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[Ghost Warrior]

This is has been blown out of proportions,I get what OP is trying to say. You'd expect people to let this go by now.

Somebody wrote that people deserved a reward for all those hours of hard work. Really? You make it sound like this is a job and you didn't enjoy playing it. You played because you liked playing it for whatever reason and now the tale has come to its end and you're not happy with the way it ended. Very sad,let's just whine about it.

[shurikenmanta]

Guys, he's not saying that feeling emotion is the issue. It's the *strength* of the emotion he's questioning. Like I said, claiming to be clinically depressed from a game ending (and people have done that) is either laughable or very worrying, depending on whether they're hamming it up or genuine.

And asking the hard questions is not trolling.

Modifié par shurikenmanta, 18 mars 2012 - 11:00 .

[Farbautisonn]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

This is has been blown out of proportions,I get what OP is trying to say. You'd expect people to let this go by now.

Somebody wrote that people deserved a reward for all those hours of hard work. Really? You make it sound like this is a job and you didn't enjoy playing it. You played because you liked playing it for whatever reason and now the tale has come to its end and you're not happy with the way it ended. Very sad,let's just whine about it.

-Peak-end rule? 

[Reofeir]

He really isn't bashing people saying "HEY GUYS DON'T FEEL EMOTIONS!", no he's more talking about people who claim depression, something that shouldn't be joked about, and anything extreme for a video game ending. Granted a great series , but as ghost warrior said...some people are saying people should be rewarded for playing a video game.
Now. I am to expect a reward for something I paid for...for entertainment. I get entertainment with the possibility of a ending that isn't to my expectations. Now I demand a new ending or reward for all my hard work? Hard work which was just me enjoying myself and possibly slacking off real world duties for enjoyment? This is the outrageous part right here folks. Not emotions we got from the ending, but how much strength in such emotions. It is kinda crazy.

[Alethir]

r00tb33r wrote...

Alethir wrote...

People seem to be annoyed that Shepard doesn't survive any ending. Need to pay more attention then.

I think you need to pay more attention.  Every ending destroys the mass relay network, meaning everyone is ****ed.  Meaning that there was no ****ing point uniting the galaxy as those different races will not see each other for a very long time, all will be long forgotten.

To hell with this, just watch this video, it will explain:
www.youtube.com/watch

I don't need a video to explain, I understood the ending perfectly. That's your interpretation of the ending, that everyone is screwed because of the Mass Relays being destroyed. I've read the arguement of how destroying the relays would mean destroying everyone. I don't see how. There was speculation on the amount of damage it would cause being compared to a super nova, but that was just speculation as nobody had ever destroyed one until the Alpha Relay. Sure it wiped out an entire system, but clearly it was a very small system as only a few hundred thousand Batarians died. Compare that to the 11 billion people that are on Earth alone gives you an idea of how much bigger the Sol system must be compared to the Batarian one. So I don't believe destroying the Mass Relays would kill everyone, it only ended their ability to travel across the Galaxy and basically start again wherever they may be.

I think that is the whole point of the entire storyline, life became too advanced and created synthetics/AI's who ended up coming back to bite us in the ass. Destroying that, all of it, was the only way for life to learn and rebuild, from the beginning.

To say all will be forgotten is also untrue, if you watched after the credits the part where the small boy and his (I presume father or grandfather) are both looking up at the stars, the man is telling the boy the story of Commander Shepard. Who's  to say these tales don't inpire this child, and he will grow up to fight and make sure that life doesn't make the same mistakes that it made in the past? Basically it leaves it wide open for your own interpretation.

[Everwarden]

brgillespie wrote...

To think that a piece of entertainment could actually depress a person is incredibly sad. The ending is... well, it is what it is.

I found the ending to be more hilarious than depressing. The fact still remains: Bioware outright lied about what the ending of Mass Effect 3 would be and what we got was awful. If they want to keep their customers they should fix it. If not, it's fine. I'm not crying, or shaking my fist in anger, I'm pointing and laughing (and donating a few dollars to charity to make a point). 

[Ghost Warrior]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

This is has been blown out of proportions,I get what OP is trying to say. You'd expect people to let this go by now.

Somebody wrote that people deserved a reward for all those hours of hard work. Really? You make it sound like this is a job and you didn't enjoy playing it. You played because you liked playing it for whatever reason and now the tale has come to its end and you're not happy with the way it ended. Very sad,let's just whine about it.

-Peak-end rule? 

That sh*t again?  Yeah,people tend to get emotional and react that way. I did too when I finished the game,I was angry and I thought I'll never play any Mass Effect again. Then I started using another thing that humans have (brain),and realized that those 5 minutes don't undo all those hours of fun.

Pull your heads out of your as*es.

[MissMaster_2]

HOLD THE LINE

[bennyjammin79]

I agree that it's pretty ridiculous.

[linsanity]

OP I understand your statement but it has two flaws
1) it dosnt matter if you are trying to help, its just coming across as inflamitory.
2) Emotional attachemnt is what it is. I think I have a life and a good one at that, car, house, friends, family, job, pets, hopes dreams etc.. I am still HURT by this game, you cant just choose to not feel anything, if a long relationship with someone ends on a bad note you cant always just 'not feel anything'
I mean unless you're a robot... or a reaper.

[shurikenmanta]

Of course it's natural to feel something. My housemate was frustrated at the ending for a while, and I was sitting there going 'huh' for about five minutes afterwards, but it faded and it certainly didn't clinically depress me. It wasn't a patch on my last long-term relationship ending, which messed me up for a year. They don't even compare.

Modifié par shurikenmanta, 18 mars 2012 - 11:49 .

[linsanity]

I wont deny.
I am very depressed over this, but I think it will mature into anger more then clinical depression.

[Farbautisonn]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

That sh*t again?  Yeah,people tend to get emotional and react that way. I did too when I finished the game,I was angry and I thought I'll never play any Mass Effect again. Then I started using another thing that humans have (brain),and realized that those 5 minutes don't undo all those hours of fun.

Pull your heads out of your as*es.

-Yep. That ****e again. And you have a brain? Grats? You can use it too? Grats? 

Thanks for your advice, but I do not take advice from people who call me "childish" and then resort to ad hominems. I think thats the "pot vs kettle" deal but Im sure your "brain" tells you otherwise.

[Ghost Warrior]

Farbautisonn wrote...

-Yep. That ****e again. And you have a brain? Grats? You can use it too? Grats? 

Thanks for your advice, but I do not take advice from people who call me "childish" and then resort to ad hominems. I think thats the "pot vs kettle" deal but Im sure your "brain" tells you otherwise.

Well I'm sorry I can't play nice and talk reasonably with unreasonable people with unreasonable demands. I am truly sorry,I am out of patience for your type.

[MissMaster_2]

Nope gonna hold the line.

[Baine10]

brgillespie wrote...

To think that a piece of entertainment could actually depress a person is incredibly sad. The ending is... well, it is what it is.

But to engender feelings of anguish and despair, leaving you shaking your fists in rage? Seriously? It may be a stereotype to say this, but... you know. Go outside. Foster relationships with actual people. Soak up some sunshine. It's just a videogame. If you feel it is more than that, consider reevaluating your lifestyle, because you've lost yourself in a fantasy world.

Way to slap people in the face. You realize you're on the internet right? Why are you here if you can't accept the fact that some love this environment?

The game has fostered emotional attachments to it from the players. It's just that kind of game. Like a good piece of literature that can make you cry, Mass Effect can do that to the same degree.

Do you call book readers introverts? Tell them to fry themselves at the beach for a few days? How dare you assume people who ae angry over the endings don't have real relationships with "ACTUAL PEOPLE??" It's a video game, a very good one and people are sad to see it ruined by a horrible ending inconsistent with the quality and depth put into the trilogy.

So, get off your god forsaken high horse and stop talking like a you know better. I'm saying this because like it or not, the way you're saying things, more offensive inferrences can be made, and i know you're not making that complex a statement with undertones of loathing. Be more HUMBLE.

Thanks.

[Favourite store on the CitadeI]

brgillespie wrote...

To think that a piece of entertainment could actually depress a person is incredibly sad. The ending is... well, it is what it is.

But to engender feelings of anguish and despair, leaving you shaking your fists in rage? Seriously? It may be a stereotype to say this, but... you know. Go outside. Foster relationships with actual people. Soak up some sunshine. It's just a videogame. If you feel it is more than that, consider reevaluating your lifestyle, because you've lost yourself in a fantasy world.

LMAO

[Ghost Warrior]

MissMaster_2 wrote...

Nope gonna hold the line.

Hold it for as long as you want,I doubt it will help.

If BioWare does it,they are dooming themselves. Whenever someone doesn't like a part of their game in the future,they'll demand a DLC that changes it. Forums will be flooded with petitions to change this and that. People will believe that players have right to dictate how writers write their story.

DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING BIOWARE! The endings were lame,but it's how you did it and how it should remain. A lot of other developers would say "no" to this ridiculous demands a long time ago.

Modifié par Ghost Warrior, 18 mars 2012 - 12:46 .

[Farbautisonn]

Ghost Warrior wrote...
Well I'm sorry I can't play nice and talk reasonably with unreasonable people with unreasonable demands. I am truly sorry,I am out of patience for your type.

-And yet you demand that the fans that are "out of patience" with bioware conduct their behavior "reasonably and with reasonable" demands. Gotcha.

What is "reasonable demands" anyway? To me thats a highly fluid and subjective term. To me a "reasonable demand" would be a game that sticks to its own logic and lore, does what was promised and doesnt insult my intelligence. Whats a "reasonable demand" to you? 

[Super.Sid]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

Nope gonna hold the line.

Hold it for as long as you want,I doubt it will help.

If BioWare does it,they are dooming themselves. Whenever someone doesn't like a part of their game in the future,they'll demand a DLC that changes it. Forums will be flooded with petitions to change this and that. People will believe that players have right to dictate how writers write their story.

DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING BIOWARE! The endings were lame,but it's how you did it and how it should remain. A lot of other developers would say "no" to this ridiculous demands a long time ago.

They had quoted the game as "your story" while advertising. False advertising is the reason most of them are complaining. The other reason is emotional attachment.

[daemoxn]

brgillespie wrote...
To think that a piece of entertainment could actually depress a person is incredibly sad.

Movies? Books? Music? Theatre? You really should have worded this better.More than bit of entertainment is -intended- to provoke the low emotions. Most just don't leave you down there. Poor form, and whatnot.

[Farbautisonn]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

Nope gonna hold the line.

Hold it for as long as you want,I doubt it will help.

If BioWare does it,they are dooming themselves. Whenever someone doesn't like a part of their game in the future,they'll demand a DLC that changes it. Forums will be flooded with petitions to change this and that. People will believe that players have right to dictate how writers write their story.

DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING BIOWARE! The endings were lame,but it's how you did it and how it should remain. A lot of other developers would say "no" to this ridiculous demands a long time ago.

People allready have asserted that Playters have that right. They have done it before. Not just with major writers in history, but bio themselves have recognized that one of their own products was so crap it needed to be "revisited". Its not a first. Not even for Bioware.

[redplague]

brgillespie wrote...

To think that a piece of entertainment could actually depress a person is incredibly sad. The ending is... well, it is what it is.

But to engender feelings of anguish and despair, leaving you shaking your fists in rage? Seriously? It may be a stereotype to say this, but... you know. Go outside. Foster relationships with actual people. Soak up some sunshine. It's just a videogame. If you feel it is more than that, consider reevaluating your lifestyle, because you've lost yourself in a fantasy world.

You have no soul.

[Xilizhra]

If BioWare does it,they are dooming themselves. Whenever someone doesn't like a part of their game in the future,they'll demand a DLC that changes it. Forums will be flooded with petitions to change this and that. People will believe that players have right to dictate how writers write their story.

I for one welcome this. It should be fascinating to see.

[Ghost Warrior]

Super.Sid wrote...
They had quoted the game as "your story" while advertising. False advertising is the reason most of them are complaining. The other reason is emotional attachment.

Your story within limits. You decide whether Shepard or the geth lives or dies,you decide whether the krogan raise again or remain shackled by genophage.In ME2 you also decide whether the Collector base is destroyed or given to Cerberus,you can't do anything you want with it.

Choice within limits.