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[Getorex]

darkshadow136 wrote...

Overule wrote...

Can I ask the Retake detractors a serious question? Do you expect Bioware will give you a cookie for your efforts at the end of the ordeal? Perhaps the head of IGN telling you to your face that you're smarter than everyone else for having lower standards? What is it specifically that would make you happy?

A proper set of endings that are not 95% the same, that is well written like the rest of the series, that answers the questions many of us would like to know about the Reapers. A variety of endings that take into account our choices throughout the series. Like a very good ending, good ending, ok, neutral, bad, very bad.

I have a full revised review in my bsn blog if you are really interested. But the things we want are what were promised by Bioware in previous magazine articles and interviews. We are not asking for something special, Just what we spent $60-$87 for. In my case $87 for the CE on origin.

You may speak for me henceforth.

May Marauder Shields protect you! (from a horrible HORRIBLE end).

[Darkeus]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

If you liked the ending, what did you actually like about it?  What, with the poor writing, dues ex machina and plot holes, were you able to glean from the end of the game?

Just asking....

Once again,I didn't like it. But I don't tend to focus only on the bad stuff,especially when it's in such minority.

Fair enough.

But you do not feel like you have a incomplete product with ME3?  I mean, it was buggy in some places (Some people are still not playing because of the face import bug) and then the ending just goes out into left field.  That doesn't make the story anti-climatic for you since you know the story ends, not on a high note or low note, but a plot hole mess of a note?

[Farbautisonn]

Casey could tell me "Water is wet" and id still go out to fetch a glass of water to test it first.

[Ghost Warrior]

Darkeus wrote...

Yeah, i must admit to being confused....  If the ending sucked for him, why not want something better and logical?

What good is it when it's forced by raging fans and not originally put in the game?Should I just forget these endings ever happened? Should I just keep making them give us alternate DLCs until the game is exactly how I imagined it?

[darkshadow136]

[quote]Darkeus wrote...

[quote]darkshadow136 wrote...



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He actually said he didn't care for the ending. I know I was confused too when he said that to me.

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Yeah, i must admit to being confused....  If the ending sucked for him, why not want something better and logical?

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One would think he would want something better. If everyone in the USA had his philosophy during the revolutionary war, we would still be owned by the British.

[zambingo]

BioWare can't tells us what they are working on. It's a no win scenario with fans. Reason being any number of factors could halt production on anything they are working on and if they told us they were working on something then the lack of production on it would be perceived as a broken promise.

[Ghost Warrior]

Darkeus wrote...

But you do not feel like you have a incomplete product with ME3?  I mean, it was buggy in some places (Some people are still not playing because of the face import bug) and then the ending just goes out into left field.  That doesn't make the story anti-climatic for you since you know the story ends, not on a high note or low note, but a plot hole mess of a note?

My game wasn't buggy but you know they'll make patches for that anyway. And I'm sorry,but if the game is good until last 5 minutes,I can't say the entire game sucked. I just can't,it doesn't make sense.

[starscreamerx31]

@ ghost warrior bro it sound like you have a neurological impairment. Please leave or stop responding if u have mothing smart to say. We fans are trying to make a stand/ or point. It sounds like you dont mind the endings and i commend you for it as i wish i could be a drone and not care about lies given to us by our favorite devs from this epic franchise. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course. Seriously though.

[bleachorange]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

bleachorange wrote...
Are you qualified to determine a person's sanity?[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]

It's just common sense,the endings don't undo all the other great stuff in the series.

http://social.biowar...13/blog/211863/ 

[Sebbe1337o]

They should definately say "We are working on ending dlc" or "We won't change the ending". Then finally people can quiet down a bit, haha.

[Ghost Warrior]

darkshadow136 wrote...

One would think he would want something better. If everyone in the USA had his philosophy during the revolutionary war, we would still be owned by the British.

Come on man,that's not a fair comparison. The quality of life was worse because of british control and they fought for their independence. I don't see how it's remotely similar to this issue.

[xsdob]

People are irrational and stupid when angry, they won't shut up even if they said that "our endings suck, the fans were right, we're adopting the indoctrination ending as cannon, and you get an ending where you and your love interest get to spend the rest of your lives together. And the relays no longer get destroyed."

And people will still rage, whine and moan about it. They will call them liars, con-men, a puppet for ea, scum of the earth, Judas, and than that they should have done this in the first place before looping back to calling them liars. It doesn't matter the reason or cause that your whining and moaning about, it's still whining and moaning and taking cheap shoots at everything the devs say and raging that they didn't say exactly what you wanted them to in the exact wording.

They said they are listening, they said they're paying attention to the fans, that is pretty much as good as it gets in the entertainment industry to an outright confession of changing things. But no one wants to see that cause it doesn't match the narrative they've invented of no-one listening to them, it's sad but expected with a movement devoid of leadership or coherent direction.

[darkshadow136]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

darkshadow136 wrote...

One would think he would want something better. If everyone in the USA had his philosophy during the revolutionary war, we would still be owned by the British.

Come on man,that's not a fair comparison. The quality of life was worse because of british control and they fought for their independence. I don't see how it's remotely similar to this issue.

LOL I knew you had to respond to that one.

[Darkeus]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Yeah, i must admit to being confused....  If the ending sucked for him, why not want something better and logical?

What good is it when it's forced by raging fans and not originally put in the game?Should I just forget these endings ever happened? Should I just keep making them give us alternate DLCs until the game is exactly how I imagined it?

As a consumer, and that is what you are, you have the right to ask for the product your were promised.  You were promised an ending that corresponded with your choices, not ignored them.  You were told that the endings would be different, they were not, unless you count different colors as different.

If consumers just sit and take it and do not let any company know that they are displeased, then what good does that do?  The company thinks they are doing something right while fans are pissed and stop buying product.  A company must be told that they screwed up.

No one is trying to force anything.  However, they are fans of a product who do not feel the product fulfilled its goals in an important part of the game.  They have that right.  Too many people just settle and stay quiet.  That is not the right process if you want change.

Maybe we can agree on this or not, but the quality of writing and game style has decreased over the last couple years.  Many of these fans just want to see EA/Bioware get back to what we know they are capable of, not what they are right now.

Also, i guess you have not had your hair disappear or have lost the ability to move for no reason and had to restart.

And I also do not believe Mass Effect 3 sucked, for about a good 90% of it or so.  But you have to admit, this is a really bad way to end the series.....

Modifié par Darkeus, 18 mars 2012 - 06:52 .

[bleachorange]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Casey could tell me "Water is wet" and id still go out to fetch a glass of water to test it first.

Only until they invent dry water to go in the glass with your dry ice.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

If they can save money by this issue dying down.. they will.


Let the bashing continue.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 18 mars 2012 - 06:50 .

[bleachorange]

starscreamerx31 wrote...

@ ghost warrior bro it sound like you have a neurological impairment. Please leave or stop responding if u have mothing smart to say. We fans are trying to make a stand/ or point. It sounds like you dont mind the endings and i commend you for it as i wish i could be a drone and not care about lies given to us by our favorite devs from this epic franchise. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course. Seriously though.

Now you're the psychiatrist? both of you need to put your heads together and you may end up with a scion for your troubles.

Modifié par bleachorange, 18 mars 2012 - 06:51 .

[FERMi27]

I don't think Bioware wants you to "shut up". Keep the feedback coming, guys.

[Farbautisonn]

Ghost Warrior wrote...
What good is it when it's forced by raging fans and not originally put in the game?Should I just forget these endings ever happened? Should I just keep making them give us alternate DLCs until the game is exactly how I imagined it?

-You just cant stop typcasting the people you do not agree with can you? Is your world really that black and white? 

[Midarenkov]

durasteel wrote...

If past is prolog, a few months from now Priestly will be saying "We currently have no plans to develop alternate endings." A week later, BioWare will announce the alternate ending DLC pack, complete with screenshots of completed assets, polished video of the extended scenes, and new voice-over work.

Yes, Chris, I still remember the PC release of Mass Effect. I will always remember it.

Ehehe

[Getorex]

zambingo wrote...

BioWare can't tells us what they are working on. It's a no win scenario with fans. Reason being any number of factors could halt production on anything they are working on and if they told us they were working on something then the lack of production on it would be perceived as a broken promise.

Uhhhhh...they already have a HUGE broken promise front and center.  Mass Effect 3.  Pilling more broken promises on that gaping wound of a broken promise cannot make things worse.

[xsdob]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...
What good is it when it's forced by raging fans and not originally put in the game?Should I just forget these endings ever happened? Should I just keep making them give us alternate DLCs until the game is exactly how I imagined it?

-You just cant stop typcasting the people you do not agree with can you? Is your world really that black and white? 

And you guys typeicasting people who didn't mind the ending as being metally imparied is better? You need to stop the hypocricy of what your saying and stop instigating fights.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Raging fans, raging defenders... the ending is still bad.

And by "bad," I mean full of plot holes and at a quality totally inconsistent with the rest of the game's mission/narrative structure (conflict/resolution/epilogue).

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 18 mars 2012 - 06:57 .

[BatmanPWNS]

Why would they bother. They already made profit. They'll probably wait at least a month before announcing DLC which will, ultimately, get them more profit.