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[nevar00]

Both. And also because what I did all game did not matter.

I don't want a regular "happy ending". This is a game where choices SHOULD matter. There SHOULD be a happy ending for those who did the right things right, there should be a bunch of middle endings, and for those who rush through making all the wrong decisions there should be a 'Reapers win' ending. This shouldn't have been too ridiculous an assumption to make (especially when we were told there'd be "16 different endings").

[Spherexius]

The poll is flawed in that the only two options are "Endings suck, we want a brighter one", "Endings are fine, we just want the Normandy strand on Earth or somewhere near Shepard." and "Fine as it is.".

Based on most of the posts I've read, I'd imagine that a majority of the people voting for the first option just wanted to sign on to the fact that the endings are ****ing terrible... Which they are.

I just want a proper ending that actually makes sense, and that sticks with the feel of the ME-series up until that point. Bleak or not, I just want proper closure, not a mind **** sequence where Shepard just lies down and dies without a fight, all the mass relays are destroyed for no good reason no matter what you choose, full of contradictions etc.


The poll is also the origin of the "happiness and sunshine" straw man you see people use constantly when they don't understand the issue, which coincidentally means that I hate it with a passion.

Modifié par Spherexius, 18 mars 2012 - 04:19 .

[TMA LIVE]

Well, I had hope for some kind of a happy ending. After all, if you can save everyone and win, as well as yourself, that's the goal you always want to try and work for if possible. But Shepard dying at the end wasn't a deal breaker for me. That was the least of things that bothered me. What bothers me is not knowing what exactly happened with the rest of the galaxy, and your crew. If they made a text crawl, saying "After the war, this and that happened" then I'd be happy. The only thing about Shepard's death that bothers me is that the choices at the end seem like they were made by Jigsaw, or one of his ****ty accomplices, where it seems like the person who built this place clearly wants you to die.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 18 mars 2012 - 04:21 .

[NoirLegend]

Both: I wanted an happy ending full of sense but BioWare gave me the opposite.

[Corrik Ronis]

I hate the ending because it is poorly written and fails to deliver on the promises of the series. I'm not all that bothered by the fact that we didn't get a 'happy' ending. Though I don't care for the fact that so many people are focusing on the 'happy' ending part. Too much I think that people believe that if you get a 'bad' ending that it makes for better storytelling. This is just simply not true. While the 'bad' ending can be good for a specific story it is in no way a rule of thumb. In the same way that a 'good' ending does not always make for poor storytelling. It all depends on what you are doing, though I believe that just because you are telling a certain kind of story doesn't mean that it has to end a certain way.

I do however believe that ME3 should have a 'happy' ending. There should be the "we did it, everything is fixed and all my buddies live. Also we get free ice cream YEAAAAAH" ending, there should be the "Way to freakin' go Shepard, you somehow found a way to make everything WORSE!" ending, and who knows how many endings that run the gamut between the the two.

[TurambarEA]

My main issue isn't that there was no happy ending (although, if you did EVERYTHING right, and I did, there should damn well be a happy ending available). No, I hate the endings because ...

Hate the endings because they shoe-horn us all into the same three options no matter what you have chosen to do up to that point.

Hate the endings because they were remarkably similar, no matter which colour crucible dye you choose.

Hate the endings because they're absolutely ridden with plot holes explainable only by space magic.

Hate the endings because Shepherd acted completely out of character to the Shepherd from the previous 2.99 games.

Hate the endings because RGC's stupid monologue (it was essentially a monologue) was telling me that synthetics and organics can't get along, blah blah, when in my game Joker and EDI were getting jiggy and the Geth and Quarians were holding hands and singing "kum ba yah".

Hate the endings because after my squad came back to life and teleported to the Normandy, Joker bailed on me and the Sol system - something he would never do.

Hate the endings because Marauder Shields should have at least warned me what was going to happen instead of trying to save me from the endings by killing me.

Edit: I almost forgot:

Hate the endings because the developers lied to me about them before the game was released.

Modifié par TurambarEA, 18 mars 2012 - 04:21 .

[Rabid Rabbit]

I loved the ending because it was appropriate. I mean come on you're Commander Shepard and you're fighting the d*mn Reapers. Like really?! Come on, it's not like the game was built to have this happy, sappy ending for the player that Shepard lives in the end. It is illogical. The game was meant to be the end of Shepard and possibly the Reapers. You synthesizing all organics and inorganics causes the happiest story line there is.

[Pheonix57]

Mostly because it makes no sense, partly because my Shepard didn't get to have Turian babies

[nevar00]

Kastrenzo wrote...

Would I be unoriginal for thinking the crucible was just a giant death lazor that kills reapers

It seemed reasonable to me.

That's what I was hoping for.  I was expecting a deus ex machina pulse to shoot out and automatically kill all the Reapers though, so I was bracing for what I thought would be a really screwy ending.

But oh god I was not prepared at all.

[Tylea002]

Everyone 'wants' a happy ending, that's the emotional connection for the characters. If I didn't get one, I would be sad. Appropriately. Sad FOR the characters, not at the game. The problem with the ending is it doesn't make sense, not that it's sad. If it all makes sense, then do whatever.

[CrazyRah]

Both but mostly because it's so full of plotholes and just plain bad content. The space-kid, the fate of the Normandy. The pick your favorite color and such. The endings offered no closure at all

[Wowlock]

golan2072 wrote...

Lambchopz wrote...



That is a diagram of an example of how the endings should have been.

I want this, I want it NOW!

Even if it costs 1,600 Bioware Points!

That is JUST BRILLIANT...... You should get hired as a writer ! 

[Apocsapel91]

Both, really. I think there should be an option for a happy ending.

[Ross42899]

Well first of all, I dislike the ending because it doesn't make sense and leaves some questions unanswered/gives new questions.
Second I'm disappointed, that I don't have the chance to receive a happy ending. I mean, I'm okay that there are bad/mediocre endings. But it's not okay, that I can't do a thing to achieve at least a better ending where the Mass relays are not destroyed and Shepard is clearly alive (not just indicate s/he might me alive).

[Ceira]

I hated the ending because it wasn't an ending at all. The game just stopped cold. You get beamed aboard the Citadel to hang out with the baby from 2001: A Space Odyssey, who feeds you a bunch of very ill-thought out crap that you just accept out of hand without questioning any of it.

"We kill you and turn your corpses into Reapers, because if we didn't, you'd create something that would do it eventually anyway. So we're basically just kinda beating them to the punch."

That was the explanation. I'm no professional writer by any means, but even I could have come up with something better than that.

More to the point, the cinematics made absolutely no sense. How/why did Liara and Garrus leave London to go blazing off into oblivion with Joker? Why was Joker in FTL, anyway? He was at the battle and made no mention of ever leaving. Then, all the sudden, he crash lands some distant planet and everyone hops out with happy faces on. Uhh, what?

Did Shepard get shot with a Reaper beam made of LSD?

[Cobra's_back]

The ending makes no sense. I don't need happy endings.

[clearlyestated]

We were promised variety and did not receive it.
Mostly because the endings dont make sense.

[ediskrad327]

both

[cotheer]

Not because it's not a happy ending, but for the lack of choices to have one, big difference.
And yes, i hate for both reasons.

[doodiebody]

 I would have liked a happy ending, but I can appreciate sad endings as well.

The endings disgust me because they make no sense at all and are full of plot holes.

[saeval912]

Grayvern wrote...

I wish people would tak into account that even an ending n which the hero mostly gets what he wants can still be bittersweet, such as Fools Fate by Robin Hobb.

I loved robin hobb, and those books. this is not those books. that feeling resides throughout the core of the farseer series. Fitz is a downtrodden hero, things only get worse for him. Fitz's broken story, is a result of his amazing set of character flaws, broadly on display over six well written books. His ending is what I expected him to have, hell, it is better than I expected him to have.

although I admit there are two shepards, paragon shep is some sort of miracle worker. He does the impossible over and over. he unifies people without bloodshed, has people embrace hope, embodies the ideas of unity and compromise. He never takes a creature at face value, just because others tell him/her how something reacted in the past. He always chooses to judge for himself, and encourages others to follow their heart.

he also commits genocide of sentient races, which he unwaveringly held up as equals despite all of the collective intelligence of the galaxy trying to state otherwise. Destroys space travel and entire star systems, stranding many people to horrible fates, (not even talking sol system here... they would all be dead from the nova in an instant) isolated on distant planets that can't provide for themselves, or space stations that now have nobody making supply drops.

even if we argue that the spaceships shielding somehow save them from the nova, you still have 1-2 mile long giant space robots plummeting to earth destroying whatever managed to scurry into a hidey-hole.

so uh. paragon sheps ending reflects his/her character not even in the slightest. I know this rant got off of what you were originally trying to say it just.... so much logic fail. how could they not see a problem with that character flow?

Modifié par saeval912, 18 mars 2012 - 04:35 .

[Cartims]

Red = Blue = Green = Red....errrr...it's the WRITING!!!!!!!

[glacier1701]

Dont need a happy ending just one that makes a lot more sense than the one supplied.

[Venturisection]

Because it is completely stupid http://calitreview.com/24673 sums it up. There is too much wrong with it.

[LoboFH]

I hate the ending because:

1) smells like a rushed half-hearted work, Money guy: "finish the game on march 2012, no matter what"...the plot-holes, the let's ignore three games of decisions, the derivative final cinematics are a direct consequence of this. This is not a struggle to tyrannize the "artistic" freedom of BioWare writers, this is a struggle for quality, we deserve it, Mass Effect deserves it, THEY deserve it.

2) offers an absurd magic-mistic-freak-surrealistic solution to a science-fiction saga. Paolo Coelho's diabetic crap looks like "2001, a Space Oddisey" in comparation with star child nonsense.

Modifié par LoboFH, 18 mars 2012 - 04:40 .