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[MrGPhantome]

111987 wrote...

But not all at once. Which is the distinction.

And with that, I take my leave.

That's the thing, there is no distintion.

[A Paperback Hero]

Orkboy wrote...

111987 wrote...


I am going to try and explain this one more time, before giving this up as a lost cause.

Synthetics kill SPACE-FARING organics to make sure OTHER synthetics don't kill ALL organics.

These aren't 'semantics'. This is a fundamentally different premise than the one you are trying to pass off.

Reapers turn up and kill all space fairing races and leave the none-space faring ones...

Over the next 50,000 years those non-space fairing races become extinct or become space faring races and new races emerge from the primordial ooze...

Reapers turn up and kill all space fairing races and leave the none-space faring ones...

Over the next 50,000 years those non-space fairing races become extinct or become space faring races and new races emerge from the primordial ooze...

Reapers turn up and ...



Nope, don't get your point...  Wether it's this cycle or the next, the Reapers will wipe out all races of organics at some point in time.

The fact's don't lie. I fail to see how a 'Husk' is an ascended human since they don't seem to be acting in any logical manner and just run at you like a mindless zombie. Yet the space boy himself points the Husk's out. Its ridiculous. Even more motivation for the galactic races to fight back and avoid 'ascension' as they get turned into blue bots with a peanut brain.

[CavScout]

111987 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

111987 wrote...

RShara wrote...

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Rachni Wars

This is why you shouldn't rely on the wikis for everything.

www.youtube.com/watch-ME2 Rachni Queen Message

www.youtube.com/watch-ME1 Rachni Queen Conversation, at the part where Rachni Queen implies indoctrination

You miss the part when asked if the Reapers and the answer is "I can't say for sure..."

Speculation....

It's pretty HEAVILY implied...I would think that everything wouldn't need to be spoonfed to the player.

I guess if we ignore the fact that the queen wasn't even born during the war and that we are explicitly told that we don't know if it was the reapers...

[RShara]

For an "immortal" race of beings to care about time. Hmmm. The end result is the same, what does it matter at what point it occurs?

[CavScout]

MrGPhantome wrote...

RShara wrote...
What I've been tryign to say for 3 pages now

It's like talking to a brick wall made of Bioware fandom and n7 sweaters.

Ahh, here come the "if you're not with us, you're against us" post with the accompanying insults.

[MalevoIence]

Heathen Pride wrote...

MalevoIence wrote...

Wait..... thought Reapers were both synthetic and organic, using the us to create themselves, hence the human reaper

Yeah..I suppose they are. But they're controlled by Space Boy as we learn at the end, so they may as well be mindless golems that bend to the will of Space Boy.

My point is, they're not entirely synthetic, they're a hybrid

[RShara]

CavScout, please reply to the post. I've been asking you and the other poster about it for 3 pages.

[MrGPhantome]

CavScout wrote...

Ahh, here come the "if you're not with us, you're against us" post with the accompanying insults.

Don't take it so personally. The N7 sweater part was for good humor.

Your still wrong though.

Modifié par MrGPhantome, 18 mars 2012 - 11:39 .

[Mhgasa]

MrGPhantome wrote...

I just want everyone to absorb the title of the thread... and realize how insanely retarded that is.

That's the ending in a nutshell dipped in dog ****.

Please don't praise this premise of a story.

Kiff, we have a conundrum!!

[CavScout]

MrGPhantome wrote...

111987 wrote...

But not all at once. Which is the distinction.

And with that, I take my leave.

That's the thing, there is no distintion.

You don't see the difference between killing ALL organic life and just killing off the advanced civilizations leaving the lessers alone for the next 50,000 years? You don't, or won't see?

[A Paperback Hero]

Mhgasa wrote...

MrGPhantome wrote...

I just want everyone to absorb the title of the thread... and realize how insanely retarded that is.

That's the ending in a nutshell dipped in dog ****.

Please don't praise this premise of a story.

Kiff, we have a conundrum!!

MrGPhantome is just saying how it is. Its literally is dog **** of a deus ex machina ending.

[saracen16]

Orkboy wrote...

Nope, don't get your point... Wether it's this cycle or the next, the Reapers will wipe out all races of organics at some point in time.

And what happens between these cycles? Evolution. It has been made clear by several characters in game including Vendetta on Thessia.

Or were you not paying attention?

[MrGPhantome]

CavScout wrote...
You don't see the difference between killing ALL organic life and just killing off the advanced civilizations leaving the lessers alone for the next 50,000 years? You don't, or won't see?

There is nothing to see because the point is non existant. It doesn't disprove the crap premise that the ending is built upon. Adding details doesn't change the fact that it's bad.

A **** sandwhich will still taste like **** no matter how much ketup, mayonnaisse and relish you put on it.

[RShara]

They all end up dead. The end result is the same. What's the point of preserving something, only to kill it a little while later?
If they were trying for genetic diversity in their own species, letting younger races grow up and diversify would make sense.
For immortal space faring beings who want to "preserve" organic life, by killing it, killing now or later, it's still killing all organic life.

If they gave the organic+synthetic life a chance to prove its ways BEFORE they began killing, that would be a different matter. But they're on a timer. 50k yrs, okay time to die.

If they were trying to STUDY organic life, that would also make sense.

Modifié par RShara, 18 mars 2012 - 11:42 .

[A Paperback Hero]

CavScout wrote...

MrGPhantome wrote...

111987 wrote...

But not all at once. Which is the distinction.

And with that, I take my leave.

That's the thing, there is no distintion.

You don't see the difference between killing ALL organic life and just killing off the advanced civilizations leaving the lessers alone for the next 50,000 years? You don't, or won't see?

There is no distinction because life still has absolutely no future every 50k years. So your dumb this cycle next cycle your smart go to the headsman. What is the point of existence under these terms. It has absolutely no value what so ever.

[JeosDinas]

Threads like these convince me that people either don't pay full attention to the game as they are playing it or willfully create strawman arguments just for the sheer hell of it. The fact that the thread title fundamentally gets in game information incorrect should tell us all we need to know.

[Tasker]

111987 wrote...

But not all at once. Which is the distinction.

And with that, I take my leave.

Makes no difference.

With the Reapers at some point ALL life in the galaxy will be wiped out anyway, it'll just be staggerd.

The Reapers will wipe your race out  FOR CERTAIN  within 100,000 years, regardless of what you do.

Homemade Synthetics  MIGHT  wipe out your race if you treat them like crap.

No point saving organics from the synthetics at all if you're just going to wipe them out anyway.

Not to mention... How the F&^$ does starchild know synthetics are going to wipe life out anyway.  Unless he can see the future - highly doubtfull - then he's just killing everyone going off guesswork.

[CavScout]

MrGPhantome wrote...

CavScout wrote...
You don't see the difference between killing ALL organic life and just killing off the advanced civilizations leaving the lessers alone for the next 50,000 years? You don't, or won't see?

There is nothing to see because the point is non existant. It doesn't disprove the crap premise that the ending is built upon. Adding details doesn't change the fact that it's bad.

A **** sandwhich will still taste like **** no matter how much ketup, mayonnaisse and relish you put on it.

Is this where you shift the goal posts when your original premise is proven untenable? Don't stick your fingers in your ears to hard, I wouldn't want to see anyone hurt!

[Raxxman]

CavScout wrote...

111987 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

111987 wrote...

RShara wrote...

...
Rachni Wars

This is why you shouldn't rely on the wikis for everything.

www.youtube.com/watch-ME2 Rachni Queen Message

www.youtube.com/watch-ME1 Rachni Queen Conversation, at the part where Rachni Queen implies indoctrination

You miss the part when asked if the Reapers and the answer is "I can't say for sure..."

Speculation....

It's pretty HEAVILY implied...I would think that everything wouldn't need to be spoonfed to the player.

I guess if we ignore the fact that the queen wasn't even born during the war and that we are explicitly told that we don't know if it was the reapers...

Rachni have genetic memory. So the queen not being born has no bearing on her ability to know what happend as long as one of her direct ancestors was.

It's fairly heavily implied, but that's as far as it goes.

[MrGPhantome]

CavScout wrote...
Is this where you shift the goal posts when your original premise is proven untenable? Don't stick your fingers in your ears to hard, I wouldn't want to see anyone hurt!

I see you've run out of arguments, should I consider this your concession?

[lltoon]

Dodos and sharks will always be hunted down to extinction because of the delicacy of their meat. So in order to save them, we kill the remaining dodos and stuff them like glorified taxidermists. That way the memory of the dodos are preserved and it leaves new room for other animals to appear, until they get hunted to extinction again, which continues the cycle.

The only way to solve this is for the dodos to fuse with mankind. Which will end the cycle of poaching.

My solution is

1. Grab the give-up bars to control the humans, but all the tress in the world will burn up.

2. Jump into the beam of give-up, fusing dodos and humans. The final evolution. All the trees will still burn up though.

3. Peck your beak at the tubes of give-up, releasing AIDs that will kill all humans. All the trees will still burn though.



What would Commander dodo do?

[MrGPhantome]

JeosDinas wrote...
Threads like these convince me that people either don't pay full attention to the game as they are playing it or willfully create strawman arguments just for the sheer hell of it. The fact that the thread title fundamentally gets in game information incorrect should tell us all we need to know.

Well your post tells me that you don't know what a premise is.

[A Paperback Hero]

Orkboy wrote...

111987 wrote...

But not all at once. Which is the distinction.

And with that, I take my leave.

Makes no difference.

With the Reapers at some point ALL life in the galaxy will be wiped out anyway, it'll just be staggerd.

The Reapers will wipe your race out  FOR CERTAIN  within 100,000 years, regardless of what you do.

Homemade Synthetics  MIGHT  wipe out your race if you treat them like crap.

No point saving organics from the synthetics at all if you're just going to wipe them out anyway.

Not to mention... How the F&^$ does starchild know synthetics are going to wipe life out anyway.  Unless he can see the future - highly doubtfull - then he's just killing everyone going off guesswork.

You missed Star Jesus's Story. Synth's tried to destroy them during their cycle and yet somehow they prevailed and lived on (or we wouldn't have space boy at all). SOOOOO since his race barely won, he now gets to dictate to the other organics that they are incapable of his feet and get to be systematically irradicated every 50k years. Ahhhh the contradictions.

[CavScout]

RShara wrote...

They all end up dead. The end result is the same.

Culling some organics while leaving others to live = / = Killing all organics so none are left alive

[A Paperback Hero]

CavScout wrote...

RShara wrote...

They all end up dead. The end result is the same.

Culling some organics while leaving others to live = / = Killing all organics so none are left alive

And yet culling each organic over time systematically = all organic life dead anyway.

No future no point. No freedom to dictate their own demise synthetic or not = no point as well.

Modifié par A Paperback Hero, 18 mars 2012 - 11:48 .