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[Blind2Society]

While reading through the numerous ending threads I have read a thousand times people saying they did not expect a happy ending. Because of this I have an honest question.

How many of you seriously did not expect a happy ending?

I would think that everyone who had played Mass Effect was
expecting to able to choose no?

Maybe your choices throughout the
series and at the end wouldn't have led to a happy ending but did you
honestly expect there not to be an option for one?

[ed87]

You said it. Choice is an issue. For 99% of the ME series we believed we had a choice. The end removed that and replaced it with an ending that made no sense. That leads us to the next issue. Closure and resolution with our characters and actions. The list goes on...

As you can see, whether the endings are happy or sad is irrelevant. Its a shame that many people have asked for 'brighter endings' to the point that we are now misunderstood by many

Modifié par ed87, 18 mars 2012 - 01:50 .

[dreaming_raithe]

I didn't expect victory to be absolutely flawless, no. I didn't expect most of the fleet to survive, or even for Shepard to survive.

But ME2 gave us the expectation that with enough work, we could win with minimal losses. ME3 doesn't preserve that style of ending at all, as you really lose just about everything major no matter what.

[chibilombax]

I was expecting the option to have a happy ending.

[Noatz]

Considering my playthrough was pure Paragon I expected my choices to lead to a *mostly* happy ending. Of course the galaxy is still devastated and billions have been killed, but I thought a scene focusing on rebuilding while Shepard and his gang looked on was on the cards. Possibly I would lose some squad members or other notable NPCs like Anderson, and that would have been fine even in the best case scenario.

Instead I got everyone important stranded at Sol and unable to return to what they were actually fighting for, the Normandy crashing on Gilligan's Planet despite that not remotely fitting with any of the events leading up to it, no news on the fate of anyone other than the few staggering out of the Normandy (and even that wasn't real news), and the knowledge that this was all down to a stupid AI using faulty logic I couldn't even challenge.

Modifié par Noatz, 18 mars 2012 - 01:53 .

[MrAtomica]

Sure fooled me when I found out I had no option to actually come out alive (excusing the breathing scene). After 1 and 2, where Shepard literally escapes the maw of hell by the skin of his or her teeth, I expected an option for the same in this game.

Modifié par MrAtomica, 18 mars 2012 - 01:53 .

[Everwarden]

I did not expect or desire a happy ending. That's strawman garbage tossed out by drones and shills. 

[Vengilus]

I suppose it depends on your definition of "happy ending".

I expected my Shepard to die. I was even beginning to feel like it would be a cop-out if she didn't, based on the conversations and decisions that were taking place as I played through. However, just because I saw my Shepard as doomed did not mean I expected a downer ending.

Shepard's forces would prevail. Shepard was the final catalyst. The galaxy would be saved and the squad would mourn the loss of their commander. It was a high cost to pay, but that's what my Shepard would do.

So in a sense, yes, I did not expect a "happy ending"... I expected an ending that I would be happy with.

[Blind2Society]

@ed87:  I agree with the first part of your post but the second I don't. For me it's not really about closure, well, it is but moreover it's about choice. I want the choice we all expected.

Modifié par Blind2Society, 18 mars 2012 - 01:55 .

[Haasth]

In a war where giant sentient machines are harvesting all organic life I did not expect a fairy tale good ending. I expected a bittersweet ending as an option. Did I expect one where Shepard survives? Yes. But as a bittersweet moment.

Instead we get Space Magic and Ghost Kid.

Modifié par Haasth, 18 mars 2012 - 01:55 .

[Grand Wazoo]

I did not expect a happy ending or dancing with the ewoks for my Shepard. I expected that the option for happy ending was still going to be there.

[Quietness]

coming into the game i was hoping for a happy ending. During the game there was far too much forshadowing of death, so i grew to accept that it would happen.

but nothing beats me talking to my wife about the line stating that evolution keeps growing back almost as if by an unseen hand (forget exact line)... i look at my wife "god is going to smite shepard in the end".......

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Silly me, I actually did expect to get a better ending than the guy who got his whole team killed in ME2, skipped all sidequests, failed at geth/quarian peace, etc.

Guess that was apparently too much for Bioware to be able to implement. Even after they said they would.

Modifié par Mr. Big Pimpin, 18 mars 2012 - 01:57 .

[Lilla Snorkan]

Uhm, to be completely honest i figured the game would contain everything from ultrasad-what-just-happened to sunshine, lollipops and rainbows.
I didn't expect MY Shepard would have a happy ever after though, just wasn't in the cards.

[Uezurii]

I was expecting the ending to be Harbinger demanding Tea and Crumpets from London, say cheerio, and then leave.

To be serious though, I always expected shepard to die, and the closer you got to the end, the more tired Shepard seemed, but it still would have been nice to have the choice.

[Negix]

I expected that Shepard might die. However, I imagined it to happen in a happy way. The whole ME story is basically high fantasy and that genre obeys rules. If a main character dies, theres absolute peace forever and the character gets the chance to find peace himself, not only on himself but also manages to make peace with his friends (long good bye scenes yadeyade). If Bio intended the ending they have right now they shouldnt have chosen the genre that they chose. A "gritty", as I believe they put it ending doesnt fit a non gritty universe. You cant change the entire genre of your story in the end. Thats not how endings work.

[tybbiesniffer]

Vengilus wrote...

I suppose it depends on your definition of "happy ending".

I expected my Shepard to die. I was even beginning to feel like it would be a cop-out if she didn't, based on the conversations and decisions that were taking place as I played through. However, just because I saw my Shepard as doomed did not mean I expected a downer ending.

Shepard's forces would prevail. Shepard was the final catalyst. The galaxy would be saved and the squad would mourn the loss of their commander. It was a high cost to pay, but that's what my Shepard would do.

So in a sense, yes, I did not expect a "happy ending"... I expected an ending that I would be happy with.

This nails it on the head. 

I'd add that I expected at least an epilogue letting me see what Shepard accomplished (or didn't).

[Andur4]

chibilombax wrote...

I was expecting the option to have a happy ending.

Exactly this.

[CaptainJaques]

ed87 wrote...

You said it. Choice is an issue. For 99% of the ME series we believed we had a choice. The end removed that and replaced it with an ending that made no sense. That leads us to the next issue. Closure and resolution with our characters and actions. The list goes on...

As you can see, whether the endings are happy or sad is irrelevant. Its a shame that many people have asked for 'brighter endings' to the point that we are now misunderstood by many

This

[Miphious]

My headcanon of my paragon Shepard finishes with her dying on the Citadel as the crucible activates (and functions without a starchild, because my brain refuses to include that in the canon). So yes, I was completely okay with the possibility that my Shepard might have to give her life.

I also would have liked an option for my character to live - my renegade would have done anything, and sacrificed anyone, to survive even if it meant helping the reapers.

Instead, I got dead, dead and dead. Oh and you just possibly exploded the universe in the process (the only evidence we have to know what will happen when mass relays rupture is a supernova; without in game evidence to suggest something to the contrary, I have to go with what was established as game fact).

So it wasn't only not happy, you just destroyed everything in the universe and then got no closure about what your decision - destroy, control, synthesize - did to the universe.

I wanted something like DA:O. I wanted to have options for an ending ranging from universe screwed and reapers win to living happily ever after with my LI, and I wanted an epilogue either in text or cinematics to tell me what I did to everyone.

[Aiyie]

i was expecting a DA:O type of ending.

something where Shep dies at the end, sacrificing herself for the good of the galaxy.

i just didn't expect it to be so poorly portrayed... unless it really is all indoctrination, in which case... massive kudos to bioware for what would be the most epic twist ending in the history of gaming up to now. 

(i don't think indoc theory was intentional, or at least not entirely... "purposefully vague"... but i do hope they'll capitalize on it and make it official)

[Welsh Inferno]

Haasth wrote...

In a war where giant sentient machines are harvesting all organic life I did not expect a fairy tale good ending. I expected a bittersweet ending as an option. Did I expect one where Shepard survives? Yes. But as a bittersweet moment.

Instead we get Space Magic and Ghost Kid.

This.

[Nu-Nu]

Well I didn't expect a happy ending like disney but I was hoping that your choices would either get you a sacrifice ending (where she actually fight to the very end) or spilling drinks at the citadel and having a toast to all your fallen comrades. A lot of your comrades died, and because of that it was never going to be a truly happy ending, but never expected it to be the nightmare it was.

[bly2425]

Depends on what you mean by happy ending. I went into the final act knowing that Shepard would die. Everything that had happened in the plot had a Shepard death written all over it. But I did believe that bus death would bring forth a harmonious galactic community--happy ending?

But if by happy ending you mean Shepard survives and drives into sunset with his/her LI, hell no. Everyone who does is not paying attention to the storytelling.

[LTKerr]

I was expecting a bad ending, a worst ending, a good ending, a happy ending and some neutral endings. Instead I have a bad ending, bad ending, bad ending... and a worst ending. Great job!