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[Anubiswarden]

[quote]VanDraegon wrote...

[quote]SLPr0 wrote...







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Hi...I'd just like to point out that Cailan was not using a color coordinated Keening Blade Longsword with his prissy gold "I'm the King" Armor.

Nor is even whats being shown accurate to what we personally saw in the game itself.

Come on BioWare get a grip you can't keep using that damn model, its not common in Ferelden human, dwarven or elven smithery. In fact its not even common Orlesian smithery....just where does that kind of smithing design come from? Its not reconciled anywhere in the fantasy lore, its simply a model tacked into the game with the meaningless Gaxkhang side quest and its only reasonable explanation is its somehow "Fade" forged.

But yet there it is again, its in use for the Keening Blade and for the Starfang Longsword.

Someone in the art department needs to find whoever's fallen in love with that model and slap them across the face really hard several times.



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You are making a lot of assumptions that you cannot possibly know the answers to. How do you kow all the armor designs for Orlais? The Dwarves? What makes you think that is King Cailan's sword?

If you dont like their designs for other models, whip something up yourself...

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He could just be rocking his alternate weapon set or something...but he so did have a two hander in the battle of ostagar



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[Inarai]

Deathstyk85 wrote...

sevenslashfour wrote...

Sounds like you're just nerd raging for the sake of nerd raging.

Because god forbid a WARRIOR has a collection of WEAPONS, eh? Just because he didn't use it doesn't mean he didn't own it. I mean, christ, you get Duncan's Shield in the game. In the regular, DLC-less, didn't-pay-extra-for-it game.

Duncan is a rogue.

People collect things, use different fighting styles for different situations, and to explain it in terms of game mechanics, lore characters aren't bound by limited talent points.

I don't know why I'm trying, though. You're also nitpicking (yes, you are) about how the sword is shaped. It's a fantasy game. You're saying a sword in a fantasy video game looks too weird. Think about that.

im not too sure that duncan is a rogue.
he had what seemed to be plate armor on, and warriors dual wield too. wich would also explain why he had a shield, that wasnt with him at the time he died, dual wielding.

Actually, it's apparently shown in the calling that he is a Rogue.

Rogues CAN equip plate armour and shields if they want, even if they often don't.

[Deathstyk85]

i think the whole point of this, however oddly stated it may have been, was that it would be awesome to see "new" armor and weapon designs, instead of the same four that are used and recolored for everything pretty much. my warrior is dual wielding dwyns sword and starfang, and they have the exact same model, just different colors

and i think ive seen like, six different armor sets that have that same design as the one shown in the picture.

variety is the spice of life.

i understand saving time, and using what you already have, and "technically" customizing it by changing the color, but i mean, it gets boring to see the same gear on every character you have, with slightly different stats/color scheme.

[Faffnr]

1) The sword design is not unique, that are two other swords with that model.



2) The king had a greatsword, so it's not representative of what he had at the battle (though he may have had a longsword and shield somewhere in camp)



3) The sword design looks really stupid. It's barely passable for "star metal."



4) It's not nerdy to think that sword looks dumb, it really does look silly, lore or not.

[Slaign]

Quite frankly, I just want some light armor that doesn't look downright idiotic. Leather armor looks like crap on women especially, and the helms are sickening.

[Inhuman one]

yet another reskin. cant they make a new model for a change? the blood dragon armor was also a reskin.

[thestreaker]

Bioware please make at least a new model for an armor which you're selling in DLC! This King's Armor is a golden colored Juggernaut set... and the sword is a gold colored Keening Blade. I can live with an extremely limited number of armors in the base game (well, I can't, but I don't have a choice).



But you're selling this as extra DLC for god's sake, at least put some bloody work into it!

[SLPr0]

Deathstyk85 wrote...

sevenslashfour wrote...

Sounds like you're just nerd raging for the sake of nerd raging.

Because god forbid a WARRIOR has a collection of WEAPONS, eh? Just because he didn't use it doesn't mean he didn't own it. I mean, christ, you get Duncan's Shield in the game. In the regular, DLC-less, didn't-pay-extra-for-it game.

Duncan is a rogue.

People collect things, use different fighting styles for different situations, and to explain it in terms of game mechanics, lore characters aren't bound by limited talent points.

I don't know why I'm trying, though. You're also nitpicking (yes, you are) about how the sword is shaped. It's a fantasy game. You're saying a sword in a fantasy video game looks too weird. Think about that.

im not too sure that duncan is a rogue.
he had what seemed to be plate armor on, and warriors dual wield too. wich would also explain why he had a shield, that wasnt with him at the time he died, dual wielding.

Duncan is absolutely, positively, a rogue. The lore for him in The Calling establishes that very clearly. His armor set is not so much plate as it it appears to be a sillverite breastplate and pauldrons interleved with leather and cloth, not exactly something a rogue of his prowess and station would not possess (and something I was sad to see didn't really apply to other rogue based armors in the game.)

Modifié par SLPr0, 29 novembre 2009 - 11:01 .

[Malaia]

Loetek wrote...

MartinJHolm wrote...

I don't get the OP, what is he talking about?

Well for one i think he is trying to say that the king was using a two hander not a sword and shield. And I also think the was trying to say that the design for that sword is unrealistic for the times. I wouldn't know seeing as how i was never alive then... nor was i in a fake video game world.

Bah thanks a lot Loetek, made me laugh so hard I woke my husband up 

[Bathead]

I honestly think the mistake you're making is assumptions based on a single graphic. You have NO idea exactly what the King's armor/weapons setup in R T O is gonna be. How about reserving your complaints until the DLC is actually out and you've actually played it?

Modifié par Bathead, 30 novembre 2009 - 02:46 .

[SLPr0]

Bathead wrote...

I honestly think the mistake you're makaing is assumptions based on a single graphic. You have NO idea exactly what the King's armor/weapons setup in R T O is gonna be. How about reserving your complaints until the DLC is actually out and you've actually played it?

I'm basing my complaints on the fact that the very same blade model has already turned up TWICE in the game, once in the base install, and then in the Wardens Keep DLC as the penultimate "uber swords" of the game.

And they are completely without lineage or lore to support their visual design. As compared to every other blade in the game which has a lore standard origin appropriate to the game period.

[Deathstyk85]

Bathead wrote...

I honestly think the mistake you're makaing is assumptions based on a single graphic. You have NO idea exactly what the King's armor/weapons setup in R T O is gonna be. How about reserving your complaints until the DLC is actually out and you've actually played it?

this is true, i said something like that on another post. that could just be some guy. like the "survivor" they mentioned
but i think the point is still there, that there is a huge lack of variety inthe weapons/armor department. all the good gear is pretty much the same few models, reskinned.

[DaeFaron]

Inhuman one wrote...

yet another reskin. cant they make a new model for a change? the blood dragon armor was also a reskin.

Um, How it is a reskin besides the helm?

That plate armor is exactly what the king was wearing when you met him, I would be disappointed if the Kings armor looked completely different then what he used.

Edit: I read one post that said the kings armor was impractical, Well then if that is true so is every Full-plate armor of the medivel time-period.

Modifié par DaeFaron, 29 novembre 2009 - 11:42 .

[KalosCast]

If the survivor is Duncan, and he becomes a party member, I'm going to commit terrorisms. The fate of the world is on your hands, Devs.

As for the weapon/armor discussion, the fact that despite being accused of regicide, you're going to run around Ferelden is his pants screaming about how innocent your order is... my disbelief has been suspended so far to accept that as being plausible that I can't even care about blade inconsistency.

[Deathstyk85]

DaeFaron wrote...

Inhuman one wrote...

yet another reskin. cant they make a new model for a change? the blood dragon armor was also a reskin.

Um, How it is a reskin besides the helm?

That plate armor is exactly what the king was wearing when you met him, I would be disappointed if the Kings armor looked completely different then what he used.

there are about 2 or 3 other sets that look pretty much exactly like that armor, just different colors
and the weapon has about 3 that have the same model. but yes this is what the king was wearing, so im glad they atleast kept it the same

[Deathstyk85]

KalosCast wrote...

If the survivor is Duncan, and he becomes a party member, I'm going to commit terrorisms. The fate of the world is on your hands, Devs.
As for the weapon/armor discussion, the fact that despite being accused of regicide, you're going to run around Ferelden is his pants screaming about how innocent your order is... my disbelief has been suspended so far to accept that as being plausible that I can't even care about blade inconsistency.

he wont, they already said that you wont be getting a new party member, and that the survivor is simply looking for you and you meet him at bann lorens pad.

and yeah, wearing his gear really wouldnt seem like the best idea.

[KalosCast]

Deathstyk85 wrote...

KalosCast wrote...

If the survivor is Duncan, and he becomes a party member, I'm going to commit terrorisms. The fate of the world is on your hands, Devs.
As for the weapon/armor discussion, the fact that despite being accused of regicide, you're going to run around Ferelden is his pants screaming about how innocent your order is... my disbelief has been suspended so far to accept that as being plausible that I can't even care about blade inconsistency.

he wont, they already said that you wont be getting a new party member, and that the survivor is simply looking for you and you meet him at bann lorens pad.

and yeah, wearing his gear really wouldnt seem like the best idea.

Good to know.

This whole idea of jacking the king's gear is still ass-butt retarded... well, it would have been if the plot even invovled the treason accusations. Hopefully it will at least explain how the entire Grey Warden order died, but an old woman who always talks about how she gets easily tired because she's an old woman (Wynne) and a CAGED AND SICK DOG managed to be the only non-Loghainite survivors at Ostagar.

[thegreateski]

"Of course we didn't kill the king! Those are all Loghaine's lies!"



"Then why are you wearing the Kings pants? and his armor? and are holding his sword and sh-AARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!"

[DaeFaron]

Deathstyk85 wrote...

DaeFaron wrote...

Inhuman one wrote...

yet another reskin. cant they make a new model for a change? the blood dragon armor was also a reskin.

Um, How it is a reskin besides the helm?

That plate armor is exactly what the king was wearing when you met him, I would be disappointed if the Kings armor looked completely different then what he used.

there are about 2 or 3 other sets that look pretty much exactly like that armor, just different colors
and the weapon has about 3 that have the same model. but yes this is what the king was wearing, so im glad they atleast kept it the same

Never seen the sword before, might be DLC though? Well, I haven't really seen the other skins of that armor, besides seeing the gold version in epilogue, Juggernaut armor has a different torso skin I believe. I won't argue about it though, they did have a good number of armor reskins.

[DaeFaron]

KalosCast wrote...

Deathstyk85 wrote...

KalosCast wrote...

If the survivor is Duncan, and he becomes a party member, I'm going to commit terrorisms. The fate of the world is on your hands, Devs.
As for the weapon/armor discussion, the fact that despite being accused of regicide, you're going to run around Ferelden is his pants screaming about how innocent your order is... my disbelief has been suspended so far to accept that as being plausible that I can't even care about blade inconsistency.

he wont, they already said that you wont be getting a new party member, and that the survivor is simply looking for you and you meet him at bann lorens pad.

and yeah, wearing his gear really wouldnt seem like the best idea.

Good to know.

This whole idea of jacking the king's gear is still ass-butt retarded... well, it would have been if the plot even invovled the treason accusations. Hopefully it will at least explain how the entire Grey Warden order died, but an old woman who always talks about how she gets easily tired because she's an old woman (Wynne) and a CAGED AND SICK DOG managed to be the only non-Loghainite survivors at Ostagar.

Actually, a number of the kings army escape, you hear alot about them. My brother and I figure the darkspawn didn't really attack the high-ground, which is why Wynne's comment about her staying a few days with the camp before leaving makes sense.

[Deathstyk85]

DaeFaron wrote...

Deathstyk85 wrote...

DaeFaron wrote...

Inhuman one wrote...

yet another reskin. cant they make a new model for a change? the blood dragon armor was also a reskin.

Um, How it is a reskin besides the helm?

That plate armor is exactly what the king was wearing when you met him, I would be disappointed if the Kings armor looked completely different then what he used.

there are about 2 or 3 other sets that look pretty much exactly like that armor, just different colors
and the weapon has about 3 that have the same model. but yes this is what the king was wearing, so im glad they atleast kept it the same

Never seen the sword before, might be DLC though? Well, I haven't really seen the other skins of that armor, besides seeing the gold version in epilogue, Juggernaut armor has a different torso skin I believe. I won't argue about it though, they did have a good number of armor reskins.

not arguing, but yeah the sword has i think two variations in the regular game, and then another in the wardens keep dlc.

[Vicious]

IMHO That sword model is the fugliest in the entire game, in my opinon.

The best looking is the 'Grey Warden' sword. [the one the Cousland Family Sword is]

So basically I have no clue why they have that.

Just try and support the Winter Forge mod, which will eventually let you swap models on weapons.


However unfortunately im going to have to throw my voice in with the ones who say 'please give us something new'

The Armor is recolored version of plenty of armors already available.

Ditto for Sword.

That's the problem many people have. I have to agree there isn't much equipment variety in the game. The Grey Warden helm from the Effort set only has ONE color [Grey, yes I know] but the rest of Effort is shiny silverite?

Modifié par Vicious, 30 novembre 2009 - 12:01 .

[Deathstyk85]

Vicious wrote...

IMHO That sword model is the fugliest in the entire game, in my opinon.

The best looking is the 'Grey Warden' sword. [the one the Cousland Family Sword is]

So basically I have no clue why they have that.

Just try and support the Winter Forge mod, which will eventually let you swap models on weapons.

ill end up getting the pc version as well just for things like that

for now i play on the xbox, and we get no such fun mods >.<

wich i wish i knew at the time, because i atleast would have been prepared for the dissapointment when the toolset was released.

[DaeFaron]

Deathstyk85 wrote...

Vicious wrote...

IMHO That sword model is the fugliest in the entire game, in my opinon.

The best looking is the 'Grey Warden' sword. [the one the Cousland Family Sword is]

So basically I have no clue why they have that.

Just try and support the Winter Forge mod, which will eventually let you swap models on weapons.

ill end up getting the pc version as well just for things like that

for now i play on the xbox, and we get no such fun mods >.<

wich i wish i knew at the time, because i atleast would have been prepared for the dissapointment when the toolset was released.

Eh, sometimes I think its slightly unfair that a person with PC can get a mod to change something like appearance of an armor or such, but consoles get stuck with vanilla version of the game.

I'd be happy if somehow it was possible to download/install a texture mod onto 360 version of Dragon Age, but still be legal.

[SLPr0]

I love the Winterforge mod, its quite good really.

Its just annoying that I go do these quests and they're like "here is your uber sword reward" and its that crappy model, so I go back to camp and build something from a MOD that I feel is more appropriate that meets the same standards.