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ev76 wrote...

Well I commend you for your efforts, and the fact that it also gives to charity. I hope that the developers address your grievances and comes out with more content to satisfy them. I'm personally okay with the endings, but I would not turn down more content.


Glad to have you on board. 

Hold the line. 

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aberdash wrote...

Why is anyone still responding the AJRimmsey? He is quite clearly trolling or a fanboy.


He is clearly in the 'anti-Retake' camp, and has been vocal in his sentiments on many of the threads recently. There is no point in debating someone who is so firm in his beliefs, and is driven by aggression. Energy can be better channeled elsewhere.

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ziloe wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

ziloe wrote...

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oh my god the emos are posting songs now

will the angst never end.


Since when is the song angsty? Why don't you have a listen? Just because people enjoyed a series, doesn't make them "emo". Secondly, emo is a style and genre of music. Not about cutting yourself, etc. 


i cant stand self entitled emo music that does nothing but highlight some spoiled brats anger at his mommy cos he cant get his own way.

so yes..emo fits this band well

you didnt think that we who dont care about the ending see you in some sort of heroic light ?
i personally see pee wee herman throwing a hissy fit cos his cornflakes were moist.

this whole thing is just more fuel for internet restrictions,its about time the net was taken away from those too young to see stupidity in thier actions.


You obviously missed the point. The average gamer is now in their 30s. There is no childish entitlement here. These are people who invested money and time into the series, and loved the characters. Only to have that ending just slapped on as though they didn't care. It hurts the consumer base, and from a business perspective, doing that was a bad call. 

Secondly, there is nothing wrong with the song. You obviously missed the point. 


what age the average gamer is doesnt alter anything.

the overall age of this band of emos is 12,thats plain to see from one point alone.

YOU ARE EMO`ING ABOUT A VIDEO GAME ENDING.

those of us in the grown up world see that as just plain sad.
but thats my opinion..you know,the one you swore to uphold in an earlier post :D

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GeneralYin wrote...

aberdash wrote...

Why is anyone still responding the AJRimmsey? He is quite clearly trolling or a fanboy.


He is clearly in the 'anti-Retake' camp, and has been vocal in his sentiments on many of the threads recently. There is no point in debating someone who is so firm in his beliefs, and is driven by aggression. Energy can be better channeled elsewhere.


Yes, that or clearly a troll. I'll go with latter considering the latest response.

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ziloe wrote...

GeneralYin wrote...

aberdash wrote...

Why is anyone still responding the AJRimmsey? He is quite clearly trolling or a fanboy.


He is clearly in the 'anti-Retake' camp, and has been vocal in his sentiments on many of the threads recently. There is no point in debating someone who is so firm in his beliefs, and is driven by aggression. Energy can be better channeled elsewhere.


Yes, that or clearly a troll. I'll go with latter considering the latest response.


yes..we who disagree with you are always trolls as soon as you run out of retoric.

just like free speech and the right to express an opinion is great...as long as its also your opinion.

Modifié par AJRimmsey, 18 mars 2012 - 07:12 .


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ziloe

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AJRimmsey wrote...

ziloe wrote...

GeneralYin wrote...

aberdash wrote...

Why is anyone still responding the AJRimmsey? He is quite clearly trolling or a fanboy.


He is clearly in the 'anti-Retake' camp, and has been vocal in his sentiments on many of the threads recently. There is no point in debating someone who is so firm in his beliefs, and is driven by aggression. Energy can be better channeled elsewhere.


Yes, that or clearly a troll. I'll go with latter considering the latest response.


yes..we who disagree with you are always trolls as soon as you run out of retoric.

just like free speech and the right to express an opinion is great...as long as its also your opinion.


No. I just have nothing further to say to you, as you obviously can't see beyond your opinion and consider the rest whiners.  

Modifié par ziloe, 18 mars 2012 - 07:16 .


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ziloe wrote...

Yes, that or clearly a troll. I'll go with latter considering the latest response.


Whether or not he is a troll, he is still entitled to his opinion no matter how much we disagree with him.

But as exhibited by his use of the "emo music" or other aggressive/simplistic remarks, he is only harming the legitimacy of his own opinion by lowering himself to the level of those he claims to oppose.

Modifié par GeneralYin, 18 mars 2012 - 07:21 .


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ziloe wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

ziloe wrote...

GeneralYin wrote...

aberdash wrote...

Why is anyone still responding the AJRimmsey? He is quite clearly trolling or a fanboy.


He is clearly in the 'anti-Retake' camp, and has been vocal in his sentiments on many of the threads recently. There is no point in debating someone who is so firm in his beliefs, and is driven by aggression. Energy can be better channeled elsewhere.


Yes, that or clearly a troll. I'll go with latter considering the latest response.


yes..we who disagree with you are always trolls as soon as you run out of retoric.

just like free speech and the right to express an opinion is great...as long as its also your opinion.


No. I just have nothing further to say to you, as you obviously can't see beyond your opinion and consider the rest whiners.  


yes that seems to be the course every retake member has.

WHAT DO WE WANT
BETTER ENDING
WHEN DO WE WANT IT
NOW!!!!
WHAT ENDING DO WE WANT
.
.
.
UUMMMMM

errr ??????

GIVE US WHAT WE WANT..NOW !!!!

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GeneralYin wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Yes, that or clearly a troll. I'll go with latter considering the latest response.


Whether or not he is a troll, he is still entitled to his opinion no matter how much we disagree with him.

But as exhibited by his use of the "emo music" or other aggressive remarks, he is only harming the legitimacy of his own opinion by lowering himself to the level of those he claims to oppose.


:D your side is the ending to a video game :D

i dont oppose the people..i oppose the theme.

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AJRimmsey wrote...

ziloe wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

ziloe wrote...

GeneralYin wrote...

aberdash wrote...

Why is anyone still responding the AJRimmsey? He is quite clearly trolling or a fanboy.


He is clearly in the 'anti-Retake' camp, and has been vocal in his sentiments on many of the threads recently. There is no point in debating someone who is so firm in his beliefs, and is driven by aggression. Energy can be better channeled elsewhere.


Yes, that or clearly a troll. I'll go with latter considering the latest response.


yes..we who disagree with you are always trolls as soon as you run out of retoric.

just like free speech and the right to express an opinion is great...as long as its also your opinion.


No. I just have nothing further to say to you, as you obviously can't see beyond your opinion and consider the rest whiners.  


yes that seems to be the course every retake member has.

WHAT DO WE WANT
BETTER ENDING
WHEN DO WE WANT IT
NOW!!!!
WHAT ENDING DO WE WANT
.
.
.
UUMMMMM

errr ??????

GIVE US WHAT WE WANT..NOW !!!!


People have posted numerous ideas. There are almost a dozen polls giving out suggestions of what can be done, on top of cut and pastes that people liked.

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ziloe wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

ziloe wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

ziloe wrote...

GeneralYin wrote...

aberdash wrote...

Why is anyone still responding the AJRimmsey? He is quite clearly trolling or a fanboy.


He is clearly in the 'anti-Retake' camp, and has been vocal in his sentiments on many of the threads recently. There is no point in debating someone who is so firm in his beliefs, and is driven by aggression. Energy can be better channeled elsewhere.


Yes, that or clearly a troll. I'll go with latter considering the latest response.


yes..we who disagree with you are always trolls as soon as you run out of retoric.

just like free speech and the right to express an opinion is great...as long as its also your opinion.


No. I just have nothing further to say to you, as you obviously can't see beyond your opinion and consider the rest whiners.  


yes that seems to be the course every retake member has.

WHAT DO WE WANT
BETTER ENDING
WHEN DO WE WANT IT
NOW!!!!
WHAT ENDING DO WE WANT
.
.
.
UUMMMMM

errr ??????

GIVE US WHAT WE WANT..NOW !!!!


People have posted numerous ideas. There are almost a dozen polls giving out suggestions of what can be done, on top of cut and pastes that people liked.

I haven't seen any concrete suggestions for things people want changed. All I've seen is people saying what they didn't like and that they want vague things like "our choices to affect the ending" or some such. I've talked to some people who just flat out have unreasonable arguments about the ending. It's important to note that not everyone who's in this "change the ending" campaign thingy actually has a valid reason for doing so; some people genuinely are just in it because "I didn't like it was sad".

I don't think there would be anywhere near as many people calling you guys entitled if you actually had some concrete thing you wanted changed, and what you want it changed to.

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Sorry, I just have to put this out here though. Waving around that the avg age for gamers is 30, really doesn't mean anything, aside from the fact that there are people who have been alive for that many years. It is not indicative of maturity. There are many people in this world who will age, but will never grow up and actually mature (that of course applies to people on both sides of this argument).

That being said, at least you guys are going about this in a way that benefits charity. Don't exactly agree with everything said with this 'movement,' and the wording can be unbearably corny at times, but whatever. If this ends up helping Bioware make more quality games in the future, and doesn't harm them in the long term, than I got no problem with you guys continuing this

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yes that seems to be the course every retake member has.

WHAT DO WE WANT
BETTER ENDING
WHEN DO WE WANT IT
NOW!!!!
WHAT ENDING DO WE WANT
.
.
.
UUMMMMM

errr ??????

GIVE US WHAT WE WANT..NOW !!!!


Very obvious troll in my personal opinion

Modifié par AshenSugar, 18 mars 2012 - 07:31 .


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AshenSugar wrote...

yes that seems to be the course every retake member has.

WHAT DO WE WANT
BETTER ENDING
WHEN DO WE WANT IT
NOW!!!!
WHAT ENDING DO WE WANT
.
.
.
UUMMMMM

errr ??????

GIVE US WHAT WE WANT..NOW !!!!


Very obvious troll in my personal opinion


of course thats your opinion.

its easier to post one word than actually explain what you want changed.
that would involve thinking.

bandwagoning at its worst :D

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The Razman wrote...

I haven't seen any concrete suggestions for things people want changed. All I've seen is people saying what they didn't like and that they want vague things like "our choices to affect the ending" or some such. I've talked to some people who just flat out have unreasonable arguments about the ending. It's important to note that not everyone who's in this "change the ending" campaign thingy actually has a valid reason for doing so; some people genuinely are just in it because "I didn't like it was sad".

I don't think there would be anywhere near as many people calling you guys entitled if you actually had some concrete thing you wanted changed, and what you want it changed to.


True since most of the ideas that seem to have a lot of support are scattered across the threads, I'm not surprised that we are being labelled as such. There is talk of putting up a website so that all of our best ideas can be presented to interested parties in a constructive manner. Until then, we'll have to wait out this label of being 'entitled'.

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Good luck with the alt endings , after completing it this evening i now understand all the gripes i've seen across the net.

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Keltic101 wrote...

Good luck with the alt endings , after completing it this evening i now understand all the gripes i've seen across the net.


You're not alone my friend. Join the ranks. Hold the line. 

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AJRimmsey wrote...
yes..we who disagree with you are always trolls as soon as you run out of retoric.


-Oh the irony... it BURNS!!!

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Farbautisonn wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...
yes..we who disagree with you are always trolls as soon as you run out of retoric.


-Oh the irony... it BURNS!!!


I don't know why I bothered with him at all, really.

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gangly369 wrote...

Sorry, I just have to put this out here though. Waving around that the avg age for gamers is 30, really doesn't mean anything, aside from the fact that there are people who have been alive for that many years. It is not indicative of maturity. There are many people in this world who will age, but will never grow up and actually mature (that of course applies to people on both sides of this argument).

That being said, at least you guys are going about this in a way that benefits charity. Don't exactly agree with everything said with this 'movement,' and the wording can be unbearably corny at times, but whatever. If this ends up helping Bioware make more quality games in the future, and doesn't harm them in the long term, than I got no problem with you guys continuing this


That's really all that matters, that Bioware listens to us, but not just that, actually takes our feedback seriously and sees that we'd really like something done about it, and more then just a cheap epilogue like that of Dragon Age. Because really, I'm all fine for paying for it, but if they charge us 10 dollars just for us to see some words, that's going to upset a lot more people.

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I personally don't understand what everyone is so upset about. I personally loved the ending of ME3, and the series will probably be remembered as the best video game series of my life! After I finished it I went onto YouTube to see the other endings, and I still don't get what the fuss is all about. Sure, there were some similarities, but all the endings had their own touch.

Also, like someone said before me, I have yet to see any suggested improvements. If someone posted a link to these, I'd gladly read them!

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ziloe wrote...

I don't know why I bothered with him at all, really.


-Great entertainment value. Invoulentarily ofcourse, but still. :)

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Gogo1 wrote...

I personally don't understand what everyone is so upset about. I personally loved the ending of ME3, and the series will probably be remembered as the best video game series of my life! After I finished it I went onto YouTube to see the other endings, and I still don't get what the fuss is all about. Sure, there were some similarities, but all the endings had their own touch.

Also, like someone said before me, I have yet to see any suggested improvements. If someone posted a link to these, I'd gladly read them!


'Some similarities' is putting it inconceivably mildly. The only real difference is the colour.

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Theodoro wrote...

Gogo1 wrote...

I personally don't understand what everyone is so upset about. I personally loved the ending of ME3, and the series will probably be remembered as the best video game series of my life! After I finished it I went onto YouTube to see the other endings, and I still don't get what the fuss is all about. Sure, there were some similarities, but all the endings had their own touch.

Also, like someone said before me, I have yet to see any suggested improvements. If someone posted a link to these, I'd gladly read them!


'Some similarities' is putting it inconceivably mildly. The only real difference is the colour.


Well, yes, but what more could they have done? Pardon me for not being the most creative of men, but I honestly can't see what they could have added to each individual choice that you could make.

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Gogo1 wrote...

Theodoro wrote...

Gogo1 wrote...

I personally don't understand what everyone is so upset about. I personally loved the ending of ME3, and the series will probably be remembered as the best video game series of my life! After I finished it I went onto YouTube to see the other endings, and I still don't get what the fuss is all about. Sure, there were some similarities, but all the endings had their own touch.

Also, like someone said before me, I have yet to see any suggested improvements. If someone posted a link to these, I'd gladly read them!


'Some similarities' is putting it inconceivably mildly. The only real difference is the colour.


Well, yes, but what more could they have done? Pardon me for not being the most creative of men, but I honestly can't see what they could have added to each individual choice that you could make.


They surely wouldn't have been able to make 16 entirely different endings as they promised, granted, but they could have made at least one Paragon and one Renegade ending with slight differences (which could be determined by the War Asset score, player's love interest, whether they destroyed or kept the Collector Base, etc.)

However, the one thing I would have wanted the most is at least one ending that had some sense in it. Sadly, we don't even have one.