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[feroxthegreywarden]

Zahnfleisch wrote...

I agree. DA doesn't provide much immersion. In fact I don't feel like actually being the main character. Its more like I'm guiding him through the story. Games like Gothic/TES are much better in terms of immersion.
For some people this fact destroys most of the RPG fun, which is undestandable. Others don't care that much about it and enjoy the awesome story and movie-like presentation.
I would not say its a flaw for the effect depends very much on the players preference.

This is my major gripe with every bioware rpg pretty much. Even though i can't stand the modern TES games(morrowind and oblivion) I can still get immersed in world quite easily. I've never been able to do so in any of these 3rd person top down clicky clicky rpgs.  The only time I feel immersion is when i'm in dialogue or cutscenes.

I think it really just comes down to game mechanics, and I feel sorry for rpg fans who only really have ever known this style of rpg, because theres much more, and much better, out there.

[Spaceweed10]

kungfusam wrote...

You fanboys are easy to bait, I mean Resident evil being a better RPG then this?

Best if you let this thread die

You jest, right?

This thread is pure w1n - how DARE he attack our game...

'...and I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I'm The Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you'.

True story.

[TileToad]

Heals.like.Jesus wrote...

I was thinking of writing an assmbler program to act as a low level driver for my GPU. But then I started wondering if the windows 5.1.2600 kernel would allow me to insert my code, assuming that I had ring O access and that the execute disable bit functionality was disabled. Then I thought of altering the code in the hardware abstraction layer, only to realise that although it would give me my desired low-level functionality, I would have limited high-level functionality, which I also need. Any suggestions?

Wish I could help you, dude. You might have better luck on the tech forum.

[Spaceweed10]

RayearthEA wrote...

I gotta admit it! The game is a big success... a marketing success, unfortunately.
None of the reviews do not mention the worst control system throughout entire game. Lame...
Another thing: 90% of dialog options, including questions cannot be used coz the conversation ends insted of going back to for ex. questions. It just ends and all recorded dialogs are not being used! That's a shame! And on top of it, payable addons - the second chance to rid all of us out of our money. The only thing I like is camp music and "I am the One" track from collector's edition bonus DVD.

You can all moan about troll moaning, but ourthrocker is right. Sorry, you got screwed! (including me because I bought the game too...)

Utter bo11ocks - are you his boyfriend or something?

[Spaceweed10]

Heals.like.Jesus wrote...

I was thinking of writing an assmbler program to act as a low level driver for my GPU. But then I started wondering if the windows 5.1.2600 kernel would allow me to insert my code, assuming that I had ring O access and that the execute disable bit functionality was disabled. Then I thought of altering the code in the hardware abstraction layer, only to realise that although it would give me my desired low-level functionality, I would have limited high-level functionality, which I also need. Any suggestions?

A shrink?

[fourthrocker]

1Ghostlogic1 wrote...

Ehem.... Most people on this like the game....
Why else would they waste time on the social site for the game

if you dont like to game
1.) Why the *u*k are you here
2.) This is very similiar to kotor just with places on one continent rather than planets
    a.) if you didnt like that why the f*c* you buy this
3.) Yes there are 1 or 2 bugs but not any that stop enjoyment of game
4.) Why you here complaining ---> if you dont like the game go do something else, perhaps get a life

I am here because I got bored with the game real quick each time I tried to play and because i couldn't post on GameSpot where their reviews in no way prepared me for the RPG I got instead of the one I expected. This thread is more interesting right now and maybe I can get some info from some of the intelligent posts on making the game play better. Which I did.

Why are you here?

[Heals.like.Jesus]

Heals.like.Jesus wrote...

I was
thinking of writing an assmbler program to act as a low level driver
for my GPU. But then I started wondering if the windows 5.1.2600 kernel
would allow me to insert my code, assuming that I had ring O access and
that the execute disable bit functionality was disabled. Then I thought
of altering the code in the hardware abstraction layer, only to realise
that although it would give me my desired low-level functionality, I
would have limited high-level functionality, which I also need. Any
suggestions?

A shrink?

Thats not very nice, I am politely asking for help, and you respond in such a way. You, sir, have no manners and iI am deeply hurt.

Modifié par Heals.like.Jesus, 29 novembre 2009 - 05:07 .

[Spaceweed10]

Heals.like.Jesus wrote...

Heals.like.Jesus wrote...

I was
thinking of writing an assmbler program to act as a low level driver
for my GPU. But then I started wondering if the windows 5.1.2600 kernel
would allow me to insert my code, assuming that I had ring O access and
that the execute disable bit functionality was disabled. Then I thought
of altering the code in the hardware abstraction layer, only to realise
that although it would give me my desired low-level functionality, I
would have limited high-level functionality, which I also need. Any
suggestions?

A shrink?

Thats not very nice, I am politely asking for help, and you respond in such a way. You, sir, have no manners and iI am deeply hurt.

And you, 'sir', are in the wrong forum .

[fourthrocker]

PT.Vohnsen wrote...

fourthrocker wrote...

Resident Evil 1, and Tomb Raider 1 for that matter, are classics that will be played and remembered long after this game is forgotten (which will be next year).

Next year? I see...

You think this game will not be forgotten after next year? Reminds me of one day in college back around 85. The kid sitting next to me was writing Dokken on his desktop for a while, a real fanboy. I told him Dokken would be totally forgotten in a couple years. He was outraged. When was the last time anyone heard Dokken on the radio? LOL

[Spaceweed10]

fourthrocker wrote...

1Ghostlogic1 wrote...

Ehem.... Most people on this like the game....
Why else would they waste time on the social site for the game

if you dont like to game
1.) Why the *u*k are you here
2.) This is very similiar to kotor just with places on one continent rather than planets
    a.) if you didnt like that why the f*c* you buy this
3.) Yes there are 1 or 2 bugs but not any that stop enjoyment of game
4.) Why you here complaining ---> if you dont like the game go do something else, perhaps get a life

I am here because I got bored with the game real quick each time I tried to play and because i couldn't post on GameSpot where their reviews in no way prepared me for the RPG I got instead of the one I expected. This thread is more interesting right now and maybe I can get some info from some of the intelligent posts on making the game play better. Which I did.

Why are you here?

Dude, you got 'bored' with the game because you suck at gaming.

N'est pas?

[fourthrocker]

Heals.like.Jesus wrote...

Heals.like.Jesus wrote...

I was
thinking of writing an assmbler program to act as a low level driver
for my GPU. But then I started wondering if the windows 5.1.2600 kernel
would allow me to insert my code, assuming that I had ring O access and
that the execute disable bit functionality was disabled. Then I thought
of altering the code in the hardware abstraction layer, only to realise
that although it would give me my desired low-level functionality, I
would have limited high-level functionality, which I also need. Any
suggestions?

A shrink?

Thats not very nice, I am politely asking for help, and you respond in such a way. You, sir, have no manners and iI am deeply hurt.

How about .net?

[Spaceweed10]

fourthrocker wrote...

PT.Vohnsen wrote...

fourthrocker wrote...

Resident Evil 1, and Tomb Raider 1 for that matter, are classics that will be played and remembered long after this game is forgotten (which will be next year).

Next year? I see...

You think this game will not be forgotten after next year? Reminds me of one day in college back around 85. The kid sitting next to me was writing Dokken on his desktop for a while, a real fanboy. I told him Dokken would be totally forgotten in a couple years. He was outraged. When was the last time anyone heard Dokken on the radio? LOL

Forgotten in a year?  You really fail to understand the powah of teh Bioware.  This game will be around for years, as was the 'BG' series.

You have demonstrated your lack of knowledge of this industry on numerous occasions in this thread - try basket weaving?

[GhostMatter]

fourthrocker wrote..
The thing I don't like about the quests is that I could see no way to find the location for them. I went to Denerim and got all the chanters quests. 3 inside town and 3 outside. The ones inside town did not have a pointer on the mini-map like some quests inside towns do. Inconsistant. Call it hand holding but if you are going to have an in town pointer on some quests why not on all of them or none of them?

I said it before.

There is an option in settings for that. By default, it shows for explored maps only.

Modifié par GhostMatter, 29 novembre 2009 - 05:15 .

[Heals.like.Jesus]

Spaceweed10 wrote...

Heals.like.Jesus wrote...

Heals.like.Jesus wrote...

I was
thinking of writing an assmbler program to act as a low level driver
for my GPU. But then I started wondering if the windows 5.1.2600 kernel
would allow me to insert my code, assuming that I had ring O access and
that the execute disable bit functionality was disabled. Then I thought
of altering the code in the hardware abstraction layer, only to realise
that although it would give me my desired low-level functionality, I
would have limited high-level functionality, which I also need. Any
suggestions?

A shrink?

Thats not very nice, I am politely asking for help, and you respond in such a way. You, sir, have no manners and iI am deeply hurt.

And you, 'sir', are in the wrong forum .

Blimey! Surely you jest? Nay, I knew i shouldnt've followed that redirection link from Yahoo answers in regards to my inquiry about assembler programs.

Why, how could I have  thought these 8 pages of pure gibberish are a joint union of composed programmer tinkerers, I will never know.

I apologize for cluttering this otherwise splendid troll food with my nonsense.

[Romeo Longsword]

fourthrocker wrote...

PT.Vohnsen wrote...

fourthrocker wrote...

Resident Evil 1, and Tomb Raider 1 for that matter, are classics that will be played and remembered long after this game is forgotten (which will be next year).

Next year? I see...

You think this game will not be forgotten after next year? Reminds me of one day in college back around 85. The kid sitting next to me was writing Dokken on his desktop for a while, a real fanboy. I told him Dokken would be totally forgotten in a couple years. He was outraged. When was the last time anyone heard Dokken on the radio? LOL

I am very certain Dragon Age will not be
forgotten, though your example it's irrelevant.



I have a strong believe that Dragon Age will have at least one large expansion
and other online download mods (for sale) by next year.



I think rather you like a game or not its rather subjective, and your bet of
DAO will be forgotten next year or even 2 years after, its rather far fetched.



Additionally, all of us who have been posting here, we can't be all wrong about
what an RPG is, we cant be all wrong that Tomb Raider is not an RPG.

Modifié par Romeo Longsword, 29 novembre 2009 - 05:17 .

[fourthrocker]

Spaceweed10 wrote...

fourthrocker wrote...

1Ghostlogic1 wrote...

Ehem.... Most people on this like the game....
Why else would they waste time on the social site for the game

if you dont like to game
1.) Why the *u*k are you here
2.) This is very similiar to kotor just with places on one continent rather than planets
    a.) if you didnt like that why the f*c* you buy this
3.) Yes there are 1 or 2 bugs but not any that stop enjoyment of game
4.) Why you here complaining ---> if you dont like the game go do something else, perhaps get a life

I am here because I got bored with the game real quick each time I tried to play and because i couldn't post on GameSpot where their reviews in no way prepared me for the RPG I got instead of the one I expected. This thread is more interesting right now and maybe I can get some info from some of the intelligent posts on making the game play better. Which I did.

Why are you here?

Dude, you got 'bored' with the game because you suck at gaming.

N'est pas?

I owned and played more games by the time I was 35 than you will in your whole life, and that was 23 years ago.

[fourthrocker]

GhostMatter wrote...

fourthrocker wrote..
The thing I don't like about the quests is that I could see no way to find the location for them. I went to Denerim and got all the chanters quests. 3 inside town and 3 outside. The ones inside town did not have a pointer on the mini-map like some quests inside towns do. Inconsistant. Call it hand holding but if you are going to have an in town pointer on some quests why not on all of them or none of them?

I said it before.

There is an option in settings for that. By default, it shows for explored maps only.

In the PC version? I didn't see that option.

[Spaceweed10]

Heals.like.Jesus wrote...

Spaceweed10 wrote...

Heals.like.Jesus wrote...

Heals.like.Jesus wrote...

I was
thinking of writing an assmbler program to act as a low level driver
for my GPU. But then I started wondering if the windows 5.1.2600 kernel
would allow me to insert my code, assuming that I had ring O access and
that the execute disable bit functionality was disabled. Then I thought
of altering the code in the hardware abstraction layer, only to realise
that although it would give me my desired low-level functionality, I
would have limited high-level functionality, which I also need. Any
suggestions?

A shrink?

Thats not very nice, I am politely asking for help, and you respond in such a way. You, sir, have no manners and iI am deeply hurt.

And you, 'sir', are in the wrong forum .

Blimey! Surely you jest? Nay, I knew i shouldnt've followed that redirection link from Yahoo answers in regards to my inquiry about assembler programs.

Why, how could I have  thought these 8 pages of pure gibberish are a joint union of composed programmer tinkerers, I will never know.

I apologize for cluttering this otherwise splendid troll food with my nonsense.

All things considered, I think your post has more relevance than the rest of our sh!t put together - as you alluded to.

Carry on.

Enchantment?

[Emryc]

Girls are strange. They have boobs and boobs feel strange. I like boobs. I like girls. Girls with boobs, I like.

[Zenon]

So maybe you bought a game, you didn't like. Obviously this is a big surprise to most players including me. You don't need to buy anything extra to complete the game. In fact I prefer to travel faster to points of interest instead of walking back and forth for hours through the landscape to reach interesting points until I know every tree by it's first name.



But I guess that's a matter of taste.



P.S.: I recommend you don't get NWN2. Perhaps you'll enjoy ME2. Or get Drakensang or Oblivion or Risen if you don't have them yet. I must admit though, that I currently only have ME (looking forward to ME2) and NWN2 of those games mentioned.

[Fulgrim88]

feroxthegreywarden wrote...

Zahnfleisch wrote...

I agree. DA doesn't provide much immersion. In fact I don't feel like actually being the main character. Its more like I'm guiding him through the story. Games like Gothic/TES are much better in terms of immersion.
For some people this fact destroys most of the RPG fun, which is undestandable. Others don't care that much about it and enjoy the awesome story and movie-like presentation.
I would not say its a flaw for the effect depends very much on the players preference.

This is my major gripe with every bioware rpg pretty much. Even though i can't stand the modern TES games(morrowind and oblivion) I can still get immersed in world quite easily. I've never been able to do so in any of these 3rd person top down clicky clicky rpgs.  The only time I feel immersion is when i'm in dialogue or cutscenes.

I think it really just comes down to game mechanics, and I feel sorry for rpg fans who only really have ever known this style of rpg, because theres much more, and much better, out there.

Simple. The reason why it's easy to immerse in sandbox games, is that the character is pretty flat. You tend to be [the guy] from [some remote place irrelevant to the story], killing [stuff] to [save the world]. Theres no initial connection to the world and near to no background provided. Might as well be you, then.
Feel free to insert the appropiate Elder Scrolls, Gothic, Open World/Action RPG substitutes for each bracket.

This isn't meant to be a rant, btw, i enjoyed most of those games, it's just the reason why it's easier to get immersed in them.

As for the topic & OP, while i'm quite sure that you're either a sad lonely teenager, trying to make up the life he never had via google, or an even more pathetic mid-40 acting like a teen, i've had a lot of fun reading this topic.
You're wrong, you're lacking arguments, but you sure are determined^_^ Go on

[PT.Vohnsen]

fourthrocker wrote...

PT.Vohnsen wrote...

fourthrocker wrote...

Resident Evil 1, and Tomb Raider 1 for that matter, are classics that will be played and remembered long after this game is forgotten (which will be next year).

Next year? I see...

You think this game will not be forgotten after next year? Reminds me of one day in college back around 85. The kid sitting next to me was writing Dokken on his desktop for a while, a real fanboy. I told him Dokken would be totally forgotten in a couple years. He was outraged. When was the last time anyone heard Dokken on the radio? LOL

Dont come here with " I am rubber, you are glue".

Lol, you are so funny when you try to be serious.

[Sloth Of Doom]

fourthrocker wrote...

FYI: RPG's that I think are great. The Gothic series despite the bugs. Demon's Souls. The king's Field series on the PS (especially the Ancient City). Final Fanatasy. Oblivion. Bioshock. Mass Effect. Dungeon Siege. Diablo. Resident Evil. Darkstone. Rune.

I also like RPGs.  Halo was awesome, and so is L4D and do yur remember DOOM?  Awesome RPP....

[RayearthEA]

what's the point of choosing a voice type when creating a character if he/she is completly mute in the entire game? isn't this the proof that the creators have lost their mind?



I guest some1 will just paste a troll funny picture to response to that, coz that's what the real forum trolls do

[fourthrocker]

PT.Vohnsen wrote...

fourthrocker wrote...

PT.Vohnsen wrote...

fourthrocker wrote...

Resident Evil 1, and Tomb Raider 1 for that matter, are classics that will be played and remembered long after this game is forgotten (which will be next year).

Next year? I see...

You think this game will not be forgotten after next year? Reminds me of one day in college back around 85. The kid sitting next to me was writing Dokken on his desktop for a while, a real fanboy. I told him Dokken would be totally forgotten in a couple years. He was outraged. When was the last time anyone heard Dokken on the radio? LOL

Dont come here with " I am rubber, you are glue".

Lol, you are so funny when you try to be serious.

And you have your computer specs as your signature for what reason? Talk about the kettle calling the pot a name (black in case you're too young to have heard that or ever read a book).