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[Amagoi]

Reading this now. It's nice to read something from an unbiased perspective, like many of the gaming 'journalists' that also have EA ads on their articles, or members of their team involved in the game. Funny how this also tears apart the ending.

Hoping more take the time to read this review.

[ticklefist]

That's not a review that will hurt your business, that's a review that will hurt your feelings. Ouch.

Modifié par ticklefist, 19 mars 2012 - 12:10 .

[dahilla]

Killer3000ad wrote...

Yes Bioware, even the experts on literature and ARTS think your artsy and deep ending was crap.

This.

[Sc2mashimaro]

dreaming_raithe wrote...

Yep, from a literary standpoint, it's absolutely atrocious. Glad to see others picking up on that. I think the disconnect with the themes of the rest of the games is really my biggest problem at this point.

Definitely. This, this, this. Nice post, OP. It's what a lot of us in English, Writing, and Communication fields have been saying about the ending - the themes and rhetoric of the last 10 minutes flies in the face of all of the themes and rhetoric the game had established up until that point. The only way to resolve it if they make ending DLC, really, is to turn the star-child in to a devil figure (rather than a god figure) and re-establish the focus of the narrative on the characters.

[TheOptimist]

It cannot be overstated how much the ending of the game soured the rest of the experience. If Bioware won't listen to us, perhaps they'll listen to a professional art critic.

[devSin]

It's nice to see someone elucidate the criticism so effectively.

I'm a fan of this review.

[VikingDream]

nice review

[Soldatto Rosso]

Very well written review, and one that attacks the ending on its artistic merits.

Even other artistes think your ending is crap, Bioware!

[Gallron395]

I've been pretty impressed to see professional writers taking issue with the ending. I saw a post earlier about a literature major taking the whole ME story to his professor and his professor found it terrible from a literature point of view.

[GnusmasTHX]

Who else has never heard of them until now?

[Su13perfitz]

Man that review is right on the money.

[Reptilian Rob]

I wrote a literary critique as well, I agree 100%.

Absolute trash.

[Xivai]

Such a good review.

[FirstBlood XL]

Great review.

[Lendorien]

I read the entire review. It's a solid review that covers its bases well and has complements as well as criticisms.

But it's nice to see that the non-gaming press also recognize that the ME3 ending is garbage.

[NeoGuardian86]

Nexis7 wrote...

>20+ hour game
>last 5-10mins are bad
>2.5/5

stay classy

this would be true if it were a movie as well. think about it. as a story alone.

meaning take away the walking around the citadel, the loading screens (lots of those), and the gunplay. simply focus on story elements, character interactions and cut scenes. The game i would say is perhaps 5 or little more of talking. 

You can literally kill a story with it's ending. 

If you end it on an amazing note people will cherish and remember it, if you screw up the ending people may defend it, a lot of people will criticize it, and it will go down as either forgotten or as a lesson of "don't do that". 

[Legendaryred]

The ending killed the story that's how i see it.

[M12311]

Lendorien wrote...

But it's nice to see that the non-gaming press also recognize that the ME3 ending is garbage.

Yes I think the endings trascent the gaming world. they are bad in any reality

[Phydeaux314]

Ooo, I missed this one the first time around.

[BearcatPrideEZF]

Thank God.

[BearcatPrideEZF]

dahilla wrote...

Killer3000ad wrote...

Yes Bioware, even the experts on literature and ARTS think your artsy and deep ending was crap.

This.

This.

[Subject M]

Excellent war-asset. 100 points, at least.

Modifié par Subject M, 19 mars 2012 - 07:56 .

[Ieldra]

Subject M wrote...
Excellent war-asset. 100 points, at least.

Indeed.
I want this to come across as a sting to their pride at Bioware, so they'll make a better ending as a statement "We can do better".

[TabooTattoo]

Actually found OP link independently. Searched here and found this thread. It is a good read.

The reviewer says, "[the ending] has the gall to add an advertisement by the producers at the end of the credits, which is frankly insulting. " Damn! Exactly! I too felt it was insulting. As in - the ending wasn't bad enough - here's the topping.

I particularly liked the discussion pertaining to it's failure (as art). Here are two quotes:
"If you have to ask what it symbolizes, it didn’t.” - Roger Ebert
"- the inability to convey intent is the definition of failed art." - the review's author, Adam Robert Thomas