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[Siansonea]

Same old song and dance. I've always wondered why these Concerned Heterosexuals™ are so freaked out by Teh Gay. Is it a "lead us not into temptation" thing?

[Maugrim]

Siansonea II wrote...

Same old song and dance. I've always wondered why these Concerned Heterosexuals™ are so freaked out by Teh Gay. Is it a "lead us not into temptation" thing?

Funny how they always manage to find the way by themselves though isn't it...

[Deviija]

Ugh, this again. The devs have already stated that there will be no sexuality toggles or 'selection of sexuality' at the beginning of the game. They have no desire to shield people from the real world, or somehow segregate content based off someone's homophobia.

[Maria Caliban]

SparkyRich wrote...

Funny you should say that - I had that thought a while back.  However, even in remote tribal societies where there are often fewer than 10 individuals per square mile there are occurences of homosexual behavior.

What causes it?  Who knows?  Does it affect me in the slightest?  Almost never, and when a guy hits on me I just politely tell him that I'm not interested in men - situation handled.

Cooperative breeding. The same reason post-menopausal women and post-sexually fit men exist. Unlike some species, child rearing takes up lots of time and energy. More than one person can manage.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 15 avril 2012 - 01:23 .

[Jestina]

[quote]Russalka wrote......
Some are in the mentality that it's okay
for him to indulge in socially unacceptable behaviour because he pulled
out his ****** card(something like the race card).[/quote]
What unacceptable behaviour?
[/quote]

Hitting on a person you know is involved with someone. Very sleazy. My only complaint about that scene was that there was no renegade option to tell him off, like my femshep can do when dealing with Vega. And Kaidan has never really hit on my femshep, probably because I leave him to rot on Virmire.

Modifié par Jestina, 15 avril 2012 - 03:14 .

[daecath]

AH, oh no! You might catch gayness! That's even worse than cooties!

Actually, I think there should be some tweaks to all the romances. I feel so awful being mean to Kaiden in ME1, but the only way you can get him to take the hint that you're not interested is if you crush his spirit. Seriously? You can't have a nice conversation without them thinking you're hitting on them? And you can't let them down gently, you have to kick them away like an overexcited puppy?

[Emzamination]

IsaacShep wrote...

Jestina wrote...

Some are in the mentality that it's okay for him to indulge in socially unacceptable behaviour because he pulled out his ****** card(something like the race card).

You're just getting ridiculous now. You do realize he proposes relationship to FemShep as well if she hasn't locked-in any romance yet? I didn't see you whine "omg Kaidan is indulging in socially unacceptable behaviour with FemShep!". Neither did I see you whine about Diana Allers who also asks if you're interested in her if you haven't locked-in any romance yet. I don't see you whining how Jack or Tali are hitting on Shepard in ME2 DESPITE knowing (especially Tali) that he is involved with Ash/Liara. No, you're only talking Kaidan. What a coincidence. Who are you trying to fool?

My GayShep has been turning down quadrillion flirts and sex/relationship offers in ME1, ME2 and ME3, before he finally could get together with Cortez or Kaidan and here you are whining because you had to turn down freaking 1 guy? Who accepts is so politely he immediately tells you he still considers you a great friend? Seriously

Femshep and kaidan are socially acceptable

[darthclide]

again, as I have stated before, this shouldn't eliminate gays/bis from the game, it would only enhance dialogue with the people you will be interested in... It will make our Shephard that much more enjoyable where if you want to be with Cortez (you chose gay), you will have more romantic dialogue options to choose from every time you talk to him, and if you chose Ashley (straight) you would have more romantic options to choose from when talking with her. Again, this would by no means make gays disappear from the game, or bisexuals. It would only change how much dialogue you get with these people.

This is a win/win situation and do not see how this could not be implemented in a great way...

*side note* I think it would be nice if you had a "romance" symbol next to dialogue options. As well as an option to straight up tell a person from the gate, that you don't want to be in a relationship with them as you want to be with someone else. That way, it isn't dependent on you getting together with your romance interest 1/3 into the game to block out romance with others (this is a flaw in my opinion). But make it so that 1/16 of the way in (after you leave mars maybe), if you are hard set on 1 person and 1 person only, then you can instantly say "no to you" and "no to you" right off the bat. That way you can avoid people hitting on you when you already know who you want to be with (I am Tali all the way hehe)

[RDMundella]

Planeforger wrote...

They should have made the game more realistic, and randomly selected your sexuality for you at the start of the game, without you being aware of it.

So, for example, a fifth of the Shepards in Mass Effect 3 might find out that they've actually been in the closet all along (if not earlier in the series).

Why has no RPG done this yet?

that would be way unrealistic ... there is nothing random about it.  the way its set up now as a set of choices better reflects the sexuality choice people make for themselves now.

[RDMundella]

Deviija wrote...

Ugh, this again. The devs have already stated that there will be no sexuality toggles or 'selection of sexuality' at the beginning of the game. They have no desire to shield people from the real world, or somehow segregate content based off someone's homophobia.

aw that sucks ... if i wanted the depressing state of real life pressed upon me i wouldnt be playing a video game ...

... theres no escape now ...

[NGC1300]

homophobe is homophobe, **** all you want, the devs won't care. btw, having trouble with fictional characters is even more pathetic, he's not even real. how desperate someone can be.

[Ushanka]

I support this idea. Because this is disgusting to me, that principal hero might be gay.

[RDMundella]

well that and they are basically calling for an entire second game with different dialog options/interactions with every character in the game. they havent made it to the point where you can talk to non major npcs ... something of that nature puts far more depth into the game than being able to decide a sexual preference.

[EricHVela]

For the OP who has a problem with guys hitting on his broShep:

• Lose Kaidan in ME1 or ME3. It's easy to evade Cortez's remarks. If you chose "What about me?" in response to Cortez's "nice view" comment, you asked for it.
• If you made your Shepard keep Kaidan alive in both ME1 and ME3, have your Shepard trade Kaidan in for extra TMS credits (+25) when Kaidan asks to join the Normandy. Kaidan doesn't act upset about it. It's still easy to avoid hearing Cortez's advances.
• If you made your Shepard keep Kaidan and ask him to join the Normandy (missing the chance for +25 TMS), make your Shepard go after someone else first when your Shepard returns to the Citadel after the Cerberus coup attempt. Kaidan's conversation will "not even go there" if you've done that with your Shepard. It's still easy to avoid Cortez's comments, but if you choose "What about me?" in this situation (which is still your own fault), Cortez will acknowledge he likes what he sees in your Shepard but Cortez will also say that he knows your Shepard swings a different way.
• If you don't want your Shepard romancing anyone and you had your Shepard keep Kaidan alive and let Kaidan to join the Normandy, don't make your Shepard talk to Kaidan when your Shepard returns to the Citadel after the Cerberus Coup attempt. Kaidan has nothing else to say after that conversation anyway. Again, it's really easy to shut down Cortez before he "hits on" your Shepard during his conversation without upsetting him.

Problem solved (though reading what I wrote, I don't know how it's a problem).

Modifié par ReggarBlane, 14 mai 2012 - 01:36 .

[Wittand25]

ReggarBlane wrote...

For the OP who has a problem with guys hitting on his broShep:

• Lose Kaidan in ME1 or ME3. It's easy to evade Cortez's remarks. If you chose "What about me?" in response to Cortez's "nice view" comment, you asked for it.
  
  
  
• If you made your Shepard keep Kaidan alive in both ME1 and ME3, have your Shepard trade Kaidan in for extra TMS credits (+25) when Kaidan asks to join the Normandy. Kaidan doesn't act upset about it. It's still easy to avoid hearing Cortez's advances.
  
  
  
• If you made your Shepard keep Kaidan and ask him to join the Normandy (missing the chance for +25 TMS), make your Shepard go after someone else first when your Shepard returns to the Citadel after the Cerberus coup attempt. Kaidan's conversation will "not even go there" if you've done that with your Shepard. It's still easy to avoid Cortez's comments, but if you choose "What about me?" in this situation (which is still your own fault), Cortez will acknowledge he likes what he sees in your Shepard but Cortez will also say that he knows your Shepard swings a different way.
  
  
• If you don't want your Shepard romancing anyone and you had your Shepard keep Kaidan alive and let Kaidan to join the Normandy, don't make your Shepard talk to Kaidan when your Shepard returns to the Citadel after the Cerberus Coup attempt. Kaidan has nothing else to say after that conversation anyway. Again, it's really easy to shut down Cortez before he "hits on" your Shepard during his conversation without upsetting him.

Problem solved (though reading what I wrote, I don't know how it's a problem).

I don´t think that this advive, though one hundret percent spot on, will help anyone of those complaining about it. They do so ever since JE and in that game it was impossible to get any unwanted s/s action. Heck it was hard enough to start the M/Sky romance that I had to look it up in the forums.


[*]You needed to first be a total jerk to the girls.


[*]Then when Sky asks you why you don´t care for girls, you have to tell him that you are into him.


[*]He then even asks for a confirmation that you are really flirting with him, and you can still say just kidding.


[*]Yet there are still people complaining that they have been tricked into the romance. Honestly those who are still complaining about ninja mancing in DA2 or ME3 probably should do some introspection why they are apparently unable to pass the opportunity to flirt with other guys. 

Modifié par Wittand25, 14 mai 2012 - 02:12 .

[EricHVela]

Wittand25 wrote...

Yet there are still people complaining that they have been tricked into the romance. Honestly those who are still complaining about ninja mancing in DA2 or ME3 probably should do some introspection why they are apparently unable to pass the opportunity to flirt with other guys. 

True.

Someone a while back complained that their kid found Kaidan's gay romance and followed it all the way through to the conclusion. Of course, the entire forum jumped on the user for the user letting their kid play an M-Rated game by themselves. I'm not saying the BSNers were wrong by any means. (I agree with them, just not the way they went about it.)

It was really the fault of that kid's parent.

Still if an adult is not aware of the new possibility with Kaidan, they might be caught off-guard once when Kaidan proposes a relationship to broShep but only once. After that, it's completely avoidable with a little self-control.

When it comes to Cortez, there's no excuse. He doesn't hit on broShep until broShep hits on him.

Modifié par ReggarBlane, 14 mai 2012 - 07:27 .

[Ushanka]

Well, you know, it all sounds good, but problem in this, that Shepard might be gay... There is opportunity of it. That's what I don't like.
(only my opinion)

[EricHVela]

Ushanka wrote...

Well, you know, it all sounds good, but problem in this, that Shepard might be gay... There is opportunity of it. That's what I don't like.
(only my opinion)

There was an opportunity that femShep might be gay starting in ME1. (Kaidan can confirm this if she tries to romance Liara.) Was there a problem there?

If it's not okay for broShep to have an option but okay for femShep, there's a problem there.

If it's not okay for your broShep, your broShep gets to act appropriately. There's the option that your broShep is not gay if you simply choose it.

Otherwise, it sounds like you are saying it is not okay for other people to choose another option that they might prefer.

Putting in an option at the beginning of the game still does not remove the opportunity for broShep to be gay. It only moves it from one location in the game to another.

[Frozen83]

Ushanka wrote...

Well, you know, it all sounds good, but problem in this, that Shepard might be gay... There is opportunity of it. That's what I don't like.
(only my opinion)

80 years ago people would have complained that Shepard might be a girl. 40 years ago black. Today gay....
First, it is a game. Second, it is your game, you choose you Shepard to be what you want them to be. I don't see how could the existance of my gay Shepard on my computer offend you and your Shepard on your computer. M.

[FaWa]

Why are people only complaining about this now? There have been plenty of lesbian romances to ninjamance in all 3 games. Of course, when there are guys, now its a problem....
**** you guys, grow up, and get over it. 

[FaWa]

pingupower wrote...

I don't want to be a jerk but I think it would indeed be nice to limit the same sex thing. Kaidan hitting on my male shep (or Cortez for that matter) is rather unsettling (IRL a guy makes advances I headbutt him Krogan-style).

I'd put money on this guy being a 5'1 100 pound wimp. Probably why he hasn't needed to headbutt any crazy gay people away, not even girls go for him...

[Sarcastic Tasha]

FemShep seems to be more of a flirt to me. She flirts with Jacob without my permission in ME2. She flirts with Kelly in ME3 (although I did make her flirt with Kelly in ME2 so maybe she just remembered she fancies her). She flirted with Vega to tease him and she even made a flirty remark to EDI as a joke. The Jacob thing was thing only thing that bugged me but that can be avoided if you mostly ignore him.

As for other people hitting on Shepard, that's life. My Shep didn't fancy Kaidan but she didn't freak out about it, well okay she kind of told him to ****** off (I hoped she was going to let him down gently but what can you do) but meh its only Kaidan.