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[WazTheMagnificent]

It's nice to see an honest opinion from a reviewer who doesn't have vested interests in defending the game *coughIGNcough*

[Slappy Ya Face]

tobito113 wrote...

This was clearly written by a biased hater, how i know this? Because i disagree with it.

I too disagree with things which have been said by this other person. I will re-affirm your statement by agreeing with it, followed by further insults directed at the article in question.

I will now confess my undying love for Bioware and anything they do, no matter how horribly it ruins the things they do.

[BBCH]

Oh, if all that's bad is the ending to a "your choices shape your journey" trilogy, than it's no biggie, eh?
Yeah, it must be biased hate.

[Edje Edgar]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

TheKillerAngel wrote...

The California Literary Review is an online literary magazine that focuses on arts and culture. I was checking the news on Mass Effect 3 this morning and thought it was interesting to see reviews from outside the gaming press.

http://calitreview.com/24673 

Without giving anything away, (directly, as all subsequent links will contain some spoilers) the ending, by which I mean the final five to ten minutes, of Mass Effect 3 is easily the worst finale I’ve seen compared to the preceding quality that came before it – in any medium. At literally every level, it’s objectively terrible.[/b]

Sloppy execution that reuses art assets reveals that it’s a hurried inclusion. The under thought and over pretentious dialogue does nothing but create bizarre, confusing plot holes. It even commits the same sin The Devil Inside did earlier this year, and has the gall to add an advertisement by the producers at the end of the credits, which is frankly insulting. 

Far more importantly though, it betrays key themes and values well established by the series thus far. Past player choice impacting the shape of events is negated in favor of an arbitrary and poorly explained “pick your favorite color” moment. Science fiction justification in an otherwise material world is abandoned for magical deism, since quite literally, a god in a machine appears. Unification through altruism and sacrifice is thrown out for pure nihilism: each of the choices you’re forced to make results in Shepard committing some level of genocide or another, with the benefits removed from any relatable emotional touchstone to the intangible space of far flung statistics. It even manages to make The Reapers, one of the more imposing forces of antagonism in recent memory, come across as foolish pawns.

Out of curiosity, how did they rate ME1 and ME2? Those games themselves had some notable flaws as well. And by notable, systematic throughout the games, rather than isolated in the finale.

(And no, writer, it wasn't nihilism. And since destroying the Reapers was always going to be genocide, you better have been complaining about it before. And the Reapers were only super-imposing if you didn't think on how they could have easily ****ed things up by acting smarter in the other games.)

The genocide is about the geth. Think before talk=win.

[tamperous]

Deus Ex Machina is "God in the Machine", or as they call it at Bioware: Boy in the Citadel.

A fair and literate review, obviously written by someone trained in the arts. Someone who understands that you do not introduce themes and carry them through a trilogy only to discard them for either expediency, and/or a pretentious ego-driven 'art-ending'.

[hckf2]

"Especially in the case of Mass Effect 3 since it redefines the entire experience . . . in about the same way being left at the altar by a spouse ditching you for your mom redefines a relationship."

Can we please use this picture from now on .
It made me laugh in a sad way^^

[Jobasha]

Relwyn wrote...

tobito113 wrote...

This was clearly written by a biased hater, how i know this? Because i disagree with it.

What an excellent and reasoned argument that is.

Time to turn on your sarcasm detector! 

[Synonamess]

hold the line

/bump

[Vhalkyrie]

So much for calling the ending 'art'.

[darkshadow136]

Great read, and real good look at the problems of ME3.

[mdolsen]

Nexis7 wrote...

>20+ hour game
>last 5-10mins are bad
>2.5/5

stay classy

I'm sorry, but when the last 10 minutes of the 3rd game completely destroys peoples perception of the game, and removes any inclination to replay any of the 3 games, a 2.5/5 is justifiable.  You can't make every choice made by the player in the series totally irrelevant to the final solution, and not expect to get roasted over the coals.

I love ME3, and would easily have given it a 9/10....if not for the Deus Ex Ending.

[Kilshrek]

It's nice to see truthful comments yes, but I think the score is a bit low still. I hate the endings as much as anyone else, but this tars the rest of the game in an unfair manner as well.

The same as we don't like the reckless acts of individuals to paint us requesting better endings as spoiled and entitled, so should we not slam the whole game for having a poor ending.

If I ever get around to scoring the game and offering a review I will definitely give it something equal to or greater than 7.5.

The moment the Citadel was taken sure did invalidate the whole series for me, but before that it was a great ride, let's not lose our perspective.

[Mims]

Ouuuch. I don't know what stings more, 2.5 or being compared to the Devil Inside.

[Jobasha]

tamperous wrote...
Deus Ex Machina is "God in the Machine"

It is actually "God from the machine", or, maybe better, "God out of the machine".

Modifié par Jobasha, 18 mars 2012 - 02:16 .

[lasertank]

War Asset Acquired.

[Unender]

I'm glad to see news covering this maybe bioware will take the hint. lol

[Wattoes]

I think I just got....erect.

[Maias227]

Who on earth is the Califonia Literary Review? It sounds like a high school book club.

[Element Zero]

Yet another critic appalled at the unbelievably bad ending.

[cachx]

 Accurate review of the ending, crappy review of the game.

a temper tantrum review, ala Jim Sterling with a extra sprinkle of snottiness on top.

[EsterCloat]

Mims wrote...

Ouuuch. I don't know what stings more, 2.5 or being compared to the Devil Inside.

Luckily, you don't need to choose because he did both!

Really though, wow. That article was really critical of Mass Effect 3. Man, it somehow feels wrong I'm getting any kind of satisfaction out of this. I should be loving ME3 and instead...sigh.

Modifié par EsterCloat, 18 mars 2012 - 02:21 .

[Zhijn]

Its a good review. "Storytelling sucide", yup.

[Jaraldur]

Great review ^^

[ThePasserby]

When an ending destroys so much of the franchise's replay value, not just the game itself but the prevous two in the franchise, it is fair to sink its rating.

[VAIOMANIAC]

tweeted this to mac walters wonder if he responds