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[FirstCitizen800]

I am not a fan of the ending. I very much enjoyed the series, up until the finale. I simply don't understand why doing epilougues is now considered 'base' and not artistic enough to be included in video games anymore. The last game with an epilouge was Dragon Age 1 I think, and that is the last Bioware game I can remember loving unconditionally. Oh well, I was mad as hell when I first beat the game and got the everyone dies ending. But, companies change. It's my fault really, for having pre-ordered the last four bioware games, and bought the last five. I'm hoping bioware will put things out more to my taste in the future, but whatever, but this is was my last bioware purchase on faith alone.

[Cartek_]

Pretty much. I can remember back in 2007 when I was watching the E3 demo for Mass Effect for Xbox 360. It looked pretty cool and I was kinda bummed about it only being available on 360 at the time of launch. 2008 came around and they finally announced the PC version. I was terribly excited, to say the least. Even though it was in many ways a flawed game, from a gamplay mechanics perspective, I really fell in love with the characters in the universe. When Mass Effect 2 came around I bought it on launch day and completed it in 2 (!) sittings, only getting up for the bathroom, drink and pizza delivery. I love how the mechanics were much improved and how it was an actual sequel and not just a carbon copy of the first game.

Eventually Mass Effect 3 came around. It was my most anticipated game _ever_. I hated myself for choosing to play the demo, but what the hell right? Anyway, it turned out that ME3 would come to have some of the best moments in the series; highlight being Mordin's renegade death (sorry friend) and when I knew I had passed the point of no return, I was sad, yet excited that the end was looming ahead.

The end. What the hell was that, I thought. I completed the game on monday, and haven't been able to stop thinking about it since. I can't remember being this disappointed in something entertainment related ever before. Afterwards I've also realised how I even ignored quite a few obvious flaws in ME3 just because there were so many awesome moments in it, only to have it all end in a way that does not fit in with the rest of the series' events, for reasons that many have already mentioned.

God damn. Wall of text. Etc.

[Kuriby]

Perfect video for those that haven't watched it, it sums up everything wrong with the ending.

Yes it ruined mass effect series for me, but I am coping by waiting for a DLC

[locsphere]

I think I can speak for a lot of people who literally tried to get a second play through and couldn't. Seriously I was torn up really bad about it. I usually try to speculate and see their reasons. But it all boiled down to bad writing. I LOVE BIOWARE. So that hit me even harder. That the company I love, could fail in such a way. I blamed EA because I didn't want to believe that BioWare could have such a fall from grace. I speculated a Indoctrination, but the way they went about it... I mean you release the follow up DLC a wekk after as your core gamers have completed it. Followed by a full world release releasing it to our foreign brothers and sisters same time manner.

Yes, it really ruined the franchise for me. I have been all over the place on these forums trying to vent frustration. I know we need to give them more time, but it is really hard. Esecially the more time to think there is, Technically the longer I go the more I think I was sold an unfinished game so they could make more money on DLC

[joopark]

Yes, the ending ruined the entire series. I have no desire to re-play any of the games because we all know how it ends.

[amelonbread]

Yeaaah it ruined the series for me. I wouldn't say I can't play it any more... but it's not the same at all. Not when all of it is for nothing in the end.

[PrinceLionheart]

 I'm with Angry Joe's assesment. It's still a hell of a fun game to play, but it totally kills the story. 

[superchevy999]

TheBRADLeyB wrote...

 It ruined all replayability for me.

MP is still fun and success (even though they keep trying to screw the players).

The Ending of ME3 just makes the entire series a waste of time since all roads lead to the same (3 slightly different) ending. 

As explained by:

http://img813.images...55/choicesn.jpg

just out of curiosity did you want a mass effect 4 starring new characters after the events of mass effect 3?  seems to me the only way to do that would be to have mass effect 3 end on a similiar note.  does that excuse the glaring plot holes and horrible writing in the end?  no it does not, but again i think ppl had unrealistic goals about just how open the ending could have actually been without destroying all chances for another mass effect game that wasnt a prequel.

[savionen]

MadRabbit999 wrote...

I honestly do not get what is wrong with the ending, seriously can somebody explain?

This was meant to be the last ME game, they always said it was going to be a trilogy, and yes it does not have the "hollywood" happy ending because it has a point to make, if you do not get it, then you should go back and try understand it a little more... besides the 30 sec clip a the end of the credits, pretty much makes you understand that at some point in the future, things will get back the way they were with space travel and all.

If they ever plan on continuing the ME universe, they can do it by using completely new, fresh elements and races thanks to the fact that probably thousands of years have passed, so that they do not repeat themselves by basing a sequel with the same places over and over again, and ending up with a bland "milking" franchise (I am looking at you Assassin's creed 2...).

And even if there was a "happy ending", there would be little to base the stories on, at least very little to make it this epic... (Seriously, something more threatening than the reapers?) not to mention that most races are half exinct and it woudl take several thousands years anyways to get back to where ME begun..

If anything, a dark and tragic game where the hero sacrifices himself is a cliche in video games these days. I could go into more details, but I don't want to list of spoilers from 20 different video games.

Modifié par savionen, 18 mars 2012 - 02:11 .

[AwesomeDudex64]

 Pretty much. I'm trying a second playthrough but I only get like one mission done every other day.

[ScarletDusk21]

It didn't completely ruin it for me, but it did confuse me and leave me disappointed. I knew the ending wasn't going to be a happy one but not one with as many questions as I had. I was sitting there slightly agape as the credits rolled and said "Is that it?" It just felt very out of place, possibly anticlimactic because of the expectation of something better...but I do intend to play it again after I get over it.

[MadRabbit999]

Linus108 wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

I honestly do not get what is wrong with the ending, seriously can somebody explain?

This was meant to be the last ME game, they always said it was going to be a trilogy, and yes it does not have the "hollywood" happy ending because it has a point to make, if you do not get it, then you should go back and try understand it a little more... besides the 30 sec clip a the end of the credits, pretty much makes you understand that at some point in the future, things will get back the way they were with space travel and all.

If they ever plan on continuing the ME universe, they can do it by using completely new, fresh elements and races thanks to the fact that probably thousands of years have passed, so that they do not repeat themselves by basing a sequel with the same places over and over again, and ending up with a bland "milking" franchise (I am looking at you Assassin's creed 2...).

You are looking at the ending too simplistically.

Read this article:

http://www.gamefront...ns-are-right/2/ 

The ending is poorly written. Plot holes, lore errors. It's illogical and incoherent. Some might mistake these endings as being good, because it's a typical hero plot (the hero sacraficing their life for the greater good). It might seem appropriate because it's tragic.

But then you really think about why none of it actually makes sense, and how Shepard's sacrafice is completely undermined. 

Sorry but I cannot take this guys eriously:

" featuring a Grandfather and his grandson that almost seems to smugly imply that the gamers themselves were nothing but children who couldn’t fully understand these events "

This guys has no idea what he is talking about... to me he sounds more like  the cry of an angry child/nerd.... that is definetly NOT want that message implied...

Edit: Also... "Yes, this is exactly what he says" no it is not.... reapers were actually created to save organics by "storing" them under form of reapers.. to you and to me it might sound liek brutal killing but it is not the same as killing for the sake of being organics like he thinks...[/b]

Modifié par MadRabbit999, 18 mars 2012 - 02:15 .

[LolaLei]

Yeah it did.

[t_i_e_]

No words can describe my amount of hatred and anguish.

[Trishot]

It nullified all my choices of all my playthroughs. I would have enjoyed seeing different choices take effect. The reason I did many playthroughs is because I loved the idea my choices mattered. They didn't so the replay value is gone, thus ruining the series for me

[sizuka2]

Ruined the game, ruined the series. Planned replays felt pointless, were abandoned after five or ten minutes in.

This series is something I'd quite liked - I spent an hour manually deriving my face-code from raw save-file data after that face import bug kept me from importing my first Shepherd... and I counted the time well spent. Now? No point to any of it.

It is difficult to fathom how no one within the studio saw this coming... or was permitted to act to prevent it. It has taken a tremendous toll on community goodwill, and looks likely to take a tremendous toll in lost profits - and all of it was avoidable.

[Sainta117]

For now, yes. I sincerely hope they fix it so I can go back to loving the game (and the franchise!)

[Silvren555]

Short answer, yes.

Not so short answer, I bought ME off steam and have over 500 hours logged on it, ME2 also on steam, over 400 hours logged, ME3, one playthrough and while I MAY play ME1 and 2 again, I will never play any of the remaining Shep saves I made for ME3 until something is done.

[shinobi602]

From an intense ME fan, it didn't just ruin the game, but the whole trilogy.

I don't even feel compelled to replay through any of the games anymore really. Just makes me sad

[RandomGuy928]

The poor story resolution did ruin the story-centric game for me, yes.

Multiplayer is still fun, but scratch that "perfect" trilogy run I was planning to do once people figured out all the optimal outcomes in ME3. It just doesn't matter anymore.

[Linus108]

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Linus108 wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

I honestly do not get what is wrong with the ending, seriously can somebody explain?

This was meant to be the last ME game, they always said it was going to be a trilogy, and yes it does not have the "hollywood" happy ending because it has a point to make, if you do not get it, then you should go back and try understand it a little more... besides the 30 sec clip a the end of the credits, pretty much makes you understand that at some point in the future, things will get back the way they were with space travel and all.

If they ever plan on continuing the ME universe, they can do it by using completely new, fresh elements and races thanks to the fact that probably thousands of years have passed, so that they do not repeat themselves by basing a sequel with the same places over and over again, and ending up with a bland "milking" franchise (I am looking at you Assassin's creed 2...).

You are looking at the ending too simplistically.

Read this article:

http://www.gamefront...ns-are-right/2/ 

The ending is poorly written. Plot holes, lore errors. It's illogical and incoherent. Some might mistake these endings as being good, because it's a typical hero plot (the hero sacraficing their life for the greater good). It might seem appropriate because it's tragic.

But then you really think about why none of it actually makes sense, and how Shepard's sacrafice is completely undermined. 

Sorry but I cannot take this guys eriously:

" featuring a Grandfather and his grandson that almost seems to smugly imply that the gamers themselves were nothing but children who couldn’t fully understand these events "

This guys has no idea what he is talking about... to me he sounds more like  the cry of an angry child/nerd.... that is definetly NOT want that message implied...

Edit: Also... "Yes, this is exactly what he says" no it is not.... reapers were actually created to save organics by "storing" them under form of reapers.. to you and to me it might sound liek brutal killing but it is not the same as killing for the sake of being organics like he thinks...[/b]

And I can't take you seriously. Disagree with something, makes everything else he says invalid. Great logic! 

Modifié par Linus108, 18 mars 2012 - 02:16 .

[Yuzna75]

Did ruin the entire series? not really, just took a really awesome game and made it kinda average. I will probably replay ME 3 eventually but right now I don't see the point. If anything I just felt empty when the game was over. As for the multi player, couldn't care less, at least it didn't hurt the single player element.

[The Tizminator]

Ruined the series for me.

It's been 3 days since I finished it and I'm still reeling from the overwhelming disappointment.

Unfortunately, even though the whole series was immense, the last 5 minutes killed it. I wasn't expecting the Star Wars fanfare ending, but I did want some closure. Instead I got Casper the ghost giving me 3 different coloured explosions to choose from, leaving most of the galaxy destroyed from Mass Relay explosions and 99% of sentient life stranded in our Solar System. The Normandy crash lands on an unknown garden world after, inexplicably, travelling through a relay, despite the battle being at Earth. I may as well have just let the Reapers kill us all.

I've played through ME1 & ME2 at least twice. 1 Paragon, 1 Renegade. I have little desire to play through ME3 with my Renegade FemShep, because every time, I pick up the ME3 box, I'm just reminded of the ending and relive the sadness & disappointment all over again. A game with so many epic moments destroyed by 5 minutes of bizarre stupidity.

Casey Hudson stated the ending was designed to have people talking about it and that's why they went with it.

Be careful what you wish for.

[Baldrick67]

Well it certainly made me feel like I didn't get my monies worth.

I replayed ME and ME2 multiple times to do all the classes and go renegade or paragon and even as FemShep.

I remember in ME I paused and had to think really hard about saving the council or letting them die as well as freeing the Rachni Queen. I played them through as different choices just to see what yould be the consequences.

In ME2 again I had to think about the collector base and to push the quarians to seek war or peace with the Geth.

As ME3 has such an atrocious end I haven't started a new playthrough and thus it seems so short, and even if I did replay the game my choices have little bearing on the outcome.