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[Meltemph]

Lt.Boom wrote...

Truely and honestly did that ending really ruin a amazing game which start to all the way to the ending run was amazing. In my opinion it wasn't all that terrible..Granted it was a desus ex machina but then again so was the crucbile it self if you think about it.

It is much more then just a "deus ex".  It has already been explained a million other times... It is not about he ending ruining the game, it is about the ending being so stupid, that you cant play the game without thinking what they did with the ending.  BSG did a better job with its ending and it was a full blown Deus Ex.  

[Cheviot]

savionen wrote...

Cheviot wrote...

That's a strong possibility of course, but it doesn't explain why Harbinger lands at the Conduit, shoots Shepard, then flies off without taking him away for indoctrination.  That would be the perfect time, wouldn't it?  Especially with a huge army on the door step.  I think Harbinger has another reason to be so focused on Shepard, and the ending gives a big hint at what this is.

Indoctrination is in the mind... a Reaper doesn't have to physically hold somebody or keep them in their possession. It's a link. It's the easiest to create a link on someone who is full of adrenaline and on death's doorstep.

What are you saying is the other potential reason though? I know some people think Shepard is the Catalyst.

People think Shepard is the Catalyst?  That's something I'm interested in.  Do you have links to any threads about it? 

My other potential reason might take a bit of explaining, but in short: I think that after Soverign's destruction, Harbinger knew that Shepard could potentially reach the Catalyst (as the oldest Reaper, he had the greatest likelihood of knowing what it was, (but obviously not where)).  Harbinger had a vested interest in keeping Shepard from the Catalyst.

As for Indoctrination, I thought the subject had to be very close to a Reaper for at least a few weeks (like the Cerberus team on the Dead Reaper in ME2) for it to work long term because otherwise the indoctrinated subject dies pretty quickly?

[Annaleah]

I cant even bring myself to boot up Origin let alone start the game... too damn painful

[Pani Mauser]

Yes, ruined. I started NG+, got to the first citadel mission and just stopped. I cannot play anymore. I cannot play previous games. No matter how good they were, now they all lead to that ****ty rRBG ending. No hope, no mettar what you do, the result is always the same. 

Actually, after ending of ME3 I cannot play any games at all. I have quite a backlog of games waiting to be started or finished, but I just cannot start any game. Today was the only day since I finished ME3 when I played swtor for a bit. And not because I wanted, but just because it was my guild raiding day and I'm not Bioware to let down people that rely on me.

Modifié par Babe Mause, 18 mars 2012 - 02:25 .

[Alamandorious]

Come on over here, guys; this thread is talking about the same thing, and is over 1600 pages long...I suggest not trying to read it from the start.

It's basically the official HQ of the Retake Mass Effect 3 movement

http://social.biowar...ex/9512916/1681

Also, the campaign had fantastic moments; I was in love with it until, well, the ending.

My fave parts are the fleet coming in for the attack, and the quarian/geth missions.

Modifié par Alamandorious, 18 mars 2012 - 02:25 .

[Wowlock]

Yes...it did.

Why would I lie about this when I already paid for the Deluxe edition ?

It ruined the series for me because it felt like the things we done ever since the start of the first game had no impact on the ending. You could've just get hit by the Prothean Beacon at the start of the first game and sit in Medical Bay rest of the series and in the end, you would get the same result. Our choices, Assets , races we allied etc...none of them seemed to matter. Only thing that happened is Reapers' ridicilous logic are enforced on us and we basicly did their bidding for them. Sure you can also destroy them but for what cost ?

ME3 ending destroys everything you established over the course of the 3 games. I know there is a galactic war and nothing will stay the same but if we cannot preserve ANYTHING then what is the point of those choices and events ? Without Mass Relays...the ME galaxy as we know it is gone...there is no turn back from that unless magically some genius learned ALL the secrets to create new Mass Relays which would be ridicilous in on itself....

So yes...it did ruined the series that I had created for myself with my choices...and for most of us.

[Darth Garrus]

Completely and utterly destroyed the series. IMHO it´s impossible to play again knowing that everything I do ends in... space magic. It´s just too ridiculous. So, yes. It ruins the game and the series.

I can´t look at it as just a "shooter with some story thrown at it". It was a journey. It is a journey if I start over. But knowing how it ends... no. It´s just not a journey anymore. It´s gone.

[Luvinn]

Ruined the trilogy for me, i have no desire to ever go back and replay any of the games again.

[Dot.Shadow]

Completely honestly - Yes, it did. It ruined my favourite franchise ever. It ruined my only true hero. I LOVED the Mass Effect universe. I've explored every little knook of lore for this game.

It was a real passion for me. A thousand hours ruined by 15 minutes of "ending".

[StarcloudSWG]

Yes, it honestly did ruin the game. It raised more questions than it answered, it was a complete tone shift and genre change pulled out of, to be polite, nowhere, at the last minute.
Further, it's been revealed that Casey Hudson convinced Mac Walters to gut the ending so that questions *wouldn't* be answered and that the ending was *deliberately* left incomplete.

It's the dumbest move any lead designer has EVER pulled, and by pressuring Bioware to change and fix the endings, we are giving them one last chance to repair the damage.

[Yoshi0o0]

It's been a little over a week since I beat the game, and was the last time I booted up single-player. I can't see that changing anytime soon. And multiplayer is only going to keep me entertained for so long by itself, so yeah, the ending killed the series for me.

[corkey sweet]

Lt.Boom wrote...

Truely and honestly did that ending really ruin a amazing game which start to all the way to the ending run was amazing. In my opinion it wasn't all that terrible..Granted it was a desus ex machina but then again so was the crucbile it self if you think about it.

i thought it was the best game in the series up until the last 15 minutes, the ending completely spoiled the game for me. as of now, i am not planing a second playthrough

[VivaLaWhatsername]

In all honesty yes, the ending did indeed ruin the rest of the game for me. Don't get me wrong though I absolutely adored the game until those last 10 mins when all I could think was "What's the point?" now that is literally all I can think whenever I even think about maybe playing it. I can't even play ME1 or 2 without that running through my head.

[BCMakoto]

Started the game up yesterday. When setting out to Mars I closed the game with the words:
"Why bother anyway...just to pick the color."

[RedNanaki]

Yes, it ruined it.

All those choices through all the games ultimately culminated in squat. The galaxy is screwed for centuries to come regardless of the outcome. All the conflicts you solved, all the people you united; They're worth diddly-squat.

[Kileyan]

StarcloudSWG wrote...

Yes, it honestly did ruin the game. It raised more questions than it answered, it was a complete tone shift and genre change pulled out of, to be polite, nowhere, at the last minute.
Further, it's been revealed that Casey Hudson convinced Mac Walters to gut the ending so that questions *wouldn't* be answered and that the ending was *deliberately* left incomplete.

It's the dumbest move any lead designer has EVER pulled, and by pressuring Bioware to change and fix the endings, we are giving them one last chance to repair the damage.

Where was it revealed that there was a more conventional ending that was replaced?

[Boceephus]

LPKerberos wrote...

Started the game up yesterday. When setting out to Mars I closed the game with the words:
"Why bother anyway...just to pick the color."

I didn't even make it to Mars before I decided that. 1 month ago I was rabid to finish all my meticulously crafted playthroughs.

[Teacher50]

And then Casey says, "this is not the last time you see Shepard." Yes he did... maybe this year sometime.

[LastLivingSoul09]

scyphozoa wrote...

I hate to use the word ruin, because all the game content is so good. But the ending completely kills my desire to replay any of the trilogy. My enthusiasm has been depleted

Same.   

[turian_rage]

For a few days it did. Then I saw so many discussions about the indoctrination theory that made me feel better. And hey, if they don't change the ending, then I will reject their reality and substitute my own. On my second play, and still holding the line.

[Midarenkov]

In a word, yes.

[AlexXIV]

Deus Ex is not so bad if done right. But I want something that is believable and somewhat builds up through the main game. The organics - synthetics war BS at the end makes no sense. You build peace between Geth and Quarians just to accept the BS talk from the starboy about how sythetics wipe out all organics. Based on what? I mean if I accept this I could accept any BS. Also where are the things that were supposed to be explained. The Rachni Wars, what exactly was the deal with the Asari beacon, what was the story of this first race that built the Reapers. What exactly is the Crucible and who 'invented' it. The ending doesn't answer anything and just opens more questions. That's no closure. It just leads ME1 and ME2 ad absurdum. I even wonder if letting the Reapers win is maybe the better option to the 3 we are offered. I mean eventually we build Reapers again anyway, according to the starboy or synthetics wipe out all organics if we are unlucky. Why does starboy give up their solution? Because Shepard made it into the Crucible? What kind of reason is that? Why does Shepard decide the fate of the galaxy? It is just an assembly of stupid events that never make any sense.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 18 mars 2012 - 02:36 .

[DragonRageGT]

Lt.Boom wrote...

Truely and honestly did that ending really ruin a amazing game which start to all the way to the ending run was amazing. In my opinion it wasn't all that terrible..Granted it was a desus ex machina but then again so was the crucbile it self if you think about it.

It ruined my motivation to replay the game. I can still do it but I am not enjoying that much. Not as much as I could if things were a bit different. I don't even mean new and happier ending, although I would enjoy it, but just an ending that makes sense and does not leave so many open questions about every damn thing.

[Vilegrim]

yes.  If I Ever play it again, Marauder Shields is as far as I go.

Modifié par Vilegrim, 18 mars 2012 - 02:35 .

[Kiara]

hmm there alot of points in the game I really like.. really! I am dissappointed in the ending yeah.. but I am still working on playing it again with a different character to play the moments in the game I did like...

Unless the ending is changed though I am not buying anything more from Bioware..