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[Turtlicious]

pwnt

[Punahedan]

And on a more serious note from me:

I like it when games are treated like another way to approach and tackle philosophical problems and questions. RPGs are an especially good medium to do that in because it can provide a question and then have us see a few different ways of responding - akin to a philosophical debate and questioning human nature.

I'm disappointed the author dismissed the Indoctrination Theory so out of hand, but at the same time, I appreciate how it treats the ending, if taken literally, like it's just trying too hard to be clever and abandons established themes in the process. I personally find "integrity of the story" arguments compelling because ME3 sets up a conclusion for those themes so well and clutches them closely until the last ten minutes. Or 4.46 minutes. I wish he had done a more spoilered version so he could go into detail about the problems, but as a short (if emotionally-laden and broad) review, it does passably in explaining how the ending abandons the WWII-in-space build-up for a Kafka-Fitzgerald mutant of a conclusion.

And:

"Since Garrus couldn’t get any more awesome than he was, he remains thankfully unchanged." Yes. Win.

[azerSheppard]

more like a 3.5/5
it could haven been a 4.5/5 if they didn't go with "wooo this ending sounds cool, eventhough it doesn't make any sense when analysed for 3 seconds".

I never trusted Casey Hudson, he was a marketing guy all along, i can still hear his disingenuous interviews about this game and it's predecessor, atleast ME2 had some level of closure.

[C Trayne]

good... this is what the game deserves IMO... with a good ending this game is at least a 4.5 out of 5 but with the ending here giving it a 2.5 is generous at least from my POV. It may sound harsh but we've waited 5 years for this game to come. Played alongside our squadmates, developed relationships, solved problems, and ended wars just so we could stop the reapers. Then we get to the end and some glowing kid gives us the finger and says "here u get A, B, and C... exactly what casey hudson said their wouldn't be... deal with it" Dammit this hurts me

[Cobra's_back]

HOLD THE LINE!

[syllogi]

The gestalt of Mass Effect 3 is an end unjustified by its means, unworthy of defense. During its final moments it commits storytelling suicide, and the taste of decay it leaves in the mouth cripples the otherwise impeccable quality of what came before, poisoning even nostalgia against it. At best and being fair to the game’s other traits, the quality comes out a wash – simply mediocre.

This is beautiful.

[GreyhameBioware]

Great read. He points out the complete shift in tone rather well and in a funny way.

And I do agree with him on the game reviewers. A lot seem to focus more on game play than story, often ignoring the story sometimes.

[Darthlawsuit]

Nexis7 wrote...

>20+ hour game
>last 5-10mins are bad
>2.5/5

stay classy

Last 5-10 minutes destroy everything you have done for the past 140 hours (whole series). It contradicts everything and makes the entire thing seem pointless. Yes it ruins the series. I could have skipped the entire game, went straight to the end, and I would be at the same point I am now.

[Unit-Alpha]

I approve of their balls.

Don't take that in the wrong way.

[Drogonion]

Most accurate and intelligent review I've read so far of ME3, by a critic who clearly loves the ME universe and has played the entire series.

[UrdnotGrunty2]

War Asset Aquired

[wasawsolos]

I am an English major, and that's the score I would give it.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Best Review Evaaaaar lol

[Caz Neerg]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

(And no, writer, it wasn't nihilism. And since destroying the Reapers was always going to be genocide, you better have been complaining about it before. And the Reapers were only super-imposing if you didn't think on how they could have easily ****ed things up by acting smarter in the other games.)

If you think the current endings aren't fundamentally nihilistic, you either don't understand the logical consequences of the endings, or you don't understand nihilism.

[KaeserZen]

Excellent points and well written review.

It's a real blow to BioWare considered their main selling point is telling stories :/

[iSpider-Man]

Hold The Line.
War Asset Acquired.

[Panicomatic]

I feel that the ending actually invalidated the game and its predecessors, and even has negative effects on nostalgia like the article stated. Yes it was a great game up to the ending, but the ending doesn't just work against 10 minutes of gameplay, but rather the 100 hours of gameplay before it which evidently doesn't matter. So to label the game a 2.5 out of 5 isn't terribly surprising and is justified.

Modifié par Panicomatic, 18 mars 2012 - 05:22 .

[Mvin]

Wow, and well written as well. I had great fun while reading. I think this makes our point abundantly clear - even from an objective viewpoint, the ending is simply bad in every way and needs to be changed.

[Caz Neerg]

This qualifies as a critic review; everyone, and I mean everyone, should send the link to Metacritic, and keep doing so until they include it on their list.

[Sawtooth357]

The review works even better when you read it in the voice of Sovereign.

[Boceephus]

The more outside the gaming industry a review site is, the more honest the review. My payola-sense is tingling!

[SyyRaaaN]

A desperate cry for some attention. The game clearly deserves 10/10.

Modifié par SyyRaaaN, 18 mars 2012 - 05:39 .

[beccathelion]

wasawsolos wrote...

I am an English major, and that's the score I would give it.

I'm an English professor, and I would have too :]

[Dean_the_Young]

Edje Edgar wrote...

The genocide is about the geth. Think before talk=win.

We've genocided Batarians, Heretic Geth in ME2, whatever species Harbinger was, and the Collectors.

Genocide is a tool in Shepard's tool box, whether you admit to it or not.

[Arturia Pendragon]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

I approve of their balls.

Don't take that in the wrong way.

Good find, OP; agreed on all accounts.

Modifié par Arturia Pendragon, 18 mars 2012 - 05:44 .