Dragoonlordz wrote...
Nope, lies will get you nowhere.
Modifié par Kloborgg711, 18 mars 2012 - 06:27 .
commonperson wrote...
I have to say I agree. I find this "hold the line" thing kind of distrubing. An writer sits down to create a piece of work and pours their soul in to it. They create something they feel is powerful and moving and resolves the story they have been telling. Then just because a vocal group of individuals don't like it they are expected to change their story. That's akin to going back and changing Lord of the Rings to a slap happy road trip. This kind of loops back to an "ownership" argument regarding art. Art for the viewer versus Art for art's sake. Frankly I'm of the opinion the artist creates the work for themselves, they put it out there for people to take from it what they will. Mass Effect 3 was a poigniont story with a powerful conclusion. It's like in Serenity, no one wanted Wash to die. But we needed him to die, we needed to be reminded that the universe isn't shiny and things don't always turn out the way we hope.
Kloborgg711 wrote...
HenchxNarf wrote...
Kloborgg711 wrote...
RaideDuku wrote...
Yep. The vast majority of pro-ending threads contain some sort of instigation, and when we respond to defend ourselves we're told "hey, be respectful". I can already name more than a few threads where someone has called new-ending supporters "idiots" while simultaneously demanding respect for their own views. The OP of this thread has already insulted quite a few people while pretending to wear the visage of mutual respect.
Because there is a majority who act like idiots. Not as a whole, but a majority. Of course, you know nothing of respect. And you know nothing about how to be civil with people who don't share the same opinion as you do.
Some of the resistance, they're doing it right. But sadly, most are not.
Perfect example of someone calling others idiots while demanding respect for their own opinions. Above is the very definition of hypocrisy, ladies and gentlemen.
"Most of you are stupid! Now stop making fun of my opinion!"
HenchxNarf wrote...
Maybe someone should go on a hunger strike. Not sure if I'm serious or not. Probably not. Could be interesting though.ShdwFox7 wrote...
effortname wrote...
Cool-headed rational argumentation has never achieved anything in the history of getting things done. People getting all up in flames over random things usually does.
*cough* Ghandi *cough*
Kloborgg711 wrote...
HenchxNarf wrote...
When you call an invented majority of a group "idiots", it's hard to believe you. Sorry.
Modifié par HenchxNarf, 18 mars 2012 - 06:32 .
HenchxNarf wrote...
Kloborgg711 wrote...
HenchxNarf wrote...
When you call an invented majority of a group "idiots", it's hard to believe you. Sorry.
The majority of your movement have proven themselves to be that way. By the way they act and by the way they attack people who aren't like minded. Again, you're fitting right in with them once more. People are allowed to speak their minds on this matter, like the OP. And most of us are getting kind of fed up with it, we want the boards back to normal so that we can actually talk about the game.
ShdwFox7 wrote...
effortname wrote...
Cool-headed rational argumentation has never achieved anything in the history of getting things done. People getting all up in flames over random things usually does.
*cough* Ghandi *cough*
HenchxNarf wrote...
Kloborgg711 wrote...
RaideDuku wrote...
Yep. The vast majority of pro-ending threads contain some sort of instigation, and when we respond to defend ourselves we're told "hey, be respectful". I can already name more than a few threads where someone has called new-ending supporters "idiots" while simultaneously demanding respect for their own views. The OP of this thread has already insulted quite a few people while pretending to wear the visage of mutual respect.
Because there is a majority who act like idiots. Not as a whole, but a majority. Of course, you know nothing of respect. And you know nothing about how to be civil with people who don't share the same opinion as you do.
Some of the resistance, they're doing it right. But sadly, most are not.
ShdwFox7 wrote...
effortname wrote...
Cool-headed rational argumentation has never achieved anything in the history of getting things done. People getting all up in flames over random things usually does.
*cough* Ghandi *cough*
Modifié par Jagri, 18 mars 2012 - 06:39 .
*cough* Christ *cough* Martin Luther King *cough*
HenchxNarf wrote...
Kloborgg711 wrote...
HenchxNarf wrote...
When you call an invented majority of a group "idiots", it's hard to believe you. Sorry.
The majority of your movement have proven themselves to be that way. By the way they act and by the way they attack people who aren't like minded. Again, you're fitting right in with them once more. People are allowed to speak their minds on this matter, like the OP. And most of us are getting kind of fed up with it, we want the boards back to normal so that we can actually talk about the game.
Computron2000 wrote...
HenchxNarf wrote...
Kloborgg711 wrote...
RaideDuku wrote...
Yep. The vast majority of pro-ending threads contain some sort of instigation, and when we respond to defend ourselves we're told "hey, be respectful". I can already name more than a few threads where someone has called new-ending supporters "idiots" while simultaneously demanding respect for their own views. The OP of this thread has already insulted quite a few people while pretending to wear the visage of mutual respect.
Because there is a majority who act like idiots. Not as a whole, but a majority. Of course, you know nothing of respect. And you know nothing about how to be civil with people who don't share the same opinion as you do.
Some of the resistance, they're doing it right. But sadly, most are not.
Ok so everyone is supposed to be measured by the standards you set or they are idiots? To help others, you might want to list down what you consider acceptable then put it into your signature like a random example i made up below
"If you do not follow the rules below, i will think you are an idiot
1) Heck, hell, ****, **** are all vulgar and not respectful. Holy **** is also very repulsive
2) Address me as Mr HenchxNarf or sir at all times. Holy one, master, and your majesty is also acceptable
3) Do not address Bioware by name. They should be referred to as the messengers of the gods"
Computron2000 wrote...
HenchxNarf wrote...
Kloborgg711 wrote...
RaideDuku wrote...
Yep. The vast majority of pro-ending threads contain some sort of instigation, and when we respond to defend ourselves we're told "hey, be respectful". I can already name more than a few threads where someone has called new-ending supporters "idiots" while simultaneously demanding respect for their own views. The OP of this thread has already insulted quite a few people while pretending to wear the visage of mutual respect.
Because there is a majority who act like idiots. Not as a whole, but a majority. Of course, you know nothing of respect. And you know nothing about how to be civil with people who don't share the same opinion as you do.
Some of the resistance, they're doing it right. But sadly, most are not.
Ok so everyone is supposed to be measured by the standards you set or they are idiots? To help others, you might want to list down what you consider acceptable then put it into your signature like a random example i made up below
"If you do not follow the rules below, i will think you are an idiot
1) Heck, hell, ****, **** are all vulgar and not respectful. Holy **** is also very repulsive
2) Address me as Mr HenchxNarf or sir at all times. Holy one, master, and your majesty is also acceptable
3) Do not address Bioware by name. They should be referred to as the messengers of the gods"
Auralius Carolus wrote...
ShdwFox7 wrote...
effortname wrote...
Cool-headed rational argumentation has never achieved anything in the history of getting things done. People getting all up in flames over random things usually does.
*cough* Ghandi *cough*
*cough* Christ *cough* Martin Luther King *cough*
Anyway, I orginally saw very few signs of poor behavior in this movement... before it could even be called a movement, really. People were more eager to lean on each other and figure out what happened.
Now, however, the venom is starting to run. The tone is less, "We care, Bioware, enough that we feel this ending is purely unbefitting of the ME franchise" and more "Do what we want or we'll boycott your company and go after your supporters".
While I'm fine with the notion of cold calculated strategy, there is a point where you have to step back and realize Bioware is involved in a mutual relationship with you. You can ask, you can influence, but when you start making demands and attacks, you've completely disgraced yourself as being a worthy partner.
Gandhi and MLK achieved their goals through a calculated means of mass gatherings, boycotting, and riling up restless behaviors. Saying they did so by "rational argumentation" is incredibly inaccurate.
Jade8aby88 wrote...
HenchxNarf wrote...
Kloborgg711 wrote...
HenchxNarf wrote...
When you call an invented majority of a group "idiots", it's hard to believe you. Sorry.
The majority of your movement have proven themselves to be that way. By the way they act and by the way they attack people who aren't like minded. Again, you're fitting right in with them once more. People are allowed to speak their minds on this matter, like the OP. And most of us are getting kind of fed up with it, we want the boards back to normal so that we can actually talk about the game.
You're such a hypocrite, you sit there and say that about us, yet even in your signature you brand all our threads sad?
Get off your pedastool before I kick out the legs.
HenchxNarf wrote...
Jade8aby88 wrote...
HenchxNarf wrote...
Kloborgg711 wrote...
HenchxNarf wrote...
When you call an invented majority of a group "idiots", it's hard to believe you. Sorry.
The majority of your movement have proven themselves to be that way. By the way they act and by the way they attack people who aren't like minded. Again, you're fitting right in with them once more. People are allowed to speak their minds on this matter, like the OP. And most of us are getting kind of fed up with it, we want the boards back to normal so that we can actually talk about the game.
You're such a hypocrite, you sit there and say that about us, yet even in your signature you brand all our threads sad?
Get off your pedastool before I kick out the legs.
Unless you have been threatening people and trolling and being an overall pain to those who speak positive, then no, I wasn't talking about you. I am speaking about those who are the bad seeds of your bunch.
GreyLord wrote...
Okay, I chuckled. He put FPS players being catered to and polite in the same post. I don't think he's ever played FPS games that much. They make what you see in these forums not just seem polite...but like one's in the presence of royalty type polite.
If there's anything, FPS players are not polite or nice. I get the impression 50-75% of them are teens or tweens...or maybe younger and just using language they see in movies some of their parents don't monitor...
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