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[bleachorange]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...
Keep paying? They bought the game and got a product with lots of quality content. But it wasn't perfect,so let's rage.
Yes,I said rage again. Oops.
And they can't judge any future content based on this. It's like you didn't like Kasumi DLC and said never to buy another ME2 DLC again. And then comes The Lair Of The Shadow Broker.

-"Lots of quality content" -According to you. They didnt like the overall combined quality now did they? 

Year... you said rage again. Its ok though. Makes it easier for everyone to dismiss your opinions as hyperbole.

And yes they can. They can judge it because it establishes a precedent. And if that precedent is not to their liking then they do not have to pay.

As for your... "example..." or "analogy..." I really dont have a bastard clue what your point is but Im sure you'll work your way around to it eventually.

He's saying Kasumi's dlc was disappointing and LotSB was awesome, or something like that...

Modifié par bleachorange, 18 mars 2012 - 07:19 .

[bleachorange]

zambingo wrote...

The entire Mass Effect 3 game is the series' ending. Our decisions are reflected in numerous ways throughout the story. We meet back up with past friends, we see loved ones again, we see the good and bad of past decisions. People begged for The Scientist, not the Science Experiment and that's what we got. People begged for more Wrexy and we got him. People begged for Paragon and Renegade decisions in past games to be displayed in both positive and negative ways and that's what we got.

Really? I thought this was a stand-alone game as well? If I just purchased ME3, and never played ME1 or 2, I'm afraid I still don't see my decisions mattering at the end.

[Farbautisonn]

zambingo wrote...

Bringing it back to anouncing new DLC, BioWare can't announce anything until they are certain it's coming. Up until then any reassurance or mention of it would only bring more heat on them in any number of ways due to any number of reasons.

BioWare is in a no win situation. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

-Only problem is that the modus operandi of promising something, not delivering it, and then promising to fix it, only to ignore it has become commonplace with bioware.

DA2 had issues, Statemens were released that they listened and that they would do otherwise in the future. As ME3 is the proof of, clearly they didnt. Same "streamlining" same "autodialogue narrative" etc. Deception was so unpopular and flawed that it caused a massive storm, and the same thing happened. And Deception still sells on Amazon as is, even if we got a message a month ago saying that they were "revising it". Since then.. nothing. Not a peep.

Now tell me. If that does not establish a precedent... what the hell does? 

[Kanon777]

its sunday let them rest

[shnellegaming]

I agree but in their defense no way could they have had enough time to make that kind of monumental decision right now.

But I totally agree they need to tell us the moment it either is or is not happening.  Though if it isn't happening then they probably won't say anything which would be bad.

Though if they announce any other DLC besides ending I think we have our answer.  Though Retake Omega DLC is kinda a given.  I would be surprised if they hadn't been working on that since before launch.

[P47 ace]

Once again people I am not saying go mute and stop talking all together

just be more civil. People respond better when you talk to them on a higher level then continually bashing them

take the words of Tali to heart "we're not vorcha"
be constructive not destructive
fight like a Salarian with cunning, inteligents, and honnor

[nupfi]

I highly agree, OP!

[Ghost Warrior]

Farbautisonn wrote...

As for your... "example..." or "analogy..." I really dont have a bastard clue what your point is but Im sure you'll work your way around to it eventually.

Really? Because it can't be more simple than it already is...why am I even wasting my time on you?

The fact is you got too emotional over this and you're RAGING (maybe not you specifically,but a lot of your comrades).
You are right to dislike the endings,but not to demand this ridiculous DLC (and for it to be free).

I sincerely hope you don't get it,because it sends a very wrong message. It's BioWare's game,not yours.

Yes,it's a game of choices,but choices WITHIN BIOWARE'S LIMITS. It's been that way since ME1,it's that way in every game.

Now I'm going out,with more SANE people. Yes,I said that again,because - what's the point of being reasonable with UNREASONABLE people. That's what you are.

You don't get to make demands like that and I believe that BioWare knows that. If they give in,it's because of fear.

And if you ever get to play your alternate endings,know that it's not what BioWare (the creator of the universe you all love so much) intended. It's a forced product of spoiled "fans".

End of line.

Modifié par Ghost Warrior, 18 mars 2012 - 07:32 .

[Phategod1]

It's there franchise how about you just learn to deal with it and get over it.

[bleachorange]

Farbautisonn wrote...
Deception still sells on Amazon as is, even if we got a message a month ago saying that they were "revising it". Since then.. nothing. Not a peep.

I have to say there are still copies of the old printing. They aren't just going to throw them away. And one month is to my thinking rather short notice for fixing inaccuracies, having an editor go over it again, coming up with a new final copy, manufacturing 1,000s of copies and putting them on the market. Perhaps an e-book of it should be up-to-date.

Some things still take time. But an announcement of production on DLC would make me happier, but I won't go away until it's installed on my PC.

[Darkeus]

Ghost, I just don't think you get it my man....

A game may be a company's creation, but it is made for us to buy it.  It is made for the consumer.  So it has to be to the taste of the consumer.  For a majority, it is not.

Modifié par Darkeus, 18 mars 2012 - 07:34 .

[Captian Cornhole]

Logan Cloud wrote...

To BSN: Stop complaining for a little while and Bioware could have time to work, rather than answer stupid questions like: "Y R ALL MINE ENDINS NO MATTER????"

Lol, how mad would you guys be if they were working on a new ending all along, but they couldn't work on it because they had to constantly respond to troll questions like the "Color blind" one?

DAMN STRAIGHT!!! 

@ OP actually it's shut up, not "shut-up" Let me know when you gradumatate kindergarden

[Farbautisonn]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

As for your... "example..." or "analogy..." I really dont have a bastard clue what your point is but Im sure you'll work your way around to it eventually.

Really? Because it can't be more simple than it already is...why am I even wasting my time on you?

The fact is you got too emotional over this and you're RAGING (maybe not you specifically,but a lot of your comrades).
You are right to dislike the endings,but not to demand this ridiculous DLC (and for it to be free).

I sincerely hope you don't get it,because it sends a very wrong message. It's BioWare's game,not yours.

Yes,it's a game of choices,but choices WITHIN BIOWARE'S LIMITS. It's been that way since ME1,it's that way in every game.

Now I'm going out,with more SANE people. Yes,I said that again,because - what's the point of being reasonable with UNREASONABLE people. That's what you are.

You don't get to make demands like that and I believe that BioWare knows that. If they give in,it's because of fear.

And if you ever get to play your alternate endings,know that it's not what BioWare (the creator of the universe you all love so much) intended. It's a forced product of spoiled "fans".

End of line.

-Hahah... Christ on a pogostick a temper tantrum. Wasnt "I"/"we" supposed to be the "entitled children"? Ill give something though. You "roleplay" the part sterlingly.

[kbct]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

The fact is you got too emotional over this and you're RAGING (maybe not you specifically,but a lot of your comrades).

I'm not raging either. In fact, Stanley Woo had a lot of kind words to say about how we were voicing our opinions:

"The community has been articulate, considerate, and for the most part extremely respectful and smart with how it is providing its feedback. And a large portion of those dissatisfied with the ME3 endings are cautioning others to keep the criticism constructive, to be respectful to the developers, and to remain civil in their arguments. I appreciate that a great deal, and I thank you and the rest of our community for that." -Woo

Unfortunately Ghost Warrior, you are raging.

[bleachorange]

Ghost Warrior wrote...
End of line.

I thought it was "End of the line"?

[Farbautisonn]

bleachorange wrote...
I have to say there are still copies of the old printing. They aren't just going to throw them away. And one month is to my thinking rather short notice for fixing inaccuracies, having an editor go over it again, coming up with a new final copy, manufacturing 1,000s of copies and putting them on the market. Perhaps an e-book of it should be up-to-date.

-Im not asking them to have something done by one month. Im asking them to update the clients that "shut up" after they got their "apology". Because for all we know... nothing happend? So... what was the point of the outcry again if Bioware can just bury it on their forums? Because they did. Successfully so.

Some things still take time. But an announcement of production on DLC would make me happier, but I won't go away until it's installed on my PC.

-An announcement of such a kind would make me less.... confrontational... but not happy. I wouldnt go away untill I saw it either though.

[kbct]

Captian Cornhole wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

To BSN: Stop complaining for a little while and Bioware could have time to work, rather than answer stupid questions like: "Y R ALL MINE ENDINS NO MATTER????"

Lol, how mad would you guys be if they were working on a new ending all along, but they couldn't work on it because they had to constantly respond to troll questions like the "Color blind" one?

DAMN STRAIGHT!!! 

@ OP actually it's shut up, not "shut-up" Let me know when you gradumatate kindergarden

Uh oh, OP got pulled over by the grammar police.

[zambingo]

Farbautisonn, that's totally fair. It's subjective, but still fair. I also feel you on the maybe they didn't learn from the DA2 complaints.

bleachorange, if you bought ME3 and never played ME1 or 2 your decisions in ME3 still show up in various ways within the game. People fixate on the fact that BioWare decided certain things must occur in each ending variation and they ignore that their decisions along the way do unlock different options and that those options have the possibility of wholly deciding evolutionary possibilities and Shepard's ultimate fate.

The end isn't satisfying to many and that is totally a valid opinion and emotion to have but it doesn't mean BioWare is our enemy, that they screwed us, lied etc. etc.

[P47 ace]

DAMN STRAIGHT!!! 

@ OP actually it's shut up, not "shut-up" Let me know when you gradumatate kindergarden

[/quote]

look dude, this is how i spell it, i live in kentucky and you can bash me for my no shoe-wearing hillbilly style

it is how i want to spell it and it is none of or concern how i do
i and better at math anyway

2i+2i=5

and for the record i am a senior in High school and have been accepted to Mississippi State Universities Aerospace engineering program

thank you and good day

[bleachorange]

kbct wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

The fact is you got too emotional over this and you're RAGING (maybe not you specifically,but a lot of your comrades).

I'm not raging either. In fact, Stanley Woo had a lot of kind words to say about how we were voicing our opinions:

"The community has been articulate, considerate, and for the most part extremely respectful and smart with how it is providing its feedback. And a large portion of those dissatisfied with the ME3 endings are cautioning others to keep the criticism constructive, to be respectful to the developers, and to remain civil in their arguments. I appreciate that a great deal, and I thank you and the rest of our community for that." -Woo

Unfortunately Ghost Warrior, you are raging.

"...I was there that day... ...it was magnificent... ...Bioware deigned to speak to the lowly masses...":crying:

No, really Stan was really cool about it. He even did this at 4 in the morning EST, which is clearly free time for someone who lives in continental North America.

I do want more concrete answers regarding our issues, however.

[Farbautisonn]

@Zambingo: Well... they might not have lied but they have then pulled a "Peter Molyneux"... and thats if we are somewhat charitable about it.

[darkshadow136]

kbct wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

The fact is you got too emotional over this and you're RAGING (maybe not you specifically,but a lot of your comrades).

I'm not raging either. In fact, Stanley Woo had a lot of kind words to say about how we were voicing our opinions:

"The community has been articulate, considerate, and for the most part extremely respectful and smart with how it is providing its feedback. And a large portion of those dissatisfied with the ME3 endings are cautioning others to keep the criticism constructive, to be respectful to the developers, and to remain civil in their arguments. I appreciate that a great deal, and I thank you and the rest of our community for that." -Woo

Unfortunately Ghost Warrior, you are raging.

Thats why I quit responding to his comments. You can go through the thread and he was the one attacking eveyones comments that did not concur with his, and when no one  gave him the emotional reaction he was looking for, he became en-raged. I also find it suspect when someone has stong stong opinions and has no games registered. Which I commented on earlier but I guess that was not worth him commenting on.

Modifié par darkshadow136, 18 mars 2012 - 07:42 .

[JunMadine]

I would love to here about a new ending. as of now I believe that the current ending was good enough in their minds. For them to make a new ending the would need to start from scratch. Getting voice actors and creating the scene will take time and money. We need to let them know it will be in their best interest to do so. Till they fell there is no other choice or they decide not to care we will hear nothing.

Stand together. Hold the line.

[Getorex]

Logan Cloud wrote...

To BSN: Stop complaining for a little while and Bioware could have time to work, rather than answer stupid questions like: "Y R ALL MINE ENDINS NO MATTER????"

Lol, how mad would you guys be if they were working on a new ending all along, but they couldn't work on it because they had to constantly respond to troll questions like the "Color blind" one?

They aren't that small.  They aren't 3 guys in a basement.  There are people who can yammer at the press (empty nothings) and people who can post to forums and to interview questions, and people who can do their codemonkey jobs and never speak to anyone while drinking red bull and eating cheetos.  They are big enough that they can do many things at the same time without negative impact.