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[coldwetn0se]

Problem is that there are some players who only romanced characters in ME2, either becuase they didn't care for the original three, or they started playing the game in ME2 (some PS3 players and others who came late into the series). It is easy to become emotionally attached to the LI's; that is sort of the point. So writing out of character for some, and completely dropping the ball on others, doesn't do the characters or the players justice. Didn't need equal screen time, just equal quality!

BTW, I am actually really glad for those that had fullfilling romance arcs. Don't wish for anyone to be unhappy with the entertainment they spend their money and time on.

[HopHazzard]

I've enjoyed the romances so far. But then I've only romanced Kaidan and Steve. Currently romancing Kaidan again with a FemShep who romanced him in ME1. I've got a Liara romance waiting for them to fix the face import bug. Apparently, I've been lucky. I've been reading through the forums and can certainly understand why people who romanced ME2 characters are feeling like they got shorted.

[Heather Cline]

Not really no. Diana Allers wasn't all that great. Traynor was okay but her romance scene broke immersion with her in the shower in her underwear and FemShep walking in fully clothed. Then there is the FemShep/Liara one where Liara is completely nude but FemShep is in her underwear. Both are immersion breaking because if your partner is nude but you are not, it makes no sense. Also the shower scene makes no sense either. This is due to the fact that unless you're high or drunk you don't shower in your underwear or in your normal clothing. You undress completely and then shower.

So no I am not happy with the romances due to lack of actual detail and taking the time to make them more believable in the romance scenes.

[Portia Cousland]

Totally over the moon happy with the Garrus romance. Kaidan's was a bit disappointing for me and Thane's was pretty non-existent. Garrus is my romance of choice but I couldn't believe they took the VS out of the game for so long. What was up with that?

I also wanted much more groveling from Kaidan for him being an ass to my Shepard but oh well - she forgave him in the end.

[draken-heart]

misoretu9 wrote...

No. I've waited all those years for a f/f romance that Casey Hudson won't cheapen by claims it's not lesbian at all, and although there is lesbian option, it's not romance at all. Just two short and pointless conversations without even one scene on Citadel that everyone else got and facepalm "hot" shower scene.

i understand your concern but looking at her job (your yeoman and warroom data collector) i doubt she finds time to get off the normandy so the shower scene make sense to me. she is busy and really thinks some time alone with her boss is good enough for her.


plus look at the underwear as being there for censorship, but actual detail in the scene. thank fox for that.

Modifié par draken-heart, 18 mars 2012 - 07:45 .

[Sporothrix]

Skullheart wrote...
Traynor and cortex have their goods moments too.

When it comes to Traynor, sure, if all you want is tasteless "hot shower girl on girl" scene. A fact that there is almost no dialogue before it, and bam!, they're suddenly together, pretty much turns it to a mere straight boy fantasy.

Unlike this, Cortez indeed received a good care from devs. But it's the usual way. Lesbians treated as male fantasy, therefore more common in tv shows, books and games, but in the end it's not considered as anything serious, and if gay male relationship is finally showed, you can be sure it will be treated with full respect.

Modifié par misoretu9, 18 mars 2012 - 07:45 .

[Xeyska]

Hell no. Thane, Jack, Miranda, and Jacob got ditched to the sidelines.

My main Shep spent the rest of the game alone after Thane died and she couldn't even mourn him properly.

[Heather Cline]

Xeyska I feel your pain about the ME2 romances getting ditched. Miranda you can do a long distance relationship and the same with Jack but it's not as satisfying as the other romances. Jacob well he cheats on your character. So I understand even if I only play femshep and romance Liara.

The romances got shafted in more area's than one. Look at my post about Traynor and Liara not only did the heterosexual ones for ME2 carry over get shafted so did the lesbian ones for ME3. It's like what they did in ME2 where they removed the s/s romance options. It angered many fans and they petitioned for it to come back. That's why we got LotSB and the lesbian romance scene with Liara.

Modifié par Heather Cline, 18 mars 2012 - 07:56 .

[Sporothrix]

draken-heart wrote...

misoretu9 wrote...

No. I've waited all those years for a f/f romance that Casey Hudson won't cheapen by claims it's not lesbian at all, and although there is lesbian option, it's not romance at all. Just two short and pointless conversations without even one scene on Citadel that everyone else got and facepalm "hot" shower scene.

i understand your concern but looking at her job (your yeoman and warroom data collector) i doubt she finds time to get off the normandy so the shower scene make sense to me. she is busy and really thinks some time alone with her boss is good enough for her.


plus look at the underwear as being there for censorship, but actual detail in the scene. thank fox for that.

And it's reasonable to think that when you work as Shadow Broker, you should have even less time, but somehow Liara manages to find free time on EVERY occasion while Normandy docks in Citadel.

[draken-heart]

misoretu9 wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

misoretu9 wrote...

No. I've waited all those years for a f/f romance that Casey Hudson won't cheapen by claims it's not lesbian at all, and although there is lesbian option, it's not romance at all. Just two short and pointless conversations without even one scene on Citadel that everyone else got and facepalm "hot" shower scene.

i understand your concern but looking at her job (your yeoman and warroom data collector) i doubt she finds time to get off the normandy so the shower scene make sense to me. she is busy and really thinks some time alone with her boss is good enough for her.


plus look at the underwear as being there for censorship, but actual detail in the scene. thank fox for that.

And it's reasonable to think that when you work as Shadow Broker, you should have even less time, but somehow Liara manages to find free time on EVERY occasion while Normandy docks in Citadel.

Glyph is why Liara can get off the Normandy, i doubt that Liara just lets him stand around, he likely takes on the more mundane issues while Liara focuses on the Reaper issue, and i doubt Samantha has a VI to help her, and EDI is not really meant for data gathering and mail notices, so i bet She has to do all the data analyzing herself.

Modifié par draken-heart, 18 mars 2012 - 07:58 .

[Sporothrix]

draken-heart wrote...

misoretu9 wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

misoretu9 wrote...

No. I've waited all those years for a f/f romance that Casey Hudson won't cheapen by claims it's not lesbian at all, and although there is lesbian option, it's not romance at all. Just two short and pointless conversations without even one scene on Citadel that everyone else got and facepalm "hot" shower scene.

i understand your concern but looking at her job (your yeoman and warroom data collector) i doubt she finds time to get off the normandy so the shower scene make sense to me. she is busy and really thinks some time alone with her boss is good enough for her.


plus look at the underwear as being there for censorship, but actual detail in the scene. thank fox for that.

And it's reasonable to think that when you work as Shadow Broker, you should have even less time, but somehow Liara manages to find free time on EVERY occasion while Normandy docks in Citadel.

Glyph is why Liara can get off the Normandy, i doubt that Liara just lets him stand around, he likely takes on the more mundane issues while Liara focuses on the Reaper issue, and i doubt Samantha has a VI to help her, and EDI is not really meant for data gathering and mail notices, so i bet She has to do all the data analyzing herself.

Remind that we're talking about fictional character. So, you try to explain why romance with Samantha is of much lower value and is much worse developed (and that's not only  a fact there's no scene on citadel, but lack of conversations as a whole - if you will try to rationalize it as well, then try to explain how Sam is suddenly in love with Shep if she doesn't know her and don't talk to her, apparenly since she's so into her work) than any other ME3 romance. OK.

On individual level you could try to rationalize it. But in the end, there's no proper lesbian romance in whole series. Casey Hudson has cheapened f/f romance with Liara, and there's not enough content when it comes to Samantha to call it a romance.

That's devs decision and fault. Not because Samantha is yeoman.

Modifié par misoretu9, 18 mars 2012 - 08:22 .

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[TomY90]

that vast majority of romances were not good at all (considering ME2 had the largest number of romances you would expect more than just hi are we still together and good glad for that.

unless your with jacob and you get dumped and act like nothing happened

The ME3 additions were pointless like why would I want to sleep with uglier version of Jessica Chobot and I get why they added Traynor and cortez as romances as options but most of the time they weren't great.

the Liara one is good, the ash one is not that good and Tali's is shocking. (makes me grateful Miranda didn't get off too badly her appearances)

[carine]

I loved Kaidan's. Jack's was meh so I went with Ashley for my M!Shep playthrough, and then Ashley's disappointed me as well.

Wish the ME2 LIs like Jack, Jacob, and Miranda got better treatment though. Jack and Miranda were my two favorite LIs for MShep and it's just depressing...

[draken-heart]

misoretu9 wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

misoretu9 wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

misoretu9 wrote...

No. I've waited all those years for a f/f romance that Casey Hudson won't cheapen by claims it's not lesbian at all, and although there is lesbian option, it's not romance at all. Just two short and pointless conversations without even one scene on Citadel that everyone else got and facepalm "hot" shower scene.

i understand your concern but looking at her job (your yeoman and warroom data collector) i doubt she finds time to get off the normandy so the shower scene make sense to me. she is busy and really thinks some time alone with her boss is good enough for her.


plus look at the underwear as being there for censorship, but actual detail in the scene. thank fox for that.

And it's reasonable to think that when you work as Shadow Broker, you should have even less time, but somehow Liara manages to find free time on EVERY occasion while Normandy docks in Citadel.

Glyph is why Liara can get off the Normandy, i doubt that Liara just lets him stand around, he likely takes on the more mundane issues while Liara focuses on the Reaper issue, and i doubt Samantha has a VI to help her, and EDI is not really meant for data gathering and mail notices, so i bet She has to do all the data analyzing herself.

Remind that we're talking about fictional character. So, you try to explain why romance with Samantha is of much lower value and is much worse developed (and that's not only  a fact there's no scene on citadel, but lack of conversations as a whole - if you will try to rationalize it as well, then try to explain how Sam is suddenly in love with Shep if she doesn't know her and don't talk to her, apparenly since she's so into her work) than any other ME3 romance. OK.

On individual level you could try to rationalize it. But in the end, there's no proper lesbian romance in whole series. Casey Hudson has cheapened f/f romance with Liara, and there's not enough content when it comes to Samantha to call it a romance.

That's devs decision and fault. Not because Samantha is yeoman.

it may be a cheapened/improper romance but it is a romance.
(Kelly was more of a fling/nonmance) diana is a fling. i would describe Samantha's romance as hero worship that turns into a mutual attraction.

[Eclipse merc]

I've very happy with Liara's romance.

[Sherbet Lemon]

Liara is my main and favorite so I'm relatively happy.  I feel really bad for Thane and Jacobmancers however.  I was also pleasantly surprised by the Garrusmance, I mean that goodbye...geez...T_T

Haven't romanced Samantha yet, but I'm looking forward to it. ^^

[draken-heart]

Village Idiot wrote...

Liara is my main and favorite so I'm relatively happy.  I feel really bad for Thane and Jacobmancers however.  I was also pleasantly surprised by the Garrusmance, I mean that goodbye...geez...T_T

Haven't romanced Samantha yet, but I'm looking forward to it. ^^

samantha's romance is ok but not on the level of Liara's in terms of emotional detail 

[WarChicken78]

I can't complain. The Tali romance is cute - a bit on the short side since she comes into play so late, but good anyway.
My FemShep is all for Garrus, who has really great scenes.
I can understand, why the Shepards who romanced Jack, Thane or Jacob are disappointed, tho.

[Grimez7]

I liked Ashley's but it could have been better, replacing the Zaeed conversations into full on radial wheel conversations would have done it for me.

[LadyofRivendell]

I'm extremely happy, I just wish there was more.

Then again, no matter how much romance content we get, I'd always be asking for more.

[Premier Bromanov]

I barely even noticed the Jack romance arc in ME3.  So, no.  Not happy.

Modifié par Premier Bromanov, 18 mars 2012 - 09:43 .

[Prism]

I find Liara's romance to be the most genuine, having a great friendship as a foundation. Tali's romance is more playful, amuzing at some points. But both are very enjoyable. Ashley's romance is pretty generic, wasn't very impressed. Can't say about the others (yet).

[thehomeworld]

I'm very happy with the Garrus x fshep romance it was perfect all the way for me the multiple points on and off ship where they comfort each other, him trying to pick her up when she says she's wearing down, even the break date was sooo sweet so Garrus. I liked the fact on this date he was still trying to make it cute for shep sense he's use to Turian dates where I can only assume that the guns would've been enough he tries to soften it up here awkwardly but I liked it that way. This romance was my first playthrough and so I was uber exited to see how the other LIs I chose would playout.

I next did tali x mshep and while I like it I'm spoiled from Garrus and fshep I think this romance was short we didn't have nearly as many comfort moments this pair had unique challenges for them the fact that their relationship wouldn't go over well with Quarains or the world as a whole, the fact one is suit bound all the time, his world is being destroyed she's fighting to get hers back now, ect I wanted to have more moments of them comforting and supporting one another, her surprising him with a break date, and more physical contact tender moments. These two are a great couple and BW shortened it up.

I'm working on Thane romance so I can't comment on it but I heard they romances just get shorter from here and BW should've made them all alien or otherwise as satisfying as the fshep x Garrus was.