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It isn't fair that *very minor spoilers* Steve and Samantha are exclusive to one sex.


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Should have made Vega a straight romance. That way most people could have been happy. 2 straight (Ash/Vega), 2 bi (Liara/Kaidan) and 2 ****** (Samantha and Steve).

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As far as I see it - either LI characters are all bisexual, and it's less 'realistic' (as though the romances are anyway) but everyone can romance the character they want. Or straight/bi/gay characters are all included, and there's more 'realism'.

So long as it doesn't go back to 'straight player characters get the full LI buffet, but gay/bi ones get a limited serving'.

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

Should have made Vega a straight romance. That way most people could have been happy. 2 straight (Ash/Vega), 2 bi (Liara/Kaidan) and 2 ****** (Samantha and Steve).


Agreed. TBH I am really surprised he isnt, when I told him nicknames are a no-go and he said "Your loss" I figured that usually he WOULD be one and I just turned him away forever (which, of course, was the reason I did).

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It cheapens the characters to make all of them bi. It's like real life, there are straight people, there are bi people, and there are gay people. It's not just "Here, take all of these characters and f*ck them!" The characters are like real people. Cortez is gay, so what? He doesn't like women, that's part of his character. Garrus is straight. Ok, that's fine. He doesn't like guys. Why is it unfair? That's like saying life is unfair because you like someone who's gay.

Ok, that may be a little unfair, but again, it's like real life, and real life isn't fair.

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Tirigon wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Should have made Vega a straight romance. That way most people could have been happy. 2 straight (Ash/Vega), 2 bi (Liara/Kaidan) and 2 ****** (Samantha and Steve).


Agreed. TBH I am really surprised he isnt, when I told him nicknames are a no-go and he said "Your loss" I figured that usually he WOULD be one and I just turned him away forever (which, of course, was the reason I did).


Eh Vega should've been bi. Yeah it wouldn't have been even but the previous two games aren't even. Plus Traynor and Steve aren't squaddie LIs. If their MUST be a new straight LI only it should've been Adams or something.

Plus you get the your loss bit with dude Shep too. :whistle:

Modifié par Ryzaki, 18 mars 2012 - 07:20 .


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Ryzaki wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Should have made Vega a straight romance. That way most people could have been happy. 2 straight (Ash/Vega), 2 bi (Liara/Kaidan) and 2 ****** (Samantha and Steve).


Agreed. TBH I am really surprised he isnt, when I told him nicknames are a no-go and he said "Your loss" I figured that usually he WOULD be one and I just turned him away forever (which, of course, was the reason I did).


Eh Vega should've been bi. Yeah it wouldn't have been even but the previous two games aren't even. Plus Traynor and Steve aren't squaddie LIs. If their MUST be a new straight LI only it should've been Adams or something.

Plus you get the your loss bit with dude Shep too. :whistle:


I initially thought Vega was going to be gay anyway. Glad Bioware handled the romances the way they did, I romanced Ashley, and was nice to Cortez, but the game never started up a love triangle unintentionally like in the other games.

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Logan Cloud wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Should have made Vega a straight romance. That way most people could have been happy. 2 straight (Ash/Vega), 2 bi (Liara/Kaidan) and 2 ****** (Samantha and Steve).


Agreed. TBH I am really surprised he isnt, when I told him nicknames are a no-go and he said "Your loss" I figured that usually he WOULD be one and I just turned him away forever (which, of course, was the reason I did).


Eh Vega should've been bi. Yeah it wouldn't have been even but the previous two games aren't even. Plus Traynor and Steve aren't squaddie LIs. If their MUST be a new straight LI only it should've been Adams or something.

Plus you get the your loss bit with dude Shep too. :whistle:


I initially thought Vega was going to be gay anyway. Glad Bioware handled the romances the way they did, I romanced Ashley, and was nice to Cortez, but the game never started up a love triangle unintentionally like in the other games.


Likewise, when my male shepard mentioned the "hard bed" I thought it was leading to a romance but I was wrong.

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Yeah that was kind of weird. =/

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Logan Cloud wrote...

I initially thought Vega was going to be gay anyway. Glad Bioware handled the romances the way they did, I romanced Ashley, and was nice to Cortez, but the game never started up a love triangle unintentionally like in the other games.

Yeah, I liked how you could indirectly point at "sorry pal, I'm straight" when Cortez tried to make a pass at you.
It felt much more believable and realistic to have him "testing the water" and Shep answering "I prefer women" than the ridiculous DA2 way.

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Logan Cloud wrote...
It's like real life,


No it isnt, unless you can show me a live salarian somewhere.
Your argument is invalid.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Eh Vega should've been bi.


Indeed, because all bi is the best.

it is just that, personally, I dont care much because I play exclusively female characters whenever you get to choose your character's gender.

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Having exclusively homosexual characters in a video game is a huge step forward in the way of progress, tolerance and acceptance. Not everyone is bisexual, there are exclusive homosexuals out there.

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I was pretty upset about being unable to romance the Mako

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I'm a little bummed Vega wasn't a LI option for femsheps. He was a cutie and it would have evened out the fact that femshep doesn't seem to get as many options, and is sorta slapped in the face twice with Thane and Jacob. Seems like my femshep will just have to stick with Kaidan every play-through. I don't mind, though -- Kaidan's character improved a lot in many ways since the first game. :D

As far as it being "not fair", I'm a straight woman, but I'm thinking many gay or bi players found it not fair when they were really interested in a strictly heterosexual character. So now, everyone knows what it is like, haha. Besides... I do prefer the more realistic approach of having a little bit of every kind of person...rather than having everyone bi just so anyone can romance anyone. It's just so weird to me... not every single character would be bi. Not every single one would be straight or gay, most likely, either. I like the variety. Adds character.

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Akka le Vil wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

I initially thought Vega was going to be gay anyway. Glad Bioware handled the romances the way they did, I romanced Ashley, and was nice to Cortez, but the game never started up a love triangle unintentionally like in the other games.

Yeah, I liked how you could indirectly point at "sorry pal, I'm straight" when Cortez tried to make a pass at you.
It felt much more believable and realistic to have him "testing the water" and Shep answering "I prefer women" than the ridiculous DA2 way.


Yeah, I like how it set it up as Shep and Cortez scoping out the respective talent for their sides and the two of them becoming great friends anyway.

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KaptainKyle wrote...

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I nearly died when I read this.

 

I'm laughing so hard I can't breathe because  I read in the exact voice that OP would say  it in.. can't stop laughing. 

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Ryzaki wrote...

Eh Vega should've been bi. Yeah it wouldn't have been even but the previous two games aren't even. Plus Traynor and Steve aren't squaddie LIs.

It doesn't really matter with Steve, since content-wise (both romance and non-romance scenes) he's basically a squadmate. Tali for example got less than him. Agree on Traynor though

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I just thought it bites that after three games my Shep is still single, I had high hopes for Allers, but Traynor is the one who got the personality....she, Kasumi and Gianna are the only non-ruthless mature women to grace Sheps life in the series (and I love Chess)...and she's a lesbian....:(....Ruthless or childish REALLY do not appeal....Cardboard has no appeal also 'Allers'...<_<

Modifié par Golden Owl, 18 mars 2012 - 11:17 .


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EionaCousland wrote...

As far as it being "not fair", I'm a straight woman, but I'm thinking many gay or bi players found it not fair when they were really interested in a strictly heterosexual character. So now, everyone knows what it is like, haha. Besides... I do prefer the more realistic approach of having a little bit of every kind of person...rather than having everyone bi just so anyone can romance anyone. It's just so weird to me... not every single character would be bi. Not every single one would be straight or gay, most likely, either. I like the variety. Adds character.


This. It seems petty for me as a straight gamer to complain that some characters were gay-only when gay gamers barely have any games with gay-only LI's.

On a different note, I am totally fine with the "everyone is bi" romances in Dragon Age II. The game's great strength was in its characters so I liked interacting with the four LI's with my different Hawkes in different capacities, regardless of gender. I am also fine with Mass Effect's "some people are gay, some people are bi, some people are straight approach." One doesn't have to be better than the other as long as you're striving towards inclusiveness.

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Eh, I have to say I was very disappointed when I assumed I was working toward something with Traynor only for her to turn me down minutes after I was hit on by a dude I did not care to be hit on by. Maybe an orientation option at the beginning of the game would be nice to avoid the feelings involved with being shot down as such? lol

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I think romance options should always be gender inclusive.

It's a great thing to have characters that are exclusively gay or exclusively straight, but I don't like that we're still stuck in a situation where one type of character development is locked off because of you playing a male or female character.

More content for everyone!

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Since ME2, I thought Shepard was straight, mainly because of Jack, who said she was bi and my FemShep could'nt romance her. I was proved wrong when she ended under the shower with Sam. (btw she's as obviously gay as Cortez guys XD) But here's the thing : She was into Ash since Eden Prime, was always nice to her, even making bad decisions for her and never had an opening ! I would have liked that she at least turned her down :(

So back to the topic, I don't mind strictly gay characters, I don't mind "everyone's bi" policy, but I do mind substance in a character. How come Shepard became suddenly aware he/she could be gay ? Oo

(Like Liara says, Asari don't count ^^)

Modifié par Miiaah, 19 mars 2012 - 07:29 .


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I prefer having set sexualities in ME3. Was hilarious to see samantha reject maleshep. :D

Edit: However I think I would prefer more content for a romance... if making only a few, bisexual romances meant better romance content, then I would be up for that.

Modifié par Apathy1989, 19 mars 2012 - 08:33 .


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DA2 had 4 companions out of 6 as bi, which is ridiculous, much better done in ME3 and less annoying.

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Captian Cornhole wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

While I'm perfectly fine with Sam and Cortez being restricted to one sex, I found it extremely odd that Ashley was kept straight and not made bisexual like Kaidan.


Well you shouldn't be perfectly fine, additudes like that are what help bring about this mess. Give me a good reason why Steve and Samantha should strictly be gay romance options.


Because there are so many straight characters in the game.

I can see why you would want everyone to be bi, but then start with complaining about Ashley, Garrus, Tali, Thane and Jack. Why start with two minor non-squad characters who only appeared in ME3?

Modifié par Atarun, 19 mars 2012 - 01:09 .