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[BWGungan]

Yes, it did.  I have zero drive to replay it with my other Shepard now.  I don't even want to go back to the first one to play that anymore either.

It would be one thing is the ending were merely mildly disappointing, but conclusive.  As it is, it's just a dead IP now.  No reason to play any prequel if they bother making one either.

Modifié par BWGungan, 18 mars 2012 - 01:52 .

[Johcande XX]

Short answer, yes.

I can still play a few missions, but I can't justify becoming immersed in the universe like I used to. Though I will say it made it easier to chose Renegade for everything, used to think it made my character too evil.

[nevar00]

Yes, it did. It invalidated every decision I made as I found out none were really addressed. In fact because of that I'm actually playing multiplayer when I could be playing through with 5 or 6 other Shepards: something I never saw myself doing.

[Swisspease]

It ruined the game. It invalidated every decision I made since the first game so it also ruined the entire series. I can't look at ME1 or ME2 the same again. I will go back and play the first two again and try to forget there is even a third.

[flexxdk]

The endings ruined the trilogy for me.

I couldn't get into ME2 anymore. And that actually says something about me, since I have put more than 550 hours in ME2 (even after ME3 was released I was still enjoying ME2). But when I started my current playthrough in ME2 after I had dropped it so I could play and finish ME3... I couldn't get into it.

Every time I did an important mission in ME2 I thought "What I do here will be irrelevant anyway at the end of ME3..." The same for ME1. I had hoped it would be different with that one. It wasn't.

No, the trilogy is ruined for me.

Modifié par Whacka, 18 mars 2012 - 01:53 .

[Jere85]

Thats the hard part though isnt it?... i love the series, it was the best thing since push up bra's, and i hate saying bad things about BW and i wont, but the simple truth is that its impossible for me to start playing one of the games again, i tried a 2nd run, didnt work. I do hope, they will fix this, and soon, people are allready giving up, alot of us are strongly still holding the line, but if something doesnt happen soon, BW will lose the fanbase.

[UltmtBiz]

Yep.

[DarthSyphilis59]

SamFlagg wrote...

The crucible is a plot device not a deux ex machina.

And if there are endless posts pointing out that they felt it ruined the game for them, is there really a purpose to asking.

"I hear what you're saying.......but did it really really ruin the game for you?"

"Yes"

"Really really?"

"Yes"

"Reallllllllllly?"

My friend, a Deus Ex Machina is a term in literature for a plot device. What you said is contradictory. The crucible is a Deus Ex Machina.

[DrowVampyre]

Yep, ruined the whole series.

[Brahlis]

Der Estr Bune wrote...

Yes. It ruined the whole series for me, personally.

[Drewzshepard]

Yes. I have no desire to replay it, due to the fact I know I'd be dissapointed again.
ME1 playtime: can't count
ME2 playtime: almost can't count
ME3 playtime: one playthrough

Some people say it's more about the journey, but thats like a horse saying it wants to take a lovely roadtrip to the glue factory.

[Boceephus]

Yes it ruined it for me. My 7 playthroughs gathering dust will attest to that. No point in working towards that ending.

[xeNNN]

i felt it ruined the game before i even came to the forum and that was 5 minutes after the 5 minutes that destroyed the series...... WHY END IT LIKE THAT fml. .lol

[BWGungan]

SamFlagg wrote...

The crucible is a plot device not a deux ex machina.

And if there are endless posts pointing out that they felt it ruined the game for them, is there really a purpose to asking.

"I hear what you're saying.......but did it really really ruin the game for you?"

"Yes"

"Really really?"

"Yes"

"Reallllllllllly?"

A deus ex machina /ˈdeɪ.əs ɛks ˈmɑːkiːnə/ or /ˈdiːəs ɛks ˈmækɨnə/ DAY-əs eks MAH-kee-nə;[1] Latin: "god out of the machine"; plural: dei ex machina) is a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly solved with the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability, or object.

Modifié par BWGungan, 18 mars 2012 - 01:59 .

[devSin]

It truly did.

I don't even know how long it's been since I suffered that ending, and I still have no desire to touch the series again.

DarthSyphilis59 wrote...

My friend, a Deus Ex Machina is a term in literature for a plot device. What you said is contradictory. The crucible is a Deus Ex Machina.

I would argue that the Catalyst is the deus ex machina.

The Crucible is simply an aspect of the Catalyst, and an object that gets you to the Catalyst (it serves no actual function in the story but to get you from the beginning to the magic elevator ride to Heaven).

Modifié par devSin, 18 mars 2012 - 01:57 .

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Nope, ending was fine in my books, there were other aspects of the game which annoyed me beyond all F-ing compare, but by avoiding said characters/situations I simply solved it

[FoxShadowblade]

Considering that no matter how hard I try to win, I get slapped by starchild and told to pick three crappy choices.... It's ruined. If BioWare fixes the endings, it would definitely make it not ruined.

Whether or not I buy another BioWare game depends on the quality of the fix ss well.

Til then, I'll be holding the line.

[darknessmyown]

Series, all of it..... just ruined and left feeling somewhat.... empty for me personally. I beat it once and I have hardly done a thing with any of them since.

[SealKudos]

I want to say that the series isn't ruined for me.  I loved all three games, and the endings weren't bad, they were just really strange and out of place.  They were not Mass Effect.  The moment vent-kid pulled Shep up, I was thinking, "This is not Mass Effect... What am I feeling right now?  This is really odd..." and then it hit me - Deus Ex.  Many others have come to the same conclusion.  The endings feel exactly like something you'd find in Deus Ex, but not Mass Effect.

I also think the big problem people have is that they feel the galaxy is done.  It's over.  No mass relays, species all over the map, etc...  But I think that's kind of the point.  A lot of people are screwed.  Really, really screwed.  Maybe whole species will die out.  Maybe the dark age will last for centuries.  And it's pretty much guaranteed that everyone Shepard knows and loves has already died in the war or will die as a consequence of the "victory".  But people are alive.  That's what matters.  They can live without fear of being Tungsten-rammed up the sphincter by some random army of hypocritical, ironic robots preaching a message that's the king of the "Yo Dawg" meme.

If anyone here has played Gears of War 3, remember the last conversation between Anya and Marcus?  Yeah, pretty much that.

So all-in-all, no.  It didn't "ruin" the series.  But tainted it?  Soured it?  Yeah.  I can't think of Mass Effect without knowing the outcome, and that outcome makes my stomach tie in knots.

[kidbd15]

Yep... for a game all about choice, choice doesn't really matter in the end... even the end choice isn't really a choice, it's all essentially the same thing because we don't see what happens after, and all those choices are not my own, they are those of a starchild that we just happen to accept without question (!??)

My shepard would have told the starchild to "go **** off, if those are our only choices, we will fight you to the end... I beat you twice before, I can do it again"... that's why there is no motivation to play it again

oh, and here, this is what the ending should have been like, represented by a nice flowchart:
http://h9.abload.de/img/jhtqyrqxxg.jpg

Modifié par kidbd15, 18 mars 2012 - 01:59 .

[Aensland75]

It didn't ruin it for me but the ending left me with a sour taste the first time.
I love the Mass Effect series but the ending didn't happen for me.or should I say my Shepard.
I will still be playing and enjoying the series but I will NEVER accept this ending.
I love my Shepard too much to let her go through that. I just handle it as a nightmare when I complete it ME3 again.
Still have hope and a little faith left in Bioware. Most of my faith evaporated along with the ending.

[Cheviot]

savionen wrote...

Cheviot wrote...

savionen wrote...

The last 10 minutes of the game...

Made Harbinger not make sense.

Actually, the ending implied why Harbinger was so interested in Shepard in the first place.

There was already enough logic why Harbinger would be interested in Shepard.

He wanted to indoctrinate Shepard, that's pretty clearly stated in ME2, whether we talk about the indoctrination theory in ME3 or not.

Shepard is effectively the leader of Earth, and in ME3 is now the leader of the Alliance. Indoctrinating Shepard would basically be an "I WIN" button for the Reapers. Harbinger would suddenly know EVERYTHING about humans, as well as much more about all the other species, in many different ways.

That's a strong possibility of course, but it doesn't explain why Harbinger lands at the Conduit, shoots Shepard, then flies off without taking him away for indoctrination.  That would be the perfect time, wouldn't it?  Especially with a huge army on the door step.  I think Harbinger has another reason to be so focused on Shepard, and the ending gives a big hint at what this is.

[Nefelius]

I'd rather picked a color back in ME1 an forgot about it than wait for 5 years to do it.

Modifié par Nefelius, 18 mars 2012 - 01:58 .

[soull2]

I thought it did when it first happened but I think I got over it… I’d still like a better ending but the end does not currently ruin the absolute fun I had getting to it (To be honest though the indoctrination theory helped with that a lot)

[Joy Sauce]

 I won't say it "ruined" it, but it did retroactively taint the other two entries in the series. Overall though, the saga would still be enjoyable to play again, but I'm still trying to live down the disappointment, so it will be a while before I think about doing it.