destroy ****ty topics about the ending"

If your EMS rating is too low, you should never make it past the Reapers orbiting Earth!
Thats how you use a factor as EMS.

Modifié par Random citizen, 18 mars 2012 - 03:01 .

[Cadence of the Planes]

aLucidMind wrote...

Most of us don't want a "happy ending". Most of us want an ending that actually makes sense and doesn't make the Reapers creation to be something as stupid as "I don't want organics to be killed by synthetics so I made synthetics that kill organics so organics won't be killed by synthetics".

Personally, I prefer darker endings. This wasn't dark, it was just stupid.

Does it make sense that there would be 130 hours of
awesome, outstanding gameplay capped off by 20 minutes of bizarre? The game
makers aren’t stupid. I’m guessing there is more to the ending that what you
take at face value, and this will be revealed in due time in the form of
another game or DLC. 

[SimonM72]

Happy ending or harpy ending?

I have no problem with bittersweet or even downright tragic endings, but there should be the polar opposite as well.

Modifié par SimonM72, 18 mars 2012 - 03:03 .

[sheppard7]

It's not really about a happy ending to some as it that as Darth Vader would say to Bioware, "I find your LACK of ending variety DISTURBING."

Basically the endings are all the same for everyone but Shepard and even 2 of the 3 are even the same for Shepard. And no matter how many things you've done or not done up to that point changes anything.


Plus all the plotholes each one brings to the table. They add more questions than they actually answer.

Modifié par sheppard7, 18 mars 2012 - 03:07 .

[Afliction2643]

I think alot of people want something to strive towards. If you do everything right in all 3 games and you want it why shouldent you be able to have a happy ending. Knowing that no matter what i do it all ends with chose your favourite color whats the point in?

[Silasqtx]

Afliction2643 wrote...

I think alot of people want something to strive towards. If you do everything right in all 3 games and you want it why shouldent you be able to have a happy ending.

This.
Knowing that no matter what you do it all ends by choosing the same bleak ending in a different colour really kills re-play value.

Also, as you (op) have the right to say "i love grimdark endings" we have all the right to say "we love happy endings".
Stated that we're equal and without priorities of any kind, the best solution would be an ending that reflects what you've done, accomplished and failed in the three games arc.

We're all on the same side, we all want an ending that makes sense and means something to us. The only difference is that some ( a lot ) people like me want a brighter resolve. Why do you oppose that?  Stop the infighting and join the movement.

Hold the line.

[durasteel]

It isn't about happy, it is about win.

Shepard isn't fighting the reapers because they owe him money, or because they called his momma fat. Defeating the reapers is the means to an end: saving the galaxy from having its civilization destroyed. Not 50,000 years from now when the next cycle ends, but right now.

If Shepard defeats the reapers but the galaxy still gets wrecked, that's not a win... that's losing. Every color of the end seems to lead to a Galactic Dark Age, every color of space magic wrecks the galaxy. No matter what you do in all three games, Shepard loses. Epic fail.

Modifié par durasteel, 18 mars 2012 - 03:24 .

[Afliction2643]

Silasqtx wrote...

Afliction2643 wrote...

I think alot of people want something to strive towards. If you do everything right in all 3 games and you want it why shouldent you be able to have a happy ending.

This.
Knowing that no matter what you do it all ends by choosing the same bleak ending in a different colour really kills re-play value.

Also, as you (op) have the right to say "i love grimdark endings" we have all the right to say "we love happy endings".
Stated that we're equal and without priorities of any kind, the best solution would be an ending that reflects what you've done, accomplished and failed in the three games arc.

We're all on the same side, we all want an ending that makes sense and means something to us. The only difference is that some ( a lot ) people like me want a brighter resolve. Why do you oppose that?  Stop the infighting and join the movement.

Hold the line.

Maybe you missunderstood what i was saying so i will reiterate. What i was saying is choice matters. Not everybody wants a happy and thats equally valid as the people who do. if you chose to putt in the effort to achieve a happy ending why shouldent you be able to have one? Take ME 2 suicide mission as an example if you screw it up shepard and everyone else dies. But if you putt in the time and effort and make the right choices everyone can survive. Why cant we have the same for ME3?

Hold the line people

Modifié par Afliction2643, 18 mars 2012 - 04:41 .