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#51
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Yes, it needs to be removed. That way I can go into matches and troll them hard by never pressing ready.

umad bro?

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Drummernate wrote...

stribies wrote...

Filter option would be amazing.
Filter out all the noobs!


Adepts [X]
Soldiers [  ]
Sentinels [  ]
Engineers [X]
Infiltrators [X]
Vanguards [  ]

Noob filter: [ON]


i'd like a race filter too

That way i can always play with krogan. 

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I think a chat box in the lobby would be nice for people who don't have a mic, at least so people might be given a chance to defend themselves or let the other people know if they have to run to the door or something before the match starts.

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...


i'd like a race filter too

That way i can always play with krogan. 


 

I could see this being much hillarity. :D

Modifié par PX6DEVASTATER, 18 mars 2012 - 06:58 .


#54
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Perhaps a new MP gamer plays single player on Insanity with ease. Kicking them based on their MP level could spite yourself. A MP rank only indicates use of MP. Everyone can level up in MP regardless of skill. Judge a player by their in game actions. Kicking based on rank is disgusting and asinine.

Edit: With that said, there are valid reasons to vote for kicking. Removing it would be silly.

Modifié par zambingo, 18 mars 2012 - 07:02 .


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The kicking system is already as thought out as it needs to be. It's the whiners that need to get over being kicked. You got voted out, big deal, move on.

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zambingo wrote...

Perhaps a new MP gamer plays single player on Insanity with ease. Kicking them based on their MP level could spite yourself. A MP rank only indicates use of MP. Everyone can level up in MP regardless of skill. Judge a player by their in game actions. Kicking based on rank is disgusting and asinine.

Edit: With that said, there are valid reasons to vote for kicking. Removing it would be silly.

This.

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TexasToast712 wrote...

Cthulad wrote...

when a N7 lvl 5 gets into a silver challenge match, and doesn't get the hint to leave, I'm sorry but I won't leave a lobby I'm hosting, I'll put a kick ticket.

When a whole lobby has been waiting for over 5 minutes for 1 guy who isn't doing anything (checking, he's not changing weapons, not putting on equipment and choosing powers doesn't take that long) I will put a kick ticket.

It's a necessary feature, sorry you got kicked, I got kicked a couple times, I just looked for another lobby.

Nothing wrong with low levels in silver. Especially if you are a good enough player to help them along. Kicing someone because someone is lower than you IS elitism at it's finest.


That i agree with!
Its the abuse of kicking that made me start this

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ReVision92 wrote...

I'm sick of scrubs kicking me.
higher N7 and better weapons and i get tossed. What a joke.
Just make level requirements like Silver = 5+ Gold = 10+
These elitest are a f***ing joke 

People don't want me in their match

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THEY MUST BE ELITESTS!

Also, lvl 5 for silver and 10 for gold are WAY too low.

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TexasToast712 wrote...
Nothing wrong with low levels in silver. Especially if you are a good enough player to help them along. Kicing someone because someone is lower than you IS elitism at it's finest.


Kicking a N7 5 in Silver is not elitism, it's common sense and education at it's finest.
 
Low level N7 players should stick to bronze, it's in every beginner guide around.

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Only reason for me to kick someone, is when they take their goddamn sweet time to push that ready button.

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No such thing as kicking being abused, it requires the rest of the team to agree they don't want you in their match.

That isn't abuse of power, that is democracy in action.

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God you people its just a game. I hope you dont kick noobs out of bronze. If you get kicked just go to another lobby stop taking it so personally.

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Hyunsai wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...
Nothing wrong with low levels in silver. Especially if you are a good enough player to help them along. Kicing someone because someone is lower than you IS elitism at it's finest.


Kicking a N7 5 in Silver is not elitism, it's common sense and education at it's finest.
 
Low level N7 players should stick to bronze, it's in every beginner guide around.


How do you know that a low level N7 player hasn't played the demo to N7 120 and beyond?

Yesterday, i played 5 silvermatches, with a lowlevel N7 player, he brought a lvl 5 sentinel. I was on my 20 drell adept, and 2 infiltrators around lvl 18 or so.

Did we get to extraction all 5 times? Yes

Did the level 5 die alot? Not compared to the infiltrators

Did the level 5 help with the objectives? Yes, unlike the infiltrators who were busy herp derping with their sniper rifles not even covering the objective areas

Did the level 5 end up last on the scoreboard? NO He actually got 3rd place...

Stop the low level hate, stop the elitism, alot of "low N7 level" players are alot better than you are, and they're just getting started.

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Honestly if you can't get a few matches in at bronze to get even to level 10 before setting foot into silver then you deserve to get punted every single time. Having people who are sub level 5 (and to a lesser extent 10) in sliver + is about the equivalent to having an empty slot in game. There are exceptions but they are few and far between. I mean it takes what 3 bronze matches to get pretty damn close to 10ish if your half as good as you say you are. If you cannot do that then don't blame others if you get tossed out the door every time.(and rightfully so).

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Hyunsai wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...
Nothing wrong with low levels in silver. Especially if you are a good enough player to help them along. Kicing someone because someone is lower than you IS elitism at it's finest.


Kicking a N7 5 in Silver is not elitism, it's common sense and education at it's finest.
 
Low level N7 players should stick to bronze, it's in every beginner guide around.

You can't judge a player by a number near his name. Just like you can't judge a book by it's cover. For example. I know several players who are not even a Brig or General in Halo 3 or Reach (including myself), yet we can compete with the best. Even if the low level players aren't great, it is always fun to guide them on the path to victory and help them out, unless of course, you are just a elitist douchebag.

Modifié par TexasToast712, 18 mars 2012 - 07:31 .


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PapVogel wrote...

Hyunsai wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...
Nothing wrong with low levels in silver. Especially if you are a good enough player to help them along. Kicing someone because someone is lower than you IS elitism at it's finest.


Kicking a N7 5 in Silver is not elitism, it's common sense and education at it's finest.
 
Low level N7 players should stick to bronze, it's in every beginner guide around.


How do you know that a low level N7 player hasn't played the demo to N7 120 and beyond?



Dosen't matter he has **** gear.

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TexasToast712 wrote...

Hyunsai wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...
Nothing wrong with low levels in silver. Especially if you are a good enough player to help them along. Kicing someone because someone is lower than you IS elitism at it's finest.


Kicking a N7 5 in Silver is not elitism, it's common sense and education at it's finest.
 
Low level N7 players should stick to bronze, it's in every beginner guide around.

You can't judge a player by a number near his name. Just like you can't judge a book by it's cover. For example. I know several players who are not even a Brig or General in Halo 3 or Reach (including myself), yet we can compete with the best. Even if the low level players aren't great, it is always fun to guide them on the path to victory and help them out, unless of course, you are just a elitist douchebag.

There are exceptions but usually those people are of high N7 ranks with good weapons to make up for their lower level/ know the mobs we fight. When Captian N7 rank 1 lvl 1 with his go pro mantis is running around dieing to everything that farts in their general direction I would rather have no one in that slot than fight the urge to res them every time they die. I would kill for Bioware to put level restrictions on Siver and gold in terms of character level that way I don't have to boot people because they are just trying to freeload and its not like getting the first 10-12 levels is very hard. I'm not running a freee credit farming/leveling service for lower levels either. Since myself and the others in the match have to make up for the other person not pulling their own weight. Hell I've booted  N7 100+'s who get like 10k points in silver + because I'm not running this for their ejoyment at my expense.

Modifié par Doomnova01, 18 mars 2012 - 07:43 .


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There is a difference between someone wasting one's time and others not having any patience.

I had a couple of matches with a friend and the lobby was open for others to join in. He needed a couple of minutes in between in the lobby, buying some recruit packs (new to the full game MP), check and change weapons, apply equipment, that sorts of things.

Then one guy joined in and (I admit I didn't stop the time) a felt instant later put a kick ticket on my friend (who as the host by the way). When I asked who voted for kick, the guy responded, saying he shouldn't waste his time and *** ready up already (paraphrased, but was the same level of "politeness"). Then he left.

It was ridiculous. Put a vote kick on the host without a word, then, a miracle, actually had a mic he might just have used for asking politely if he's ready and then immediately left after it was clear that he's alone with that attitude. All instead if, well, just leaving in the first place or simply ask.

It's people like that idiot that abuse the kick-system, people whose patience runs exactly for ten seconds and then boils over, because we waste their oh so precious time.


You don't want to wait? Leave the lobby and join another game, but don't take your time pressure or impatience out on others.



GIFT working triple shifts with the new MP.

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Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

PapVogel wrote...

Hyunsai wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...
Nothing wrong with low levels in silver. Especially if you are a good enough player to help them along. Kicing someone because someone is lower than you IS elitism at it's finest.


Kicking a N7 5 in Silver is not elitism, it's common sense and education at it's finest.
 
Low level N7 players should stick to bronze, it's in every beginner guide around.


How do you know that a low level N7 player hasn't played the demo to N7 120 and beyond?



Dosen't matter he has **** gear.


Right because gear matters in this game where powers do so much more damage and aren't dependent on ammunition? 

Next!

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i can understand kicking low level characters in gold, but unless you're terrible at this game.. i don't really mind helping people through silver considering its easy as ****.  adds more excitement and you get a high score if you care about that.

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It's a double edged sword...A level 1 joins a Gold match, you obviously kick him...But I'm level60 and I know what I'm doing, yet I still get kicked from Golds...It's good and bad at times =/

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PapVogel wrote...

Right because gear matters in this game where powers do so much more damage and aren't dependent on ammunition? 

Next!


If you're playing anything that is weapon dependant(Soldier/Infiltrator mostly) then your gear does matter.

If you aren't, you're not going to have enough ability points at N7 5 to be effective at ability spam in Silver.

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PX6DEVASTATER wrote...

I think a chat box in the lobby would be nice for people who don't have a mic, at least so people might be given a chance to defend themselves or let the other people know if they have to run to the door or something before the match starts.

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...


i'd like a race filter too

That way i can always play with krogan. 


 

I could see this being much hillarity. :D


In the demo, I played a couple games where it was me with my fresh new Krogan, and three salarian infiltrators with snipers. I felt scared and tucked my genitals Posted Image


PapVogel wrote...

Hyunsai wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...
Nothing wrong with low levels in silver. Especially if you are a good enough player to help them along. Kicing someone because someone is lower than you IS elitism at it's finest.


Kicking a N7 5 in Silver is not elitism, it's common sense and education at it's finest.

Low level N7 players should stick to bronze, it's in every beginner guide around.


How do you know that a low level N7 player hasn't played the demo to N7 120 and beyond?

Yesterday, i played 5 silvermatches, with a lowlevel N7 player, he brought a lvl 5 sentinel. I was on my 20 drell adept, and 2 infiltrators around lvl 18 or so.

Did we get to extraction all 5 times? Yes

Did the level 5 die alot? Not compared to the infiltrators

Did the level 5 help with the objectives? Yes, unlike the infiltrators who were busy herp derping with their sniper rifles not even covering the objective areas

Did the level 5 end up last on the scoreboard? NO He actually got 3rd place...

Stop the low level hate, stop the elitism, alot of "low N7 level" players are alot better than you are, and they're just getting started.



And how do you know that level 5 isn't going to drop at the first wave when he tries to charge 4-5 cannibals and a marauder  or he doesn't go in cover while being fired at?

A silver game is already a pain to get a good group in, having a player that is potentially a drawback to the whole team (as we would have to revive him constantly to be sure we have his, albeit limited, output of damages) Unless the guy comes out and tell the group in the lobby that he's played the demo a lot and can help I'm sorry but I'm not taking the risk to waste 10-20 minutes on a game that can fail before the end of the sixth wave.
I have started many silver games with players ranked around 20 N7 and we failed before the sixth wave even arrived. I'm playing to get credits, and when I see 2 guys standing just outside the hacking circle for a little better cover to take some shots at ennemies, I know I've made a mistake.

ReVision can call us elitist and you others can call us idiots and snobs for choosing to kick someone out, but I have yet to see the exception.

To go back to the OP post, yes kick can be abused, so can the system of shared rewards/exp be leeched on. It's a game, there are functions that can be abused, ffs nothing is perfect.

PS: I played the demo till N7 rank over 100 myself, and I started the full game in bronze challenges like everyone else. 

PS2: And while gear doesn't really matter if you play a power heavy class. Consider that someone at class lvl 5 won't have really great powers yet (and will drop that much faster if he hasn't raised fitness at all to focus on the powers.)

Modifié par Cthulad, 18 mars 2012 - 07:46 .


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It's absolutely POINTLESS to play Silver with someone who will literally make our lives a living hell. We are playing in the hopes of an extraction, of any kind, not to die on wave 5.


Uh, you know there are plenty of people who can solo and duo silver right?  Silver isn't hard enough to be too concerned about class composition or whether or not the last guy who joins is a pro.  If you seriously think that one person joining your game is capable of making it a living hell you should probably stick to bronze.

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Cyonan wrote...

PapVogel wrote...

Right because gear matters in this game where powers do so much more damage and aren't dependent on ammunition? 

Next!


If you're playing anything that is weapon dependant(Soldier/Infiltrator mostly) then your gear does matter.

If you aren't, you're not going to have enough ability points at N7 5 to be effective at ability spam in Silver.


Gear really doesn't matter, even weapon dependant classes dont need uber gold / N7 weapons to be effective. Any damage or stagger is welcome in my games. I've seen lots of N7 100+ running around with uber gear but not being effective anyways, mostly because they're too busy trying to get to the top of the scoreboard so they can show everyone their huuuuge epeen.