RShara wrote...
Culling]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culling]Culling
Also doesn't meet the definition of what the Reapers are doing, since they are not breeding or trying for some specific criteria (which would actually be more cool and make more sense. The entire galaxy is their laboratory and they come every 50k yrs to check on their experiments).
Genera1Nemesis wrote...
RShara wrote...
Culling]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culling]Culling
Also doesn't meet the definition of what the Reapers are doing, since they are not breeding or trying for some specific criteria (which would actually be more cool and make more sense. The entire galaxy is their laboratory and they come every 50k yrs to check on their experiments).
They are kinda breeding; they create new Reapers with the harvested DNA of each species.
Golden_Boy187 wrote...
so one may only know this for the price of 10 bucks.........and bioware said this DLC will not have a impact on the story.Kelgair wrote...
Golden_Boy187 wrote...
3. what synthetic life form was a threat in the last cycle? what Geth type enemy were the Protheans fighting?
Ah found it.
A Paperback Hero wrote...
Justicar wrote...
Reaping is like gardening.
You destroy something so it can be preserved and flourish again.
Glad sentient organic existence is so valid that it's treated like a non-sentient garden. I guess thats a good conclusion since we could possibly assume that the star child is omnipotent and would look down on organics like a garden.
RShara wrote...
Genera1Nemesis wrote...
RShara wrote...
Culling]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culling]Culling
Also doesn't meet the definition of what the Reapers are doing, since they are not breeding or trying for some specific criteria (which would actually be more cool and make more sense. The entire galaxy is their laboratory and they come every 50k yrs to check on their experiments).
They are kinda breeding; they create new Reapers with the harvested DNA of each species.
Breeding as their goal would also be cool.
tobito113 wrote...
A Paperback Hero wrote...
Justicar wrote...
Reaping is like gardening.
You destroy something so it can be preserved and flourish again.
Glad sentient organic existence is so valid that it's treated like a non-sentient garden. I guess thats a good conclusion since we could possibly assume that the star child is omnipotent and would look down on organics like a garden.
From the point of view of the reapers, we are not much more sentient/inteligent than pigs and cows (that we breed for the sake of killing) so they have just as much moral obligation to see us a precious creatures than we have to our farm animals.
RShara wrote...Also doesn't meet the definition of what the Reapers are doing, since they are not breeding or trying for some specific criteria .
Modifié par JeosDinas, 18 mars 2012 - 12:59 .
Still information i think every mass effect player should know giving the importance of the Protheans and their history in the game.Kelgair wrote...
Golden_Boy187 wrote...
so one may only know this for the price of 10 bucks.........and bioware said this DLC will not have a impact on the story.Kelgair wrote...
Golden_Boy187 wrote...
3. what synthetic life form was a threat in the last cycle? what Geth type enemy were the Protheans fighting?
Ah found it.
It doesn't, you're never given the option to actually throw Legion out an airlock. It's just a nifty tidbit of information that just happens to apply for this discussion.
Genera1Nemesis wrote...
tobito113 wrote...
A Paperback Hero wrote...
Justicar wrote...
Reaping is like gardening.
You destroy something so it can be preserved and flourish again.
Glad sentient organic existence is so valid that it's treated like a non-sentient garden. I guess thats a good conclusion since we could possibly assume that the star child is omnipotent and would look down on organics like a garden.
From the point of view of the reapers, we are not much more sentient/inteligent than pigs and cows (that we breed for the sake of killing) so they have just as much moral obligation to see us a precious creatures than we have to our farm animals.
Again, they don't see it as killing you. They are going to turn you into a Reaper, and in doing so they actually in a twisted way see you as their equal once you have 'ascended."
MrGPhantome wrote...
Last point and I'm out of here. I didn't realize that so many people would be as, for a lack of a better word, dumb, as they are.
The premise is bad. You can try and add all the superfluous details like "Synthetic/organic hybrid" or replace kill with "preserve." It doesn't change the badness of the core premise.
I can't believe I have to say it like this, but:
BAD THINGS KILL THE GOOD THINGS SO THAT BAD THINGS DON'T KILL GOOD THINGS.
That is the premise of Mass Effect 3. It's a flawed contradicting premise which lead to the bull**** motivation of the catalyst and therefore the absolutely unacceptable ending.
Modifié par alek2702, 18 mars 2012 - 01:10 .
Specifically, culling doesn't apply because they are not looking for any specific criteria in the races they hunt to be preserved. They wipe the slate clean.JeosDinas wrote...
RShara wrote...Also doesn't meet the definition of what the Reapers are doing, since they are not breeding or trying for some specific criteria .
Your latter statement is actually false here. The specific criteria is not biological in this case, but technological. Furthermore, you're fundamentally ignoring that the goal is, to all intents and purposes, population stabilization. Which is very often the goal of state hunting regulations (as opposed to, say, a more eugenics/farming based goal of controlling traits in the the population). But even then, the Reaper's actions also are done to ensure specifical traits are present and others are not. These things are simply, again, not measured biologically.
tobito113 wrote...
Genera1Nemesis wrote...
tobito113 wrote...
A Paperback Hero wrote...
Justicar wrote...
Reaping is like gardening.
You destroy something so it can be preserved and flourish again.
Glad sentient organic existence is so valid that it's treated like a non-sentient garden. I guess thats a good conclusion since we could possibly assume that the star child is omnipotent and would look down on organics like a garden.
From the point of view of the reapers, we are not much more sentient/inteligent than pigs and cows (that we breed for the sake of killing) so they have just as much moral obligation to see us a precious creatures than we have to our farm animals.
Again, they don't see it as killing you. They are going to turn you into a Reaper, and in doing so they actually in a twisted way see you as their equal once you have 'ascended."
No, they kill "people", what they dont kill is "the species", they dont cause extinction (in their view) but they obviously murder individuals
Modifié par Ranicus56, 18 mars 2012 - 01:07 .
Ranicus56 wrote...
In my opinion: Yes reapers are organic and synthetic but they are
controlled by a synthetic AI. So the god kid is doing what he dosen't
want. He talks about chaos but it is he who is making the most chaos to
begin with.
Maybe he wasn't programed right. Maybe his creators
were a bit crazy, or his programing started to slip over time. He could be right. We don't
know. All in all i don't think we will ever know. But in my eyes there
are alot of plot-holes in the ending or we don't unstand. Ether way we
are f***ed.
Plz remember that this is just my opinion and i'm not trying to make you understand. And i like to read other peoples opinions, but i do not hate them for theres. so plz don't hate on mine [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]
RShara wrote...
Specifically, culling doesn't apply because they are not looking for any specific criteria in the races they hunt to be preserved. They wipe the slate clean.JeosDinas wrote...
RShara wrote...Also doesn't meet the definition of what the Reapers are doing, since they are not breeding or trying for some specific criteria .
Your latter statement is actually false here. The specific criteria is not biological in this case, but technological. Furthermore, you're fundamentally ignoring that the goal is, to all intents and purposes, population stabilization. Which is very often the goal of state hunting regulations (as opposed to, say, a more eugenics/farming based goal of controlling traits in the the population). But even then, the Reaper's actions also are done to ensure specifical traits are present and others are not. These things are simply, again, not measured biologically.
They're also not trying to control a population, but wipe it clean.
Culling is the process of removing breeding animals from a group
based on specific criteria. This is done either to reinforce certain
desirable characteristics or to remove certain undesirable
characteristics from the group. For livestock and wildlife alike, culling usually implies the killing of the removed animals .
RShara wrote...
Specifically, culling doesn't apply because they are not looking for any specific criteria in the races they hunt to be preserved.
RShara wrote...
They're also not trying to control a population, but wipe it clean.
Maimh wrote...
Could we clarify something here?
Are the Reaper consensus that synthetic will kill all sapient organic life, or all organic life?
Because I find it odd that a group of synthetics should hate organic life so much that they would set out to kill all bacteria.
piemanz wrote...
RShara wrote...
Specifically, culling doesn't apply because they are not looking for any specific criteria in the races they hunt to be preserved. They wipe the slate clean.JeosDinas wrote...
RShara wrote...Also doesn't meet the definition of what the Reapers are doing, since they are not breeding or trying for some specific criteria .
Your latter statement is actually false here. The specific criteria is not biological in this case, but technological. Furthermore, you're fundamentally ignoring that the goal is, to all intents and purposes, population stabilization. Which is very often the goal of state hunting regulations (as opposed to, say, a more eugenics/farming based goal of controlling traits in the the population). But even then, the Reaper's actions also are done to ensure specifical traits are present and others are not. These things are simply, again, not measured biologically.
They're also not trying to control a population, but wipe it clean.
It's more of a technological cull.Culling is the process of removing breeding animals from a group
based on specific criteria. This is done either to reinforce certain
desirable characteristics or to remove certain undesirable
characteristics from the group. For livestock and wildlife alike, culling usually implies the killing of the removed animals .
The undisireable charactaristic being the thechnologcal advancement that leads to the creation of synthetics. Leaving the non advanced races to evolve.
RShara wrote...
To kill the organic life that is capable of creating synthetic life.
They leave the yahg alone, for example, even though they are sapient.
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