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It isn't fair that *very minor spoilers* Steve and Samantha are exclusive to one sex.


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PsychoWARD23

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Traynor's lesbian?

Awwwww

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LPPrince

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PsychoWARD23 wrote...

Traynor's lesbian?

Awwwww


Yeah, no shower with Samantha for a Shepard with a peñor.

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I'd feel sorrier for FemShep players if some obnoxious ones weren't going "OMG how dare male Shep have more male options than me! It's not like I've had a choice since game 1! They're a minority (and the hypocrisy with that always makes me LMAO)! I SHOULD HAVE MORE OPTIONS!!!111 HOW DARE MALE SHEP HAVE 2 MALE OPTIONS AND I HAVE TO SHARE ONE OF THEM!!!1"

So yeah can't really feel pity with that level of obnoxiousness.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 18 mars 2012 - 04:57 .


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LPPrince

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Don't judge them all because of a few, Ryzaki.

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LPPrince wrote...

You CAN. Doesn't mean that it'll ALWAYS be that way.That's my point.

Hell, even a new player in ME3 can screw themselves if they choose Kaidan as the sacrifice before they start their game.

Unless Garrus is available to new FemSheps.

I see what you're saying,but I just have to disagree with you. I really don't think it's necessary that they are ALWAYS available. If you want them available,you'll make them available. As long as you CAN,I don't see the problem.

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give me a break. In real life I can't make some hot lesbian date me

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Reported

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Akka le Vil

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LPPrince wrote...

Now lets look at how many heterosexual relationships MaleShep has in the worst case scenario-

If Ashley was sacrificed(like that ever happens)

She never got out of any of my game alive.
Why do people think that she will always survive ? I never liked her, and I always liked Kaidan.

And this whole thread is either a troll or a new height in stupidity. But I suspect it's a troll.

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LPPrince wrote...

Don't judge them all because of a few, Ryzaki.


I try but it's too damn many of them agreeing with that stupidity. <_<

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Akka le Vil wrote...

And this whole thread is either a troll or a new height in stupidity. But I suspect it's a troll.


Eh, I'm trying to create SOME positivity out of it.

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Swordfishtrombone wrote...

Somehow I suspect the OP isn't being quite serious. :)

In real life, you have gay people, you have bi people, and you have straight people - you even have asexual, pansexual and what-ever-prefix-I-forgot-sexual people. Someone you find attractive and would like to date may turn out not to be attracted to your gender. That's life.

Making everyone bisexual would be stretching credulity to a breaking point.


Not to mention Fox news going crazy over it. 

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Ryzaki wrote...

I'd feel sorrier for FemShep players if some obnoxious ones weren't going "OMG how dare male Shep have more male options than me! It's not like I've had a choice since game 1! They're a minority (and the hypocrisy with that always makes me LMAO)! I SHOULD HAVE MORE OPTIONS!!!111 HOW DARE MALE SHEP HAVE 2 MALE OPTIONS AND I HAVE TO SHARE ONE OF THEM!!!1"

So yeah can't really feel pity with that level of obnoxiousness.


Going to have to disagree here.

Like LPPrince said, can't generalize a whole group based on a few. I'm sure there were people just like you described within the group of people fighting for the Cortez and Kaidan as male options. Doesn't make them any more right than the "obnoxious femshep" individuals.

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I would prefer all bi LIs myself though.

Gives me more ways to play since I don't tend to play female voiced protagonists. (and in BW games can't stand playing them).

@Above poster: And I'm sure there's those who feel no pity for certain screechers in FFTL not getting what they want either. Maybe if I saw some decent femShep players trying to at least argue against that but none of them are. So it sours me on the whole group. Probably not right of me but eh. It's not like my opinion matters to them (or vice versa) so no loss.

As for generalizing. I'm not. Not once have I said they're all like that. Merely that I can't feel much sympathy because of the ones that DO act like that.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 18 mars 2012 - 05:09 .


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I liked it and I think it was well done. It gave the characters variety. Saying they are pandering to specific demographic is crap definitly since up until mass effect 3 there really wasnt a serious same sex relationship outside Liara, which was available for male shepard to. Now I would understand if they were serious squad mates but there not. I thik it worked out well without excluding a specific group.
I was honestly more angry that Kaiden was an optional same-sex romance and Ashley wasnt but whatever. Be happy with what you got! OVerall I think MAss Effect 3 pulled off believable same-sex romance better then DA2.

Modifié par Mark of the Dragon, 18 mars 2012 - 05:07 .


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I'm a bisexual, and i hate the idea called "everyone's bisexual". I've criticized DAII romance system because of that.

This is no secret, that bisexuals are minority - most people clearly identify themselves as hetero or homosexual. Do i feel it's unfair, that a certain guy/gal is not interested in me? No, it's their sexual orientation, and if RPG's want to "recreate" real relationships they should have characters with established sexual orientation (s/g/bi), and not make characters trying to "fit" the player. Player should fit the world, not the other way around.

I wouldn't mind one or two bisexual characters, but making everyone in the game bisexual is just absurd.

Modifié par Bobrzy, 18 mars 2012 - 05:13 .


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I can't really think of any game that really, not just opens the doors, but blast the doors open about sexuality. to complain, even if you are joking, about certain characters not being available is....just never enough is it?

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LPPrince wrote...

While I'm perfectly fine with Sam and Cortez being restricted to one sex, I found it extremely odd that Ashley was kept straight and not made bisexual like Kaidan.


Kaiden wasn't made bisexual, it was clear in ME1 he was bisexual.  But biowares stance was that Male Shep was straight.  Reversing that mindset, kaiden becomes open to male shep in 3.  

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PsychoWARD23 wrote...

Traynor's lesbian?

Awwwww


Toss on a wig and tuck it in.

Hey, it worked for Buffalo Bill.

*hums "Goodbye Horses"*

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Bobrzy wrote...



I wouldn't mind one or two bisexual characters, but making everyone in the game bisexual is just absurd.


truth.. also I think I was reported for my opinion?  Image IPB

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Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

PsychoWARD23 wrote...

Traynor's lesbian?

Awwwww


Toss on a wig and tuck it in.

Hey, it worked for Buffalo Bill.

*hums "Goodbye Horses"*


I just spat my soda out of my nose. I hope you're happy. :lol::lol::lol:

As for me. No I won't be happy as long as someone's restricted. I really wanted my dude Shep to romance Garrus. Like burning. :crying:

Modifié par Ryzaki, 18 mars 2012 - 05:14 .


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Ryzaki wrote...
As for me. No I won't be happy as long as someone's restricted. I really wanted my dude Shep to romance Garrus. Like burning. :crying:

Garrus is a established character, and making him bi would be hurtful to the story. Steve and Samantha are also decently designed characters, and "bending" story just to fit the play would make it seem forced.

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HTTP 404 wrote...

give me a break. In real life I can't make some hot lesbian date me


Maybe you cant (and I couldnt either, I admit that) but there are men who can.
It all comes down to how much you leveled Charisma. Sadly I made the mistake to go with mainly intelligenceB)

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Ryzaki wrote...

I would prefer all bi LIs myself though.

Gives me more ways to play since I don't tend to play female voiced protagonists. (and in BW games can't stand playing them).

@Above poster: And I'm sure there's those who feel no pity for certain screechers in FFTL not getting what they want either. Maybe if I saw some decent femShep players trying to at least argue against that but none of them are. So it sours me on the whole group. Probably not right of me but eh. It's not like my opinion matters to them (or vice versa) so no loss.

As for generalizing. I'm not. Not once have I said they're all like that. Merely that I can't feel much sympathy because of the ones that DO act like that.


Well, hey. You understand the plight from FemShep players. Suppose that's what matters in the grand scheme of it. Poor execution from anyone can sour just about anything, but I'm definitely sure there's enough of that going around on the forums as it is. :/

Modifié par Xyraphius, 18 mars 2012 - 05:24 .


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Bobrzy wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
As for me. No I won't be happy as long as someone's restricted. I really wanted my dude Shep to romance Garrus. Like burning. :crying:

Garrus is a established character, and making him bi would be hurtful to the story. Steve and Samantha are also decently designed characters, and "bending" story just to fit the play would make it seem forced.


Actually Garrus not being open to Male Shep doesnt make sense at all because, him being a Turian, Male and Female Shepard are BOTH about as wrong, and visually unattractive, to him as a cow would be to a human.
No, actually more so because a cow has the same kind of Amino Acids and is therefore about a billion times more similar to humans than turians are.

Sad but true.

Modifié par Tirigon, 18 mars 2012 - 05:25 .


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But that doesn't implicitly make sense. They're similar enough that sexual attraction can occur, although probably not purely from the physical side unless either party has a very particular fetish. In that regard, both Tali and Liara make more sense. And Thane, I guess.

Now, if Shepard had been a Yahg...