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[grimlock122]

 ahhhh! zombies

[Getorex]

Gryphon7 wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

Can we just have a plausible alien species that actually looks alien without worrying about how "hot" they are for chrissakes?

If THAT was going to be the way it was then NONE of the aliens would be "hot" and a possible love interest.  Nobody bangs a spider, no matter how "intelligent".  They don't bang Pierson's Puppeteers either.  

The game isn't about realism.  NONE of the aliens would be able to mate with any other any more than a bird can mate with a dog on earth (only worse because they wouldn't share ANY similar DNA, let alone proteins).

Don't get crazy with the realism in aliens thing.  Not in this game.

After that, we might as well get picky about physics and natural laws too.  But we cannot because then the game would become a much more technical game in the HARD scifi genre.  There wouldn't be Mass Relays, the Mass Effect, eezo, etc.  No game series at all. 

That entire argument is a nonsensical slippery slope. What you're saying is "I don't want plausible aliens because I, personally, want all of them to be sexy."

The fact that Garrus is so popular disproves your premise. And no one would be forcing you to use the romance mechanic if (the humanity!) the aliens aren't sexy enough for your tastes.

Not really.  The whole Garrus thing is a chick thing.  Generally less into looks and more into the emotional thing.

It is simply a fact that Bioware was NOT aiming for realistic aliens in ME.  They COULD have and it would have been a totally different game.  It could have been fine that way, sure, but that isn't how it was written.  The designed from day 1 the asari to be hot chicks who could mate with anything.  Scientifically that is nonsense but so is eezo.  

Maybe someone somewhere will do an RPG HARD scifi game with realistic aliens and everyone will keep their willies confined to their own species.  That isn't ME though...

With the exception of Asari, all of the alien races we're presented with, aside from the majority being bipedal and humanoidish, are suitably "alien" looking to be "possible".

Asari's "mating" ability isn't scientifically impossible. Just because we haven't observed it, doesn't mean it isn't impossible. Burden of proof and all that.

The image that's floating around of a fully rendered Tali in this thread is, in fact, one of the most plausible concepts that's been presented. It fits established lore (hair and ears and none of the older asari mentioning similarities between humans and quarians) and in game commentary (Grunt).

Seriously now. Anything would have been better than what we got. It's the epitome of ****ing lazy.

\\No.  The asari mating thing IS impossible.  You don't have to observe it.  DNA ON EARTH is made of only 4 bases (adenine, guanine, cytosine, thymidine).  There are a LOT of other bases that could be used.  The DNA backbone is deoxyribose.  There are alternatives to that too.  Then there is how the DNA codes for anything (triplets signifying one amino acid).  There is no rule on this last part but on earth, virtually EVERY living thing uses the same triplets for the same amino acids (not entirely but virtually so).  This is only due to we all having the same common ancestor.  There is no natural law that requires that ATG code for methionine.  There is no natural law that says a TAA codon means "stop".  There is nothing that requires only the 20 (21 actually, counting the oddball selenocysteine...used rarely) amino acids we use to be used universally.  There are a buttload of different amino acids.  

So, there is NO WAY that any alien species not DIRECTLY related to earth life will use the same bases in DNA.  Even if they did use the same bases, there is NO WAY IN HELL they use the same codons, same amino acids, etc.  Thus, it is IMPOSSIBLE for the asari mating thing to work.  They could NOT make use of alien DNA that contains a totally different set of bases organized in a totally different coding arrangement (that coding arrangement is not self-evident).  They would not even necessarily use the same amino acids...though many would overlap because they occur naturally in fair abundance (life evolves from what is abundant, not what is rare).  

There is NO WAY for the mystical asar mating method to exist.  There are no magic beams (starkid to the contrary) that reads DNA and cuts and pastes the "good stuff" into your own DNA.  Give up any thought that the asari way could actually exist.  No.  It cannot.  This game is NOT about a scientifically correct depiction of aliens or their breeding methods. 

The depiction of Tali in this thread is not likely nor realistic.  Humans are unique to earth and do NOT represent the best solution to intelligent life.  There is no reason to assume bilateral symmetry, bipedalism, humanoid physical features to such a tremendous extent (two eyes separated by a nose placed directly above a slit mouth, etc, etc).  There is NO WAY there would be sexual attraction anymore than you are sexually attracted (unless psychologically defective) to your dog, a horse, an orangatan, an ostriche, etc.  Just not going to be happening.  

This game is NOT a scientific documentary about possible or likely aliens and sexual characteristics.  MOST scifi is actually ALL about the human condition, no matter how it is presented. It is about US, not actually aliens...hard scifi can go there with attempts to realistically present aliens...AS ALIEN.  This isn't even CLOSE to hard scifi.

Modifié par Getorex, 05 avril 2012 - 11:46 .

[DigitalAvatar]

Getorex wrote...
No.  The asari mating thing IS impossible.  You don't have to observe it.  DNA ON EARTH is made of only 4 bases (adenine, guanine, cytosine, thymidine).  There are a LOT of other bases that could be used.  The DNA backbone is deoxyribose.  There are alternatives to that too.  Then there is how the DNA codes for anything (triplets signifying one amino acid).  There is no rule on this last part but on earth, virtually EVERY living thing uses the same triplets for the same amino acids (not entirely but virtually so).  This is only due to we all having the same common ancestor.  There is no natural law that requires that ATG code for methionine.  There is no natural law that says a TAA codon means "stop".  There is nothing that requires only the 20 (21 actually, counting the oddball selenocysteine...used rarely) amino acids we use to be used universally.  There are a buttload of different amino acids. 

Can you help me with my bioscience homework?

[Getorex]

DigitalAvatar wrote...

Getorex wrote...
No.  The asari mating thing IS impossible.  You don't have to observe it.  DNA ON EARTH is made of only 4 bases (adenine, guanine, cytosine, thymidine).  There are a LOT of other bases that could be used.  The DNA backbone is deoxyribose.  There are alternatives to that too.  Then there is how the DNA codes for anything (triplets signifying one amino acid).  There is no rule on this last part but on earth, virtually EVERY living thing uses the same triplets for the same amino acids (not entirely but virtually so).  This is only due to we all having the same common ancestor.  There is no natural law that requires that ATG code for methionine.  There is no natural law that says a TAA codon means "stop".  There is nothing that requires only the 20 (21 actually, counting the oddball selenocysteine...used rarely) amino acids we use to be used universally.  There are a buttload of different amino acids. 

Can you help me with my bioscience homework?

Sure!

[nikki191]

haha im loving this thread and how bioware has gone from worship to being a laughing stock

Modifié par nikki191, 05 avril 2012 - 12:36 .

[Angangseh]

Swimming Ferret wrote...

Haha! Oh, it certainly fits with that oh so awesome Tali picture. (Honestly, who would have long hair if you are stuck in a helmet 24/7? FU3KING LOGIC Bioware.

If she's "stuck in a helmet 24/7" how would she cut her hair? 

Modifié par Angangseh, 05 avril 2012 - 03:09 .

[nycmode75]

HUGE WIN lolololol

[da mighty rEAper]

Getorex wrote...

No.  The asari mating thing IS impossible.  You don't have to observe it.  DNA ON EARTH is made of only 4 bases (adenine, guanine, cytosine, thymidine).  There are a LOT of other bases that could be used.  The DNA backbone is deoxyribose.  There are alternatives to that too.  Then there is how the DNA codes for anything (triplets signifying one amino acid).  There is no rule on this last part but on earth, virtually EVERY living thing uses the same triplets for the same amino acids (not entirely but virtually so).  This is only due to we all having the same common ancestor.  There is no natural law that requires that ATG code for methionine.  There is no natural law that says a TAA codon means "stop".  There is nothing that requires only the 20 (21 actually, counting the oddball selenocysteine...used rarely) amino acids we use to be used universally.  There are a buttload of different amino acids.  

So, there is NO WAY that any alien species not DIRECTLY related to earth life will use the same bases in DNA.  Even if they did use the same bases, there is NO WAY IN HELL they use the same codons, same amino acids, etc.  Thus, it is IMPOSSIBLE for the asari mating thing to work.  They could NOT make use of alien DNA that contains a totally different set of bases organized in a totally different coding arrangement (that coding arrangement is not self-evident).  They would not even necessarily use the same amino acids...though many would overlap because they occur naturally in fair abundance (life evolves from what is abundant, not what is rare).  

There is NO WAY for the mystical asar mating method to exist.  There are no magic beams (starkid to the contrary) that reads DNA and cuts and pastes the "good stuff" into your own DNA.  Give up any thought that the asari way could actually exist.  No.  It cannot.  This game is NOT about a scientifically correct depiction of aliens or their breeding methods. 

The depiction of Tali in this thread is not likely nor realistic.  Humans are unique to earth and do NOT represent the best solution to intelligent life.  There is no reason to assume bilateral symmetry, bipedalism, humanoid physical features to such a tremendous extent (two eyes separated by a nose placed directly above a slit mouth, etc, etc).  There is NO WAY there would be sexual attraction anymore than you are sexually attracted (unless psychologically defective) to your dog, a horse, an orangatan, an ostriche, etc.  Just not going to be happening.  

This game is NOT a scientific documentary about possible or likely aliens and sexual characteristics.  MOST scifi is actually ALL about the human condition, no matter how it is presented. It is about US, not actually aliens...hard scifi can go there with attempts to realistically present aliens...AS ALIEN.  This isn't even CLOSE to hard scifi.

You forgot one thing called "azure" this little pretty thing could do some of the copying job , i love that moment when Liara talks about it, she sounds so shy it also prooves that asari have not only mind relations with partner



Also asari mating is a monumental discussion, i wonder if no one mentioned hentai before, this could be a perv fest...

Modifié par da mighty rEAper, 10 avril 2012 - 09:54 .

[da mighty rEAper]

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[coolbeans]

da mighty rEAper wrote...

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Reaper code?

[LadyWench]

How am I just now finding out about this thread!? LOL, WIN!

[Dendio1]

Bawseee wrote...

Plaguemaster wrote...

Also, the FIRST LEAKED VIDEO! Supposed Tali father

ROFL

4TH Ending. Choose the purple beam, turn the universe into quarians!

[DarkShadow]

Arkitekt wrote...

DocDoomII wrote...

LuPoM wrote...

makalathbonagin wrote...

gabe quarian is clearly missing here
oh and btw

THIS was perfect, instead of the photoshopped image..

can someone make a mod where the original photo is switched with this?

Requoting this because its awesome. This should be the Quarians' general design, and this character should be someone like the General Shala' Raan. So badass and so amazingly beautiful at the same time. The author should be proud of this design.

I don't get why everyone loves this so much. Doesn't look quarian at all. Let me fix that for you.... Ok, here you go. Much better, don't you think?

[BentOrgy]

I laughed, I cried, both for the same reasons; its true, Bioware really was that lazy.

[ZackG312]

MalevoIence wrote...

 

What Tali should look like

some guys find this Hot

[Caelistas]

ZackG312 wrote...

MalevoIence wrote...

 

What Tali should look like

some guys find this Hot

I would be more ok with it if she didn't had giant claws instead of a mouth

[Awookie]

ZackG312 wrote...

MalevoIence wrote...

 

What Tali should look like

some guys find this Hot

There are only 2 appropiate responses. 




But whoa?  She kinda looks like a purple drell.  

Modifié par Awookie, 13 avril 2012 - 01:24 .

[Jwiz]

Immelman wrote...

Quarian meme

[Jwiz]

sorry missclicked, but yeah my last post, that pic made me cry laughing just when I saw it lol for the first time. Best thread I have ever seen

[Knottedredloc]

Immelman wrote...

Quarian meme

Thank you for this.... . LOL!

[Merchant2006]

I love this.

[BigZ7337]

Immelman wrote...

Quarian meme

This is great, I especially love the sloppily chopped off fingers, you should be employed at Bioware.

[Necroscope]

Used some of your images in my vid:

[tbb033]

Screw the quarians, I wanna see a volus.

[RocShemp]

EmperorZorn wrote...

http://desmond.image....jpg&res=medium

Here's my take on Tali.
It's based on the photo that Bioware gave us.

No matter which style they ultimately choose, Bioware should show us some Quarians in-game in a DLC of some sort. And to fix the ending.
It's the kind of closure we deserve before moving on to a new trilogy.

Plus they already spoiled how Quarians look without their suits, at least vaguely.

Who's the model?  She looks so familiar.