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[Soverign 666]

 Ok let me start off by saying I support the Retake movement I would love a new ending DLC but I think you guys have really overestimated how much you can "force" Bioware/EA to give you new endings by hurting them financially. Lets look at a few things.

1. Most of you have already bought the game. Bioware/EA already has your money and you are the most vocal opposition to the game. But through word of mouth we can hurt sales you say? Well....

2. Most people wont care about the endings. Let's face it most gamers are concerned about gameplay and when they hear 99% of of the game is amazing but the last 5-15 minutes suck they're still going to buy the game. As for people who are invested in the game series and want a satisfying conclusion they probably A: already bought the game B: Will want to see how it ends no matter how bad it is C: Will convince themselves it couldn't really be that bad.

3. You guys have a bad reputation. So let's say Im looking into buying ME3 unlike most people (who will buy off how the game looks) I do some research I here some fans are complaining about the ending. I read some articles about how you guys are "entitled whiners" (I don't support this view). Also BSN has been infamous for being nitpicky and unpleasable.

In the end you guys might cause a slight drop in sales but you arent going to do enough damage to "force" bioware/EA to do anything. I've seen some military analogys about how your "Overwhelming bioware" but I'd like to make my own analogy. Bioware has already won your just the gurillea fighters harrassing them. You might cause enough of an annoyance to make them appease you but you won't drive them out. The truth of the matter is we fans are driven by emotion instead of logic we will fight even when we know we can't win.

 

[OSUfan12121]

Thats why major news affiliates are reporting and even supporting us then?

[MassEffect762]

lol using Sovs lines.

[DaringMoosejaw]

Well, I guess you're right! Pack it up everybody, I guess we ought to be totally satisfied with the ending and just forget any of this ever happened.

[jb1983]

trolololol

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

OSUfan12121 wrote...

Thats why major news affiliates are reporting and even supporting us then?

LOL!   "Major news affiliates."

[Aver88]

Well, I already have seen videos on YT about "fans" that watched ending on YT after they heard that ending is terribad, just to see how bad it is, and when they saw how bad it is they decided they won't buy ME3.

[incinerator950]

If I was serious about this, I would have been banned for calling the community out as a bunch of morons who need mental evaluations.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

Well, I guess you're right! Pack it up everybody, I guess we ought to be totally satisfied with the ending and just forget any of this ever happened.

You don't have to pack it in, but you should stop pretending that volume means the same as numbers.

[KaeserZen]

In reply to the OP's points.

1- Sure we've bought it, but we're not asking for a refund. Although we could, based on sales promises that were extremely misleading, and sometimes outright 180° away from the actual content. BioWare is known for its ability to deliver what they said they will, and they will refrain to saying anything unless it's been set in stone (They were very silent about TOR during the dev period)

2 - Whether you want it or not, you get invested in the characters, even if you started with ME3 like some people will (although I'm sure the bunk of the sales come from people who own/finished ME2). "Most gamers" as you call them, are not interested in complex, convoluted endings that require to write a thesis to fully analyze. They would want something a lot more straightforward with your character living, because it is what happens in most games, and I'm sure everybody will notice it does not make sense.

3. The second post has said it all.

[Endersgone]

This won't end well...

[revo76]

2. Most people wont care about the endings. Let's face it most gamers are concerned about gameplay and when they hear 99% of of the game is amazing but the last 5-15 minutes suck they're still going to buy the game.

Correct. Because most of the ME3 players are actually TPS players, not RPG. I would like to see the percentage of how many people actually imported ME2 save and how many people actually imported ME1 save to ME2. 

3. You guys have a bad reputation. So let's say Im looking into buying ME3 unlike most people (who will buy off how the game looks) I do some research I here some fans are complaining about the ending. I read some articles about how you guys are "entitled whiners" (I don't support this view). Also BSN has been infamous for being nitpicky and unpleasable.

According to your theory:

When you see endings, you'll be one of us  dont worry. 

Modifié par revo76, 18 mars 2012 - 04:48 .

[DrDetective]

Volume doesn't mean the same as numbers, but we have both.

[Cartims]

We shall overcome.....

[Unit-Alpha]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

OSUfan12121 wrote...

Thats why major news affiliates are reporting and even supporting us then?

LOL!   "Major news affiliates."

Forbes, CNN, and Fox News aren't major?

Do you live in the US or any Western country?

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 18 mars 2012 - 04:49 .

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Cartims wrote...

We shall overcome.....

No, you won't.  :-)

[cyrrant]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

Well, I guess you're right! Pack it up everybody, I guess we ought to be totally satisfied with the ending and just forget any of this ever happened.

You don't have to pack it in, but you should stop pretending that volume means the same as numbers.

Oh, it doesn't.  But there sure are a lot of us.  More than you think, I think.

Our choices should matter: Hold the Line

[Soverign 666]

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

Well, I guess you're right! Pack it up everybody, I guess we ought to be totally satisfied with the ending and just forget any of this ever happened.

No that's not what I said. You can convince bioware and ea that they would stand to make a greater profit by releasing a new ending dlc. Im just saying you need a change in tactics.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Forbes, CNN, and Fox News aren't major?

Their "geek's are cool!" blogs/marketing mentioned the story, but they're not =covering= you.  There's a difference. 

[Kanon777]

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

Well, I guess you're right! Pack it up everybody, I guess we ought to be totally satisfied with the ending and just forget any of this ever happened.

Read what he actually said, he supports the movement to retakeME3 but some acts seem pointless to him, thats all he is not telling you to stop asking for the ending dlc

[Spectre Impersonator]

Pretty sure we're banking on Bioware caring enough to change the endings, not hurting them by taking their money. At least that's my angle and I believe Bioware (more than any other developer) does care about it's loyal fans.

[RLesueur]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

OSUfan12121 wrote...

Thats why major news affiliates are reporting and even supporting us then?

LOL!   "Major news affiliates."

Well, it was reported by CNN.

They're pretty major.

Just saying...

(Should I tell a quick joke now so I don't look like I'm taking myself too seriously?)

[MisterP146]

OSUfan12121 wrote...

Thats why major news affiliates are reporting and even supporting us then?

This is very true.

While there have been indeed negative comments in the news media about the situation. There has also been a significant amount of support. Everything from major game review publishers to small-time online media has either agreed with the fans sentiments or supported our endeavor.

[sAxMoNkI]

I'd rather say I tried and failed than passively let this happen with no reaction. Besdies if you don't let a company know they've done wrong by you or have gone too far then how will they ever know where the line is? Gotta let them know where the boundaries are.