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[Romeo Longsword]

fourthrocker wrote...

Romeo Longsword wrote...

I think the OP believes an RPG should be more like Fallout 3 or that Oblivion game where it is an open world where you can kill monsters, decide what gear you ware, buy and sell and so on.

But I think most of us here are happy for buying a game with a rich story, rather than just an open world for you to interact in, I think this is the difference, and a the point where the communication breaks down.

Wow, an intelligent response. Most here don't seem to know what RPG stands. The R stands for ROLE. As in playing a role in a game which you do in all the games I mentioned, whether they are are action, group or whatever.

You are correct partly. By words, you can
indeed interpret the meaning of RPG that way, however, in today’s gaming
culture, an RPG would means more than that just a little bit, it has a criteria
of a strong direction of story, as well as other elements to support the game
as an RPG. Game such as Diablo, or Resident Evil would not truly considered as
RPGs even though you are playing a role in their game worlds.



Another thing is that, gaming culture wise, Black isle/ Bioware has made a revolutionary
master piece named Baldur’s Gate in early 90s, which has set as an example of
how immersive story can be interpreted into computer games, and the background/
influence of such master piece is of course, from DnD; those board games where
you play with a great degree of story telling, making the story and the choices
you make in both action and dialogue highly significant and have set as a
standard of what RPG fans would look for.

 

A lot of Dragon Age fan here would demand/
expect the same.

 

I think that is the reason why you did not
enjoy the game as much as others.

Modifié par Romeo Longsword, 29 novembre 2009 - 02:40 .

[fourthrocker]

[quote]SLPr0 wrote...

[quote]fourthrocker wrote...

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Anyways, you're not some kind of diamond in the rough gaming genius, you're a transparent forum troll and thats the long and short of it.

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I've been called many things, the best was in Ultima when the game kept referring to me as a self-serving tuft hunter, but transparent forum troll is a new one.

Modifié par fourthrocker, 29 novembre 2009 - 02:41 .

[TheAmazinAsian]

Troll moar.

[Drake Sigar]

fourthrocker wrote...

Oh and I drive a 2008 Corvette so money isn't an issue LOL and I am not trolling, just telling it the way I see it. But you all are right, it's hard to write intelligently to children.

You're not old enough to drive, or even play this game for that matter. I can tell because you're basically substituting a car for penis size. "I haz a 12 inch shlong lololol!" Perhaps next you'd like to bring out the heavy artillery and respond with "that sounds suspiciously like something Hitler would say."

[DragonRageGT]

Cool... upload has finished!

Go watch my tribute to Wynne! But be warned it may contain spoilers! (just a plot cutscene + the battle - tube's still processing for the HD quality)



I'm outta here!

[RayearthEA]

I gotta admit it! The game is a big success... a marketing success, unfortunately.

None of the reviews do not mention the worst control system throughout entire game. Lame...

Another thing: 90% of dialog options, including questions cannot be used coz the conversation ends insted of going back to for ex. questions. It just ends and all recorded dialogs are not being used! That's a shame! And on top of it, payable addons - the second chance to rid all of us out of our money. The only thing I like is camp music and "I am the One" track from collector's edition bonus DVD.



You can all moan about troll moaning, but ourthrocker is right. Sorry, you got screwed! (including me because I bought the game too...)

[Fluffykeith]

"I've covered plenty of this games flaws and I catch a lot of flak for it but I'd hardly call this the worst RPG ever. I think the worst RPG ever was E.T. for the Atari 2600."



You just had to mention it, didn't you...I'm going to have flashbacks now.



Okay, fouthrocker...here's the thing. Its not a good idea to assume you know so much more than anyone else on forums, because in general you'll find that theres quite a few of us oldies wandering around the internet like Dimensional Shamblers...I remember the days of installing games with tapes and massive chunky cartridges too, you know, I remember those Space Invaders tables and the game with two white lines for bats a a splodge for the ball. Thing is...doesn't mean I'm better than everyone else.

You threw away a lot of your "I'm better" credentials when you started calling everyone else on the thread children, or insulting their language skills...surely someone as experienced as you claim to be would know that its not a great plan to throw stones if you live in a glass house, and that not everyone on the Net has English as a first language.



if you claim that any game where you play a Role is an RPG then we might as well included Doom and Halo in there, or maybe Elite if you remember that one. Its fairly safe to say that RPGs require more than that you take one the Role of a character, otherwise every game that did that would count...yet Wolfenstein didn't call itself an RPG.



As for your "critisicms" about DA:O. You say its combat is bad. Why? Expand on it, or it looks like trolling.



You DID get the whole game when you bought it. The DLCs are extra and you don't have to buy them. I haven't. I downloaded the Blood Dragon armour because I got the code with the game and thats all. I might get Wardens Keep for my second playthrough, but nowhere does it say that I "have" to have it to complete the game.



The Quest system works fine. In fact it works better than many other games. My only complaint about it is that the side quests are a bit simplistic, but the main quest system is fine. It tells you roughly what you need to do and often has a codex entry that has "setting" info in it as well, and it updates whenever the parameters of the quest change after you do something.



You can go several hours in this game without having to converse with anyone, some of the combat sections are pretty long. And what's wrong with conversation? I see lots of people whining about the amount of dialogue in the game, but its an RPG..its not Diablo, theres more to it that just combat.

[04WigmoreB]

RayearthEA wrote...

I gotta admit it! The game is a big success... a marketing success, unfortunately.
None of the reviews do not mention the worst control system throughout entire game. Lame...
Another thing: 90% of dialog options, including questions cannot be used coz the conversation ends insted of going back to for ex. questions. It just ends and all recorded dialogs are not being used! That's a shame! And on top of it, payable addons - the second chance to rid all of us out of our money. The only thing I like is camp music and "I am the One" track from collector's edition bonus DVD.

You can all moan about troll moaning, but ourthrocker is right. Sorry, you got screwed! (including me because I bought the game too...)

How did we get screwed if we enjoyed the game? Maybe you did, but definately not me .

[RayearthEA]

04WigmoreB wrote...

RayearthEA wrote...

I gotta admit it! The game is a big success... a marketing success, unfortunately.
None of the reviews do not mention the worst control system throughout entire game. Lame...
Another thing: 90% of dialog options, including questions cannot be used coz the conversation ends insted of going back to for ex. questions. It just ends and all recorded dialogs are not being used! That's a shame! And on top of it, payable addons - the second chance to rid all of us out of our money. The only thing I like is camp music and "I am the One" track from collector's edition bonus DVD.

You can all moan about troll moaning, but ourthrocker is right. Sorry, you got screwed! (including me because I bought the game too...)

How did we get screwed if we enjoyed the game? Maybe you did, but definately not me .

you did and you just cannot admit it. I feel sorry for you...

[Raint]

atleast someone is right

[DarkeTiger]

The only things I dislike about dragon age is that it's sometimes hard to click on enemies during a fight without pausing the game. Also that the character you're controlling doesn't automatically attack the nearest enemy after killing the first when you don't press anything. Not only that but installing the toolset can screw with your game by mixing up the quest IDs. I have all my dragon age folders set to read only (except for the save folders), so it's no longer an issue. Other than that it's a great game.



As for the OP, not all RPG games have to be the same, diversity is important. Also, according to your definition of RPGs, the Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat series of games are all RPGs.

[04WigmoreB]

RayearthEA wrote...

04WigmoreB wrote...

RayearthEA wrote...

I gotta admit it! The game is a big success... a marketing success, unfortunately.
None of the reviews do not mention the worst control system throughout entire game. Lame...
Another thing: 90% of dialog options, including questions cannot be used coz the conversation ends insted of going back to for ex. questions. It just ends and all recorded dialogs are not being used! That's a shame! And on top of it, payable addons - the second chance to rid all of us out of our money. The only thing I like is camp music and "I am the One" track from collector's edition bonus DVD.

You can all moan about troll moaning, but ourthrocker is right. Sorry, you got screwed! (including me because I bought the game too...)

How did we get screwed if we enjoyed the game? Maybe you did, but definately not me .

you did and you just cannot admit it. I feel sorry for you...

And I feel sorry for you, for not being able to enjoy this great game  .

[fourthrocker]

RageGT wrote...

Now, don't go saying bad things about Gothic. It is one of the best RPGs, specially I and II. 3 is good with the 900 MB community patch and Risen is the next Gothic! (don't expect much from Arcania since the Piranhas are not working on that)

Diversity is a good thing!

Gothic (3?)  would get my vote for all-time greatest if it weren't so broke that it is near impossible to finish. Everything about it is near perfect except for the quest system which had bugs. It was a sandbox type, not like Dragon Age, and that is the kind I find to be most immersive. Do what you want and go where you want, whenever you want. The combat system is also great.

Soloing my character to level 60 in WoW was almost as much fun. Having to group for raids after that was boring. Asheron's Call was fun to solo except for the death penaly and corpse chasing. Ultima Online was fun for the first year it came out too. All the online games after that that forced grouping, like Final Fantasy, weren't that much fun but D&DO was. Asheron's Call 2 seemed dead. Everquest was a camping nightmare but what a beautiful world. I am looking forward to Star Trek online and the next Final Fantasy for my PS3 which will undoubtedly be orders of magnitude better than Dragon Age in my opinion.

 

[Lil-Vinny29]

fourthrocker wrote...

FYI: RPG's that I think are great. The Gothic series despite the bugs. Demon's Souls. The king's Field series on the PS (especially the Ancient City). Final Fanatasy. Oblivion. Bioshock. Mass Effect. Dungeon Siege. Diablo. Resident Evil. Darkstone. Rune.

All of which I have played more than once and will probably play again.

Dragon Age isn't even in the same planet as these, let alone the ball park.

You dont even know what's a RPG is all about!!!

Half the game you mentionned are just hack n'slash and you forgot to mention Guild Wars in your RPG game from what you think.

Hard to recognize a real RPG game when you dont know nothing!!

[fourthrocker]

Drake Sigar wrote...

fourthrocker wrote...

Oh and I drive a 2008 Corvette so money isn't an issue LOL and I am not trolling, just telling it the way I see it. But you all are right, it's hard to write intelligently to children.

You're not old enough to drive, or even play this game for that matter. I can tell because you're basically substituting a car for penis size. "I haz a 12 inch shlong lololol!" Perhaps next you'd like to bring out the heavy artillery and respond with "that sounds suspiciously like something Hitler would say."

LOL, my first car was a mustard yellow 53 Chevy with a standard on the column which I moved to a stick on the floor.  One thing I'm not is a liar and everything I have said is the truth. And it's 8, not 12. So much envy on this thread.

Oh, and one thing I can do that liars and the not-so-intelligent can't is prove anything I say. For instance, one thing that 8's know which you don't is that you have to hold it when sitting on the throne or it gets wet.

Modifié par fourthrocker, 29 novembre 2009 - 03:23 .

[PT.Vohnsen]

Just admit id fourthrocker, this game is to hard for you.

How does it feel when the "kids" understand the quest system better than you?
Doesn't that say all about your intelligence?

Go back to your piece of junk car and have fun with it.
I sure do hope you know more about cars than RPG's.

I looooove this thread, so funny.........

[Raint]

hahaha funny one

[Cydz]

you simple said you don't like rpgs and when you play rpgs you realize you don't like them so you go to the forum and say you don't like rpgs. cool story bro.

then you list that you like other sorts of games fun for you. go play them. You listen action adventure, shooters. I heard L4D and MW2 are great.

[fourthrocker]

PT.Vohnsen wrote...

Just admit id fourthrocker, this game is to hard for you.

How does it feel when the "kids" understand the quest system better than you?
Doesn't that say all about your intelligence?

Go back to your piece of junk car and have fun with it.
I sure do hope you know more about cars than RPG's.

I looooove this thread, so funny.........

I never said it was hard, I said it was bad. And which piece of junk were you referring to? The 53 Chevy I had 40 years ago? The 66 GTO (with 3 deuces)  I had after that? The 74 and 76 Vega's that I put V6's into? The 67 Vette I built from a bare frame? Or the 2004 Mach 1 I sold to get the 2008 Vette? You need to be more specific when referring to my junk, I've had so much.

[fourthrocker]

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

fourthrocker wrote...

I never said it was hard, I said it was bad. And which piece of junk were you referring to? The 53 Chevy I had 40 years ago? The 66 GTO (with 3 deuces)  I had after that? The 74 and 76 Vega's that I put V6's into? The 67 Vette I built from a bare frame? Or the 2004 Mach 1 I sold to get the 2008 Vette? You need to be more specific when referring to my junk, I've had so much.

One thing you need to understand, Mr. Fourthrocker, is that nobody gives a f*** about what cars you've had in your life-time.

That sort of thing is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

And your cartoon was relevant? (funny though)

Modifié par fourthrocker, 29 novembre 2009 - 03:46 .

[PT.Vohnsen]

fourthrocker wrote...

PT.Vohnsen wrote...

Just admit id fourthrocker, this game is to hard for you.

How does it feel when the "kids" understand the quest system better than you?
Doesn't that say all about your intelligence?

Go back to your piece of junk car and have fun with it.
I sure do hope you know more about cars than RPG's.

I looooove this thread, so funny.........

I never said it was hard, I said it was bad. And which piece of junk were you referring to? The 53 Chevy I had 40 years ago? The 66 GTO (with 3 deuces)  I had after that? The 74 and 76 Vega's that I put V6's into? The 67 Vette I built from a bare frame? Or the 2004 Mach 1 I sold to get the 2008 Vette? You need to be more specific when referring to my junk, I've had so much.

I think this is for you: http://www.carclubtalk.com/

I don't care about the other junk cars as well, they are all pathetic.

[Juggernawt]

Cant really understand why OP has to show up here and whine about something as silly as a computer game, seeing as he's so cool that he drives an american heap of junk to his special needs class every day.

I recently purchased Gears of War 2 for my XBox360 -- it was cheap and I thought I'd try a FPS on console - the experience left me disgusted within 10 minutes as the controls are crap compared to PC. Did I go to a GoW-forum to whine about it? No, because I've at least got some sense of decorum and just chalk that game up to experience to never even try FPS-type games on a console. Maybe the OP should try something similar and just go back to playing Diablo-esque Hack'nSlash games - I hear the Sacred and Divine Divinity-games are good..