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[bleachorange]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

darkshadow136 wrote...

The endings ruined the entire series of Mass Effect, not just ME3, if you liked it good for you. Many don't feel the way you do.

No,in fact I didn't like any of the endings at all. But a sane person doesn't let 1% ruin other 99%.

Are you qualified to determine a person's sanity?

Modifié par bleachorange, 18 mars 2012 - 06:20 .

[Ghost Warrior]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...
So the entire Mass Effect 3 sucked for you? Not just the endings?

-No. There were a few bugless moments that I very... VERY much enjoyed. But then the lack of interaction and the missing logic yanked me right back out. I found ME3 to OK untill the ending. Not great... but ok. 

However the endings retroactively destroyed the franchise for me because I cannot for the life of me see the point in loading up any of the other 12 toons I have on my harddrive. I just dont see the point if I only have the absolute most lazy ending possible availble.

Then I can't say anything other than that I feel sorry for you. I won't enjoy talking to Saren any less because I don't like what comes 80 hours after it.

[Farbautisonn]

Ghost Warrior wrote...
Then I can't say anything other than that I feel sorry for you. I won't enjoy talking to Saren any less because I don't like what comes 80 hours after it.

-I dont need nor want your pity. But grats on your enjoyment.

[bleachorange]

Bioware - tell me what I want to know, or the DLC gets it.

[P47 ace]

@ Ghost Warrior

dude you are in the serious minority here,

90% of the game was great. look at Angery Joes review and you can see the deves were kinda lazy,

weather they just didn't care anymore or ran out of time for what ever reason. you don't do 3 epic games just to ruin it in the last 10 min of the 3rd game with logic, lore, and plot-holes the size of a super-nova, something happend and majority of people want it changed so they can remeber the serie as it should be remember not the tarrible last 10 min of the game.

no one thinks it was a overall horrible, the perfected to combat system, had some form of inventory, and kept up the great narrative and diolog between charater. but the ending is just so bad it overshadows everything that was done right.

[starscreamerx31]

bleachorange wrote...

Let's get this straight - EA is a great publisher for marketing purposes. I mean, all the videos and unlockables and related merchandise really amped up the hype for ME3 (as they do for EA's other titles).
What they suck at is giving the developer enough time between release of a product and it's sequel to craft a product that is truly excellent. Look at Madden, at BF3, at ME3, at DA2. Each of these games had an accelerated development cycle. I guarantee you if Bioware was really scrambling for the endings of ME3 as depicted in ME3: Final Hours publication, they probably would have taken the time to come up with a good solution if not for EA.
If they weren't scrambling for time to finish it, it's either one gigantic troll by Bioware, or their judgement really sucked on this one.

haaa no joke dragon age origins was in development for a while where as dragon age 2 was in development for what like 1 year, hence the repeated dungeons and lack of story especially the main villain. Ea has always been real well known for burning out consumers with rushed products. Thats why i stll say i still love bioware and still have hope they can make this right. Its ea that blows and capitalizes in epic ip's for a quick cash grab. 

[darkshadow136]

Overule wrote...

Can I ask the Retake detractors a serious question? Do you expect Bioware will give you a cookie for your efforts at the end of the ordeal? Perhaps the head of IGN telling you to your face that you're smarter than everyone else for having lower standards? What is it specifically that would make you happy?

A proper set of endings that are not 95% the same, that is well written like the rest of the series, that answers the questions many of us would like to know about the Reapers. A variety of endings that take into account our choices throughout the series. Like a very good ending, good ending, ok, neutral, bad, very bad.

I have a full revised review in my bsn blog if you are really interested. But the things we want are what were promised by Bioware in previous magazine articles and interviews. We are not asking for something special, Just what we spent $60-$87 for. In my case $87 for the CE on origin.

[Ghost Warrior]

bleachorange wrote...
Are you qualified to determine a person's sanity?[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]

It's just common sense,the endings don't undo all the other great stuff in the series.

[wolfstanus]

bleachorange wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

darkshadow136 wrote...

The endings ruined the entire series of Mass Effect, not just ME3, if you liked it good for you. Many don't feel the way you do.

No,in fact I didn't like any of the endings at all. But a sane person doesn't let 1% ruin other 99%.

Are you qualified to determine a person's sanity?

Hes not... But it does not take a rocket scientist to know all of humanity is stupid.

[Farbautisonn]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

bleachorange wrote...
Are you qualified to determine a person's sanity?[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]

It's just common sense,the endings don't undo all the other great stuff in the series.

-Ahahhaha....!

[Darkeus]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...
So the entire Mass Effect 3 sucked for you? Not just the endings?

-No. There were a few bugless moments that I very... VERY much enjoyed. But then the lack of interaction and the missing logic yanked me right back out. I found ME3 to OK untill the ending. Not great... but ok. 

However the endings retroactively destroyed the franchise for me because I cannot for the life of me see the point in loading up any of the other 12 toons I have on my harddrive. I just dont see the point if I only have the absolute most lazy ending possible availble.

Then I can't say anything other than that I feel sorry for you. I won't enjoy talking to Saren any less because I don't like what comes 80 hours after it.

Well then you have fun there sunshine....

The ending is just as much a part of the story as the rest.  If the ending fails, then there is no resolution.  And no, the ending is not resolute.  It is filled with plot holes and poorly written.

If you liked the ending, what did you actually like about it?  What, with the poor writing, dues ex machina and plot holes, were you able to glean from the end of the game?

Just asking....

[Rhod747]

Actualy, if any of you pay attention to what they say, they are waiting for more people to play the damned game to get MORE opinions on the endings and the game in general.

[Ghost Warrior]

P47 ace wrote...

but the ending is just so bad it overshadows everything that was done right.

And that mentality is the problem. Now somebody is going to throw another end-peak rule link at me.

[cynicalandbored]

Yes please. I am getting really tired with all this and not wanting to see Mass Effect ever again. That really sucks when you go from your most favorite game of all time to your biggest game/movie/book disappointment of al time. Just tell us something. I might as well not care for a DLC in the future if this silence prevails. "Listening to us" is not really that much since it doesn't really mean anything.

[Super.Sid]

Rhod747 wrote...

Actualy, if any of you pay attention to what they say, they are waiting for more people to play the damned game to get MORE opinions on the endings and the game in general.

They are just trying to dodge questions, buy time and hope that it blows over.

[darkshadow136]

Darkeus wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...
So the entire Mass Effect 3 sucked for you? Not just the endings?

-No. There were a few bugless moments that I very... VERY much enjoyed. But then the lack of interaction and the missing logic yanked me right back out. I found ME3 to OK untill the ending. Not great... but ok. 

However the endings retroactively destroyed the franchise for me because I cannot for the life of me see the point in loading up any of the other 12 toons I have on my harddrive. I just dont see the point if I only have the absolute most lazy ending possible availble.

Then I can't say anything other than that I feel sorry for you. I won't enjoy talking to Saren any less because I don't like what comes 80 hours after it.

Well then you have fun there sunshine....

The ending is just as much a part of the story as the rest.  If the ending fails, then there is no resolution.  And no, the ending is not resolute.  It is filled with plot holes and poorly written.

If you liked the ending, what did you actually like about it?  What, with the poor writing, dues ex machina and plot holes, were you able to glean from the end of the game?

Just asking....

He actually said he didn't care for the ending. I know I was confused too when he said that to me.

[Getorex]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

"Probably": Going on empirical evidence, DA2, Deception (TOR for some) and now ME3, that probability seems to be somewhat diminishing. If you didnt like the last three games or works of storytelling... why should you like the next?

So the entire Mass Effect 3 sucked for you? Not just the endings?

Thing is, the game up to the ending was fine.  The ending left such a horrific taste in my mouth (and the mouth of many others) that it ruined the ENTIRE thing.  Not just ME3 (I cannot play it again as is.  Once was MORE than enough) but also retroactively ME1 and ME2 AND gutted any interest I had in the movie (which I now hope gets scuttled).

The drive was great, beautiful scenery and vistas but the headon collision at the end that killed everyone in the car but me kinda spoiled the memory. 

[darkshadow136]

Super.Sid wrote...

Rhod747 wrote...

Actualy, if any of you pay attention to what they say, they are waiting for more people to play the damned game to get MORE opinions on the endings and the game in general.

They are just trying to dodge questions, buy time and hope that it blows over.

Yep they did the same thing with DA2.

[Farbautisonn]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

And that mentality is the problem. Now somebody is going to throw another end-peak rule link at me.

-Peak end, MR "I am a judge of sanity and common sense".

[cynicalandbored]

Rhod747 wrote...

Actualy, if any of you pay attention to what they say, they are waiting for more people to play the damned game to get MORE opinions on the endings and the game in general.

They have 60 thousand plus people that hate the ending and majority of those have voiced their opinion on it. They can't process all the opinions even if they wanted to. I agree with avoiding.

[Ghost Warrior]

Darkeus wrote...

If you liked the ending, what did you actually like about it?  What, with the poor writing, dues ex machina and plot holes, were you able to glean from the end of the game?

Just asking....

Once again,I didn't like it. But I don't tend to focus only on the bad stuff,especially when it's in such minority.

[Darkeus]

darkshadow136 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...
So the entire Mass Effect 3 sucked for you? Not just the endings?

-No. There were a few bugless moments that I very... VERY much enjoyed. But then the lack of interaction and the missing logic yanked me right back out. I found ME3 to OK untill the ending. Not great... but ok. 

However the endings retroactively destroyed the franchise for me because I cannot for the life of me see the point in loading up any of the other 12 toons I have on my harddrive. I just dont see the point if I only have the absolute most lazy ending possible availble.

Then I can't say anything other than that I feel sorry for you. I won't enjoy talking to Saren any less because I don't like what comes 80 hours after it.

Well then you have fun there sunshine....

The ending is just as much a part of the story as the rest.  If the ending fails, then there is no resolution.  And no, the ending is not resolute.  It is filled with plot holes and poorly written.

If you liked the ending, what did you actually like about it?  What, with the poor writing, dues ex machina and plot holes, were you able to glean from the end of the game?

Just asking....

He actually said he didn't care for the ending. I know I was confused too when he said that to me.

Yeah, i must admit to being confused....  If the ending sucked for him, why not want something better and logical?

[Getorex]

Super.Sid wrote...

Rhod747 wrote...

Actualy, if any of you pay attention to what they say, they are waiting for more people to play the damned game to get MORE opinions on the endings and the game in general.

They are just trying to dodge questions, buy time and hope that it blows over.

Statistics can work for you here.  Better than 90% of the early players HATED the ending.  Then, as more played better than 90% of them hated the ending.  Then came general release (Asia for instance) and guess what?  Better than 90% hated it.  So, just go with sampling here and you get...oh, that's simple enough: 9 out of 10 who play the game HATE THE ENDING.  

That's pretty much all you (they) need to know.  This isn't rocket science.

[Bl0dbathNBeyond]

" Throughout the next year, we will support Mass Effect 3 by working on new content. And we’ll keep listening, because your insights and constructive feedback will help determine what that content should be. This is not the last you’ll hear of Commander Shepard. "

Given how...uh, fast and loose certain things in the ending are and how/what Bioware has said (Casey Hudson and Michael Gamble's twitter commentary, for example) I think they have said all a game company will honestly ever say to confirm this. May not happen right away. I have like 90+ hours of play time stretched across three games sitting here that I can replay in the coming months. I'll be ok.

[Ghost Warrior]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

And that mentality is the problem. Now somebody is going to throw another end-peak rule link at me.

-Peak end, MR "I am a judge of sanity and common sense".

You win,you're better at English.