Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
The only reason I am tolerating you is because I have the tough skin to deal with your type without totally burying you with your own tactics. Even civil people can punch back, but I will do what you cannot, that is have a coherent conversation without the need for personal attacks in order to make myself feel good. Trust me, I totally could stick it to you, but I'll be the bigger man.
Yet here-goes. Inspiring breakdown of your view of "as a whole". Again, your perception is flawed and in the desire of not repeating myself, I will say again that your argument fails for reasons I already stated. I agree that the conclusion and beginng is very important. Yet, the very fact that it can be argued that the conclusion is more important than the filler story or the beginning proves my point yet again. ME3 is art and the fact that people have different opinions regarding what is the most important phase of the story as in foundation or key parts in it is indicative of my point.
You feel the ending weighs that heavy on the "whole", others may not. If everyone thought like you, then you'd have a point. But fortunately for the rest of us, you are you and we are who we are. In fact I cringe at the thought of thinking like you, no offense.
So once again, I ask you, where is the foundation of your argument? Or better yet, checkmate.
I'm so happy you're holding back your god-like abilities to crush me. Since you're being so gracious, I guess I'll go ahead and reply, since there is no threat of me crumbling before you like a tender Greek virgin before a wrathful and virgorous Zeus.
I'm not saying that the conclusion is the most important part of a story. It's not. But it's a basic part of the story, meaning that without a strong conclusion, the story fails. The fact that there has been a massive fan outrage to the ending shows that, as a whole, the story has failed. Why? Because the conclusion failed. Have there been people who liked it? Yes, there have been. But they're in such an extreme minority that it's hardly worth noting.
At the end of the day, Bioware is a business. Even if you want to say that what they're doing is art (it's not, it's artistic, but it's not art), this doesn't negate two very simple truths:
1) The art has to be pleasing to a great number of people, otherwise the business will fail
2) Their art is participatory
When the conclusion fails for this "art," the entirety of the project fails. If the introduction or middle parts failed, then it wouldn't have moved on to a conclusion. Thus, in some ways those are more important. With this form of media, the visual presentation is also important, and they exceeded at this. But for the thing to work as a whole, it needs a conclusion. And it lacked that. The poll on here shows that 98% of the people want it changed. If this is going on here at the boards, IGN, YouTube, and so on, that means we can safely assume the vast majority of people want the conclusions changed. Now why is that?
If something can be great regardless of its conclusion, then why are we asking for them to be changed? The fact is, we want it changed because they ruin the entire story. Why do they ruin the entire story? Because for a story to work, it has to have a conclusion. At this point, I'm simply speaking in tautologies, so I don't know how much clearer I can get for you. Your responses of "nuh-uh" and "I'm basically Jesus Christ with my replies, but I'm holding back" don't actually negate what I'm saying.
I'm not trying to "win" the argument. I'm trying to get you to see that this is why people are responding the way they are. You somehow are failing to see this. Hence my question about the short bus (and again, I really am curious, was it bumpy?).
Modifié par jb1983, 18 mars 2012 - 07:34 .
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