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[jb1983]

Lugaidster wrote...

jb1983 wrote...

Lugaidster wrote...

Deemz wrote...

jb1983 wrote...

Look fanboy, let me enlighten you on how a business works. 

Well said

Well said? We're trying to separate ourselves from stupid entitled brats by creating a notion that we are civil and mature and you say that's well said? I'm sorry, but if that's the case then there are some serious issues with this movement. Name calling and replying in a condescending is not a good way to advance the cause. 

This is why half of the people in Bioware is quiet, most of them would just snap out at fanboy outrage. PR exists to reduce damage to a minimum, we don't have that luxury. Name-calling and a condescending tone to those with different opinions is damaging to the cause.

I don't support nor agree, in a respectful way, with any statement jb1983 said.

So accusing us of dehumanizing people at Bioware is somehow civil? 

I am civil to a point. At the point someone doesn't understand basic business principles, but doesn't care anyway, I have a hard time being respectful. 

To support a movement like this everyone will have to make sacrifices. For some to stop playing the games they love, others will have to stop being douches. If you can't understand that being united in this means we have to be civil then the movement is doomed to fail. Patience is a virtue, one that is sorely missed right now.

I understand being civil, but "civility" differs from region to region. 

For instance, go to the Northeast and be sarcastic. No one will really notice or care. Do it in the South and you're the rudest person this world has ever seen. In one scenario it doesn't challenge your civility. In the other, you're uncivil. 

How I've responded in this thread is no big deal where I come from. It's me laying out basic facts to someone who doesn't get them. Perhaps I'm being uncivil. Or perhaps it's time for people to put on big boy pants. 

Maybe it's both. 

[Mr. Gogeta34]

That may sound harsh but let me explain why in a concise manner:

Because Bioware knows better... they know good and well they made an ending that makes no sense... and possibly for reasons of future exploitation.

[Lugaidster]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

//reads OP's message....


Not buying it. Let the bashing continue.

Because the purpouse of the movement is "bashing"? I was under the impression that we wanted to differenciate ourselves from people that just "bash" by making proper arguments and being civil. Hell, it's on the mission statement.

[DigitalMaster37]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

 I think a key point in people's persistance is that they want to make it explicitly clear that they are not okay with the ending, and that time doesn't dull the wound.  If everybody lapses into resigned "oh well, I just have to deal" mode Bioware can use the excuse that people just got over it and thus there is no need to change anything.  This is why people persist in repeating themselves or advocate long term actions like not buying DLC and games.  They want to not fade into the background until Bioware gives some kind of definite answer on the topic.  And yes, Bioware is comprised of humans, but so is the fandom.  We aren't just game metrics and statistics.  I think both sides could do with this reminder. 

Good argument, but I must ask you, when has any fan of BioWare had to go this far to get to the ear and action of BioWare?

Never... BioWare listens, and when they don't give you what you want, they at least take it into account and do "something" about it. That is their track record, I'd understand if BioWare had a record of betraying their fans, which anyone with eyes following BioWare since their start can say they haven't. BiOWare has always listened. I am one the fans who have been there since the beginning, so I know. 

Modifié par Deltaboy37-1, 18 mars 2012 - 05:30 .

[DaosX]

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

Cpl_Facehugger wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

I think the message is loud and clear for BioWare now. We spoke our peace, made our case and continue to do so.

Bioware is a corporation. Corporations are ruthless profit-maximization engines. This isnt really a bad thing, but it does mean that we can't treat Bioware the company as we'd treat any individual Bioware employee. The only way we'll get what we want is to convince them that there's money in it. Which is what a boycott does, by establishing that the consumer wants a new ending and will not give more money until that ending is delivered.

I respectfully disagree partially. If you are speaking of not buying any DLC that doesn't deal with the ending, then yes I agree. But what I am referring to is people cancelling SWTOR accounts and returning ME3. That makes absolutely no sense at all. I could argue that those people are terrible consumers in the first place, why did you initally buy SWTOR. I am almost scared to know. 

They are returning their copies of ME3 because they have a right to return a product that you're not satisfied with. If you buy a dryer that advertises that it dries your clothes while giving it a puffy feeling and, although it dried your clothes but it didn't give that puffy feeling, it is within your rights to return it. I am aware it's not a federal policy/law or anything but it is a policy that stores give to their customers. As for the SWTOR accounts, I actually totally agree with you in this one. I kinda feel sorry for THOSE developers (since a completely different team worked on both projects and they are getting screwed over for something they had nothing to do with).

[jb1983]

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

jb1983 wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

jb1983 wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

To respond, your issue is perspective. What you said is how you respond to a mistake or something faulty. Now I know we may view it that way, but they don't as it is a work of art and not an object that doesn't work anymore for instance or shipped faulty. 

Instead it is a disagreement on quality. And to further drive the point home, look at Chris' and Jessica's post. THAT IS A RESPONSE. Looking for information is basically saying in uncertain terms that "we want to know what you feel" so they can make changes. 

I swear we are at a place in society where everything must be RIGHT NOW and in reality it doesn't. Patience is in short supply and it is sad to see. 

Look fanboy, let me enlighten you on how a business works.

YOu just showed me that you are in that group I mentioned in my OP post. Good luck with your point of view. If things were that simple, you'd be president I'd bet. nah.

If you sell widgets for 5 years and people love your widgets, then your widgets work. If you change your widgets a bit and 98% of your customers complain and demand you change them back, your widgets no longer work. You can say, "It was an artistic change!" But that doesn't change the fact that 98% of your customers hate your widget and won't buy further widgets from you unless you change it.

And I take it most company's you know change things two weeks after it is released.

...Don't answer that, it is a trap.

So they can walk around all day and look at the world through hipster glasses for all I care - if they want to continue to succeed as a business, they need to tell the writers to get over it, realize that their little "artistic venture" failed miserably, and rewrite it. if the writers cant do that, then you fire the writers. Why? Because Bioware isn't an art museum, it's a business, and in order to survive it has to please its customers.

 

quick enlightenment: Art museums are businesses too. 

Again, its been two weeks. 

It's not a matter of, "Tell me exactly how your'e going to fix it right now." It's more a matter of, "Guys, 98% of your fans are furious and want the endings changed. Why haven't you at least said you're going to do that?"

Everything they're doing right now is what will find its way into business textbooks tomorrow about what not to do when faced with a customer crisis like this.

Again it's been like.... 2 weeks... Heck I could argue that it is lest than that given the fact that they just released in Asia. Dude if we were having this conversation in in April or June, then I might give you a point for your argument, but your argument doesn't have legs to stand on imo. 

Your only response is, "It's been 2 weeks derp!" Weak.

That has nothing to do with what I said. Any successful business, especially corporations, handle negative publicity within days, not weeks. If it's a problem, then at the very least they say they are working on a solution to the problem. 

Think back to last year when the Olive Garden ran into a "flag problem" where a certain restaurant wouldn't let a group display an American flag. Within three days the corporation had issued an apology, changed corporate policy, and by the end of the month had little lapel pins for everyone in the company to wear on their collars. 

A much more serious disaster, the BP disaster, had BP talking about solutions and fixing the problem within a week of the disaster. 

The only time we've seen corporations stay quiet during massive public criticism is right before they fold.

Now obviously Bioware is a different beast in many regards, but it's also similar. 

Again, your whole, "It's been 2 weeks derp!" means absolutely nothing. I'm not asking for the source codes for the DLC. I'm not asking for details. I'm not even asking if I have to pay for it. I'm only asking that Bioware says, "Yes, we're working on it. It's coming. We just don't know when." 

There doesn't need to be a timeframe for that. Why can't you get this?

The very fact that you put the BP incident in the same context as this game is an autofail on your part, I am sorry but arguing with you is not worth the time, no offense. 

Here you go: www.unc.edu/~theis/phil32/argsbyanalogy.html

Modifié par jb1983, 18 mars 2012 - 05:28 .

[the red boon]

Bioware I gave bioware my money expecting the product would be as they claimed so many times before release. In reality they took my money full well knowing their product didn't meet their promise. Claims become promises when you take the money.

[DigitalMaster37]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

I understand they're people, and I understand that they're probably many who worked on the game that are really hurt by the ending.

I also understand that if we let up on this at all that the BioWare/EA train will run us over and we won't have anything to do about it.

The truth is, I am not asking the pressure to let up, I am asking that the pressure be "smart" pressure and not wasted and useless energy. That is the TL;DR version of the OP post. 

[Ricvenart]

Sometimes I think people who post these topics, forget people are people.
They have flaws, they can be prone to extremes of emotion, they may not be perfectly eloquent or maybe misdirect thier feelings at the wrong thing.

The same can be said about Bioware, when the do the "Type alot, say nothing" PR. They forget thier fans who support them are people, not wallets.

Modifié par Ricvenart, 18 mars 2012 - 05:31 .

[jb1983]

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

 I think a key point in people's persistance is that they want to make it explicitly clear that they are not okay with the ending, and that time doesn't dull the wound.  If everybody lapses into resigned "oh well, I just have to deal" mode Bioware can use the excuse that people just got over it and thus there is no need to change anything.  This is why people persist in repeating themselves or advocate long term actions like not buying DLC and games.  They want to not fade into the background until Bioware gives some kind of definite answer on the topic.  And yes, Bioware is comprised of humans, but so is the fandom.  We aren't just game metrics and statistics.  I think both sides could do with this reminder. 

Good argument, but I must ask you, when has any fan of BioWare have to go this far to get to the ear and action of BioWare?

Never... BioWare listens, and when they don't give you what you want, they at least take it into account and do "something" about it. That is their track record, I'd understand if BioWare had a record of betraying their fans, which anyone with eyes following BioWare since their start can say they haven't. BiOWare has always listened. I am one the fans who have been there since the beginning, so I know. 

*Had

Ever since EA took over, Bioware hasn't really followed its past. That's why you had a writer leave saying the company had changed directions. 

Look to DA2. That game was full of holes, but hardly any of it got fixed. Even the DLC didn't really address the problems. 

The whole point is right now fans are having to make arguments for Bioware. They're having to say, "Look to their reputation!" The fans shouldn't have to.

It's not that hard for Bioware to say, "Ending DLC is on its way. Date and details TBA." How is that so hard?

[DaosX]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

That may sound harsh but let me explain why in a concise manner:

Because Bioware knows better... they know good and well they made an ending that makes no sense... and possibly for reasons of future exploitation.

Agreed. They've only had 2 previous games in the same franchise under their belt. They already know what their customers want and expect. Also, Bioware is a big developer...probably one of if not THE biggest developer right now. They have alot of people under their payroll with plenty of experience. That much experience isn't likely going to "accidently" screw up this drastically.

[Bigdoser]

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

I understand they're people, and I understand that they're probably many who worked on the game that are really hurt by the ending.

I also understand that if we let up on this at all that the BioWare/EA train will run us over and we won't have anything to do about it.

The truth is, I am not asking the pressure to let up, I am asking that the pressure be "smart" pressure and not wasted and useless energy. That is the TL;DR version of the OP post. 

I consider not playing their products and not giving them money smart pressure even the people who worked in PR in the PR thread said that's smart pressure. 

[BWGungan]

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

Sovereign z wrote...

They really need to say something. As each day passes, Bioware continues to dig themselves a deeper ditch for themselves.

I disagree. They are speaking. It's as if you want info on that DLC now.

ever think that they need to create it first?

How can they talk about something that probably wasn't planned???

Then, I'd bet you say they should have known what the response would be... then I'd point you to my first statement that is in the title, They are HUMAN. Give them a chance.

I'm certainly willing to give them some time, but I'm putting it out there now, that I will not be buying any ME3 DLC until the ending is changed/expanded.

I will not buy any ME merchandise of any kind, nor will I buy any future ME game which have already been identifies as prequels rendered futile by this ending.

As for non-ME products, I will not be pre-ordering them, and I will be waiting an appropriate week to make sure it doesn't contain garbage like this.

Modifié par BWGungan, 18 mars 2012 - 05:34 .

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Lugaidster wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

//reads OP's message....


Not buying it. Let the bashing continue.

Because the purpouse of the movement is "bashing"? I was under the impression that we wanted to differenciate ourselves from people that just "bash" by making proper arguments and being civil. Hell, it's on the mission statement.

Bashing is making proper arguements and voicing displeasure in a civil, but constant manner.  Negative feedback is bashing.  You can bash in a civil manner.

Uncivil ranting is ineffective and does not deserve the name of "Bash"..

Bashing beats in that there's an actual problem with something already done.. instead of just saying "do this for the fans because they'd like to see it."

[xsdob]

jb1983 wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

FoxShadowblade wrote...

While I still believe BioWare is listening to our concerns and make a dlc patch to thr endings, I don't blame people for wanting news right away.

But that isn't normal for any large corporation. As a business man myself, I understand things just don't happen that way. There is an addage that says, a small company is like a mouse, changes come fast and easy. With a larger corporation it is like an elaphant, quick turns are not possible and changes take time. Patience is the order of the day, you have to give them a chance. Everything they've done since we've been crying out says they are doing what they can to change and speak to us giving us the best they can. 

As a business man I know that is how it is. 

No. 

It doesn't take a long time to make an announcement or to release a few sentences saying an ending DLC is on its way, release TBA. 

I've worked in both small business and corporations. In the corporation I work for, the few times we get bad press we're usually on it that day. We formulate a quick response and say that we're "working towards a solution." We make it as clear as we can that we are working on a solution for the problem. 

Bioware has no excuse really.

They did do this, people here called them liars and conmen since they've been saying that they are listening and trying to fix the problem. We have ourselves to blame if we refuse to hear them when they speak.

[JerusPI]

"Sometimes People forget that Bioware are people"

So is Soylent Green

Just Saying

[DigitalMaster37]

Ricvenart wrote...

Sometimes I think people who post these topics, forget people are people.
They have flaws, they can be prone to extremes of emotion, they may not be perfectly eloquent or maybe misdirect thier feelings at the wrong thing.

The same can be said about Bioware, when the do the "Type alot, say nothing" PR. They forget thier fans who support them are people, not wallets.

Good point, but then I have to ask you what proof is there that they are spinning anything or giving us "PR" talk? 

Again, I am a business man so I know how it works and yes I have heard and seen my fair share of negative corporate actions and practices, but this isn't one of them. They are listening. 

Yes, some of the responses seem canned and I'll give that to you, but come on, we have nothing solid telling us that we're being given the runaround. If we never get what we are asking for, then we can start making those claims. 

[Mr. Gogeta34]

DaosX wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

That may sound harsh but let me explain why in a concise manner:

Because Bioware knows better... they know good and well they made an ending that makes no sense... and possibly for reasons of future exploitation.

Agreed. They've only had 2 previous games in the same franchise under their belt. They already know what their customers want and expect. Also, Bioware is a big developer...probably one of if not THE biggest developer right now. They have alot of people under their payroll with plenty of experience. That much experience isn't likely going to "accidently" screw up this drastically.

Exactly... and frankly, I don't like that implication.

[aliengmr1]

Agree with civility patience, but please stop with all the kid gloves nonsense. This idea that boycotting will hurt BW in any lasting way is absurd. Look what happened to Eve Online. They crossed a line with their customers and paid for it. You really think they would have done anything if people sat back and asked nicely? No. These situations arise when companies start seeing us as numbers. They want you to be afraid to bite the hand that feeds you. They need to know right now they are losing customers. They are going to do everything they can to wait this storm out.

BW knew this ending was going to ****** people off. Its my belief that they counted on a minority to be upset and not a majority. They talked about customers having a heated debate about the endings, which tells me they thought the "vocal" community would be split and bickering amongst themselves too much to do anything about it. IMO the ending shows how they tried to throw something together in order to even out the likes and dislikes. For example, instead watching your squad die from the beam, they are transported to the Normandy which gets marooned on a pretty planet. Seeing who steps out should make clear this was half-assed attempt to appease the "happy ending/LI" group. This is the only way I can explain that ridiculous scene.

My point is, BioWare messed up. The cheap, half-assed, tri-colored, single ending, to an other-wise beautifully written game speaks volumes. They need to be held accountable for that. They have an opportunity to earn my patronage back. I'll wait for their response, patiently, but if their next official announcement is Omega DLC, then its good-bye.

Modifié par aliengmr1, 18 mars 2012 - 05:38 .

[Lugaidster]

jb1983 wrote...

Lugaidster wrote...

jb1983 wrote...

Lugaidster wrote...

Deemz wrote...

jb1983 wrote...

Look fanboy, let me enlighten you on how a business works. 

Well said

Well said? We're trying to separate ourselves from stupid entitled brats by creating a notion that we are civil and mature and you say that's well said? I'm sorry, but if that's the case then there are some serious issues with this movement. Name calling and replying in a condescending is not a good way to advance the cause. 

This is why half of the people in Bioware is quiet, most of them would just snap out at fanboy outrage. PR exists to reduce damage to a minimum, we don't have that luxury. Name-calling and a condescending tone to those with different opinions is damaging to the cause.

I don't support nor agree, in a respectful way, with any statement jb1983 said.

So accusing us of dehumanizing people at Bioware is somehow civil? 

I am civil to a point. At the point someone doesn't understand basic business principles, but doesn't care anyway, I have a hard time being respectful. 

To support a movement like this everyone will have to make sacrifices. For some to stop playing the games they love, others will have to stop being douches. If you can't understand that being united in this means we have to be civil then the movement is doomed to fail. Patience is a virtue, one that is sorely missed right now.

I understand being civil, but "civility" differs from region to region. 

For instance, go to the Northeast and be sarcastic. No one will really notice or care. Do it in the South and you're the rudest person this world has ever seen. In one scenario it doesn't challenge your civility. In the other, you're uncivil. 

How I've responded in this thread is no big deal where I come from. It's me laying out basic facts to someone who doesn't get them. Perhaps I'm being uncivil. Or perhaps it's time for people to put on big boy pants. 

Maybe it's both. 

Go look at the media that criticize us and see what they are criticizing us for. They criticize us for being a bunch of disrespectful crying whining fanboys. By spouting "put on big boy pants" and "fanboy" you're not distancing yourself from that perception. I'm sorry, but it really doesn't matter if where you live people treat themselves like crap and it's normal, this is an international issue and that behaviour is not internationally acceptable. Treating someone in a civil manner is not conveyed by calling names or being condescending.

The worst part is that right now you're doing it to the people that is supposedly standing with you in the movement, imagine how that looks for outsiders that are pondering whether or not they join the cause. Even worse, imagine how that looks to the ones that oppose the movement using that argument. If you can't make a little bit of effort to be patient and civil (the international standard of it) then just be quiet. Since this movement lacks clear leadership, it is essential that those involved don't go around doing stuff that dilutes it's purpose. 

[DigitalMaster37]

BWGungan wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

Sovereign z wrote...

They really need to say something. As each day passes, Bioware continues to dig themselves a deeper ditch for themselves.

I disagree. They are speaking. It's as if you want info on that DLC now.

ever think that they need to create it first?

How can they talk about something that probably wasn't planned???

Then, I'd bet you say they should have known what the response would be... then I'd point you to my first statement that is in the title, They are HUMAN. Give them a chance.

I'm certainly willing to give them some time, but I'm putting it out there now, that I will not be buying any ME3 DLC until the ending is changed/expanded.

I will not buy any ME merchandise of any kind, nor will I buy any future ME game which have already been identifies as prequels rendered futile by this ending.

As for non-ME products, I will not be pre-ordering them, and I will be waiting an appropriate week to make sure it doesn't contain garbage like this.

I totally agree as I am in the same boat. The only part where I am not entirely on board is if they come out with a new game that I feel I would greatly enjoy. I'd honestly buy it, frustration with ME3's ending and all. I am a gamer and will not deprive myself from playing good games. 

[BWGungan]

xsdob wrote...

jb1983 wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

FoxShadowblade wrote...

While I still believe BioWare is listening to our concerns and make a dlc patch to thr endings, I don't blame people for wanting news right away.

But that isn't normal for any large corporation. As a business man myself, I understand things just don't happen that way. There is an addage that says, a small company is like a mouse, changes come fast and easy. With a larger corporation it is like an elaphant, quick turns are not possible and changes take time. Patience is the order of the day, you have to give them a chance. Everything they've done since we've been crying out says they are doing what they can to change and speak to us giving us the best they can. 

As a business man I know that is how it is. 

No. 

It doesn't take a long time to make an announcement or to release a few sentences saying an ending DLC is on its way, release TBA. 

I've worked in both small business and corporations. In the corporation I work for, the few times we get bad press we're usually on it that day. We formulate a quick response and say that we're "working towards a solution." We make it as clear as we can that we are working on a solution for the problem. 

Bioware has no excuse really.

They did do this, people here called them liars and conmen since they've been saying that they are listening and trying to fix the problem. We have ourselves to blame if we refuse to hear them when they speak.

No they didn't.  They said that "they're listening to feedback", that "feedback is taken into account when creating new DLC", and that "it's not the last you'll be seeing of Commander Shepard".   This could mean anything.  It could mean any kind of mission DLC like the type of stuff they added to ME2 that happens before the end of the game.

They never once said they are working on a solution to this specific problem.

Modifié par BWGungan, 18 mars 2012 - 05:41 .

[xsdob]

jb1983 wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

jb1983 wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

FoxShadowblade wrote...

While I still believe BioWare is listening to our concerns and make a dlc patch to thr endings, I don't blame people for wanting news right away.

But that isn't normal for any large corporation. As a business man myself, I understand things just don't happen that way. There is an addage that says, a small company is like a mouse, changes come fast and easy. With a larger corporation it is like an elaphant, quick turns are not possible and changes take time. Patience is the order of the day, you have to give them a chance. Everything they've done since we've been crying out says they are doing what they can to change and speak to us giving us the best they can. 

As a business man I know that is how it is. 

No. 

It doesn't take a long time to make an announcement or to release a few sentences saying an ending DLC is on its way, release TBA. 

I've worked in both small business and corporations. In the corporation I work for, the few times we get bad press we're usually on it that day. We formulate a quick response and say that we're "working towards a solution." We make it as clear as we can that we are working on a solution for the problem. 

Bioware has no excuse really.

To respond, your issue is perspective. What you said is how you respond to a mistake or something faulty. Now I know we may view it that way, but they don't as it is a work of art and not an object that doesn't work anymore for instance or shipped faulty. 

Instead it is a disagreement on quality. And to further drive the point home, look at Chris' and Jessica's post. THAT IS A RESPONSE. Looking for information is basically saying in uncertain terms that "we want to know what you feel" so they can make changes. 

I swear we are at a place in society where everything must be RIGHT NOW and in reality it doesn't. Patience is in short supply and it is sad to see. 

Look fanboy, let me enlighten you on how a business works. 

If you sell widgets for 5 years and people love your widgets, then your widgets work. If you change your widgets a bit and 98% of your customers complain and demand you change them back, your widgets no longer work. You can say, "It was an artistic change!" But that doesn't change the fact that 98% of your customers hate your widget and won't buy further widgets from you unless you change it. 

So they can walk around all day and look at the world through hipster glasses for all I care - if they want to continue to succeed as a business, they need to tell the writers to get over it, realize that their little "artistic venture" failed miserably, and rewrite it. if the writers cant do that, then you fire the writers. Why? Because Bioware isn't an art museum, it's a business, and in order to survive it has to please its customers. 

It's not a matter of, "Tell me exactly how your'e going to fix it right now." It's more a matter of, "Guys, 98% of your fans are furious and want the endings changed. Why haven't you at least said you're going to do that?"

Everything they're doing right now is what will find its way into business textbooks tomorrow about what not to do when faced with a customer crisis like this.

That analogy doesn't work because a widget doesn't require an entirely seperate processor in order to make itself visual work, and it isn't a physical product stored on a disc. Making new software for a game is a hell of a lto more difficult than making a fix for a widget and takes time.

And another thing, businesses take time to respond, espically entertainment media. In fact, the only fast response they do have is to pull a product, because the goverment makes it so damn easy to.

[WildcardCharlie]

That's because Bioware are not people.

They are a corporation, and should be treated as such.

Bioware is not your pal. They are a company, you're their consumer. If you think the relationship between us and them is anything else, you are naive.

Modifié par WildcardCharlie, 18 mars 2012 - 05:39 .

[BWGungan]

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

BWGungan wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

Sovereign z wrote...

They really need to say something. As each day passes, Bioware continues to dig themselves a deeper ditch for themselves.

I disagree. They are speaking. It's as if you want info on that DLC now.

ever think that they need to create it first?

How can they talk about something that probably wasn't planned???

Then, I'd bet you say they should have known what the response would be... then I'd point you to my first statement that is in the title, They are HUMAN. Give them a chance.

I'm certainly willing to give them some time, but I'm putting it out there now, that I will not be buying any ME3 DLC until the ending is changed/expanded.

I will not buy any ME merchandise of any kind, nor will I buy any future ME game which have already been identifies as prequels rendered futile by this ending.

As for non-ME products, I will not be pre-ordering them, and I will be waiting an appropriate week to make sure it doesn't contain garbage like this.

I totally agree as I am in the same boat. The only part where I am not entirely on board is if they come out with a new game that I feel I would greatly enjoy. I'd honestly buy it, frustration with ME3's ending and all. I am a gamer and will not deprive myself from playing good games. 

I never said I would buy anything of theirs, I will just be waiting a week before buying to get more details on the product from people who have finished it.