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[Heimdall]

ziloe wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

The journey doesn't matter because everything we fought for is destroyed in the final scenes. And the indoctrination theory doesn't work, because you get the destroy ending even on the lowest military rating. 

100% false.  You must be one of those people that think all the relays blew up all the systems.  Please go watch the endings again.  You'll find that, though the relays were destroyed, the "Explosions" are the same color as the energy wave from the Crucible.  Rather than a violent torrent of energy, the energy of the relays was emitted in the same form as that energy wave, which the cinematics of earth show is largely harmless.

That's right folks, everything you fought for is still there.

[ziloe]

Tazzmission wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

i agree 1000%

i think people are just afraid of something new wich is normal but to be like this on both sides is just crazy

i admit i was totally against the multiplayer but i have to say i am having alot of fun with it

No one is afraid of anything. The people upset are people who played through 1 and 2 a number of times, thinking that the outcome would be different for each time they played 3 with those individual saves. 

Instead, it all culminates into the same 3 choices with barely any differences in outcomes if at all. That isn't fear. That's people being upset for time and money wasted in an effort to see things from different perspectives.

see i think it isnt just the 3 choices though

i think its more about what happens to joker and crew really because i even question that and im the one who liked the endings

i think what bioware is doing is they left it as a cliff hanger and through dlc you can continue it somehow

alot of people said they wanted closure so maybe thats why alot of people just hated it :shrugs:




another thing is i think everyone ( including myself) expected the same type  of deal from the last 2 games you know what i mean?


heck a poster in the spoiler forums had an awsome idea like the ending shouldnt have been a choice at all but a automatic one base don your decisions from all 3 games i forgot who it was who said it but yeah i like that idea.


just because i found the current endings ok for myself dosent mean im 100% against changing them

Yes, but no matter what, Joker and the crew are still screwed. Not to mention, the last DLC of ME2 explains that the Mass Relays when destroyed, can blow up an entire system. That means that every single ending you pick, kills everyone. They basically sent entire civilizations into hell. The Sol system cannot handle all those people. Eventually fighting will break out and people will starve to death. There is nothing happy about it. 

[Erode_The_Soul]

Eterna5 wrote...

Useless cause that will yield useless results.

Except for, you know, the $65,000+ donated to charity. Yeah, other than that, completely useless. 

[ziloe]

Lord Aesir wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

The journey doesn't matter because everything we fought for is destroyed in the final scenes. And the indoctrination theory doesn't work, because you get the destroy ending even on the lowest military rating. 

100% false.  You must be one of those people that think all the relays blew up all the systems.  Please go watch the endings again.  You'll find that, though the relays were destroyed, the "Explosions" are the same color as the energy wave from the Crucible.  Rather than a violent torrent of energy, the energy of the relays was emitted in the same form as that energy wave, which the cinematics of earth show is largely harmless.

That's right folks, everything you fought for is still there.

And yet. refer to my post above.

Modifié par ziloe, 19 mars 2012 - 02:42 .

[Crusina]

No.

Modifié par Crusina, 19 mars 2012 - 02:42 .

[Shinobu]

Shinobu wrote...

Truce?

AJRimmsey wrote...


was never a war....you know i`m a rib poker

Actually, no, I thought you were a troll. It's nice to be wrong.

AJRimmsey wrote...
when i get serious i tend to type pages on the logistics of developing a game.
as thats my forte..or was

again..not against the group..after all if you succeed i win,...more mass effect

yum yum


ps..
as tazz says above,i also would have liked a different ending,in fact the hints are there that its not over

Here's hoping! *brofist*

Modifié par Shinobu, 19 mars 2012 - 02:43 .

[AxisEvolve]

Tazzmission wrote...
if anything im probably the most civil one on this board

Sorry, but no.

[ziloe]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Crusina wrote...

No, and go screw yourself.

Who are you talking to? Are you aware you are in violation of forum rules?
Whatever your opinion there is a more intelligent and civil way to voice it you know...

Indeed. 

[Tazzmission]

ziloe wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

i agree 1000%

i think people are just afraid of something new wich is normal but to be like this on both sides is just crazy

i admit i was totally against the multiplayer but i have to say i am having alot of fun with it

No one is afraid of anything. The people upset are people who played through 1 and 2 a number of times, thinking that the outcome would be different for each time they played 3 with those individual saves. 

Instead, it all culminates into the same 3 choices with barely any differences in outcomes if at all. That isn't fear. That's people being upset for time and money wasted in an effort to see things from different perspectives.

see i think it isnt just the 3 choices though

i think its more about what happens to joker and crew really because i even question that and im the one who liked the endings

i think what bioware is doing is they left it as a cliff hanger and through dlc you can continue it somehow

alot of people said they wanted closure so maybe thats why alot of people just hated it :shrugs:




another thing is i think everyone ( including myself) expected the same type  of deal from the last 2 games you know what i mean?


heck a poster in the spoiler forums had an awsome idea like the ending shouldnt have been a choice at all but a automatic one base don your decisions from all 3 games i forgot who it was who said it but yeah i like that idea.


just because i found the current endings ok for myself dosent mean im 100% against changing them

Yes, but no matter what, Joker and the crew are still screwed. Not to mention, the last DLC of ME2 explains that the Mass Relays when destroyed, can blow up an entire system. That means that every single ending you pick, kills everyone. They basically sent entire civilizations into hell. The Sol system cannot handle all those people. Eventually fighting will break out and people will starve to death. There is nothing happy about it. 

heres a thought what if the choices the catalyst gives you also somehow prevents the destructure of those civilizations seeing as the crusible controlls all the energy from the relays?


i mean think about it all we did in arrival was shoot a asteroid at a relay 


another theory i have is what are the chances shepard controlls all forms of tech if you choose the controll ending relays included?

Modifié par Tazzmission, 19 mars 2012 - 02:47 .

[AJRimmsey]

Shinobu wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

Truce?

AJRimmsey wrote...


was never a war....you know i`m a rib poker

Actually, no, I thought you were a troll. It's nice to be wrong.

AJRimmsey wrote...
when i get serious i tend to type pages on the logistics of developing a game.
as thats my forte..or was

again..not against the group..after all if you succeed i win,...more mass effect

yum yum


ps..
as tazz says above,i also would have liked a different ending,in fact the hints are there that its not over

Here's hoping! *brofist*

What i am hoping is to get my sticky fingers into the games structure via an SDK
lots of my work ended up in some games.

heres an old folder i had on renderosity,each one a fully interactable 3d setup

http://www.renderosi...e=Max-UK&page=1

124 tb`s of files at home awaiting a game with a sci fi theme.

Modifié par AJRimmsey, 19 mars 2012 - 02:50 .

[ziloe]

AxisEvolve wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
if anything im probably the most civil one on this board

Sorry, but no.

Lol, and on a side note, I like your display pic. Despite him being day one DLC, I did like his character. 

[Heimdall]

Shinobu wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

I'm glad you liked the endings.

I think marketing propagated the expectations, which is why some more outraged fans have resorted to calling them "lies." I think for the first 97% of the game they hold true, but the last 3% they don't. I don't believe they were lies, because although they are not true, I don't believe it was Casey Hudson's conscious decision to mislead the fans.

Maybe a different way to put it is that the endings destroyed any desire I have to play any of the games again when I know what awaits is a terrible disappointment. Yes, I enjoyed the games at the time, but I can't enjoy them again. That makes me sad.

Thing is, I don't think there was any falsehood, not even that 3%.  I think that when they suggested that all your decisions would factor into the ending, they were talking about war assets, and they were entirely truthful, it just wasn't as grandiose as fans had built up their hopes for, which I don't fault Bioware for at all even though I think they have an aweful PR department.

It helps that I like them leaving the post-ME3 galaxy to my imagination, I suppose.

[ziloe]

Tazzmission wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

i agree 1000%

i think people are just afraid of something new wich is normal but to be like this on both sides is just crazy

i admit i was totally against the multiplayer but i have to say i am having alot of fun with it

No one is afraid of anything. The people upset are people who played through 1 and 2 a number of times, thinking that the outcome would be different for each time they played 3 with those individual saves. 

Instead, it all culminates into the same 3 choices with barely any differences in outcomes if at all. That isn't fear. That's people being upset for time and money wasted in an effort to see things from different perspectives.

see i think it isnt just the 3 choices though

i think its more about what happens to joker and crew really because i even question that and im the one who liked the endings

i think what bioware is doing is they left it as a cliff hanger and through dlc you can continue it somehow

alot of people said they wanted closure so maybe thats why alot of people just hated it :shrugs:




another thing is i think everyone ( including myself) expected the same type  of deal from the last 2 games you know what i mean?


heck a poster in the spoiler forums had an awsome idea like the ending shouldnt have been a choice at all but a automatic one base don your decisions from all 3 games i forgot who it was who said it but yeah i like that idea.


just because i found the current endings ok for myself dosent mean im 100% against changing them

Yes, but no matter what, Joker and the crew are still screwed. Not to mention, the last DLC of ME2 explains that the Mass Relays when destroyed, can blow up an entire system. That means that every single ending you pick, kills everyone. They basically sent entire civilizations into hell. The Sol system cannot handle all those people. Eventually fighting will break out and people will starve to death. There is nothing happy about it. 

heres a thought what if the choices the catalyst gives you also somehow prevents the destructure of those civilizations seeing as the crusible controlls all the energy from the relays?


i mean think about it all we did in arrival was shoot a asteroid at a relay 


another theory i have is what are the chances shepard controlls all forms of tech if you choose the controll ending relays included?

Even choosing control destroys the relays. Like, I'd get it if they didn't do that, but they literally made each ending the same but a different colour. These are the exact same choices you get at the end of Deus Ex. 

And really, asteroid or not, we are talking a destruction of an entire civilization built on being able to travel all over and keep in contact for resources, etc. Now, they are essentially screwed. And various species will die out, because they cannot go back home. 

Even Tali is stuck, and just after such a happy moment on her homeworld. 

[AJRimmsey]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

I'm glad you liked the endings.

I think marketing propagated the expectations, which is why some more outraged fans have resorted to calling them "lies." I think for the first 97% of the game they hold true, but the last 3% they don't. I don't believe they were lies, because although they are not true, I don't believe it was Casey Hudson's conscious decision to mislead the fans.

Maybe a different way to put it is that the endings destroyed any desire I have to play any of the games again when I know what awaits is a terrible disappointment. Yes, I enjoyed the games at the time, but I can't enjoy them again. That makes me sad.

Thing is, I don't think there was any falsehood, not even that 3%.  I think that when they suggested that all your decisions would factor into the ending, they were talking about war assets, and they were entirely truthful, it just wasn't as grandiose as fans had built up their hopes for, which I don't fault Bioware for at all even though I think they have an aweful PR department.

It helps that I like them leaving the post-ME3 galaxy to my imagination, I suppose.

you have to admit though that they did hype the living shyte out of features that didnt end up being worthy of the hype.

didnt alter the game for me personally,but those who followed the lore were bound to be pithed

[Shinobu]

Tazzmission wrote...

like i said i wasnt trying to be a troll im just saying this guy was giving you a bad image and i thought it shouldve been brought to your attention.

im mad because basicly all i ever see on this board is fighting from both sides

and i admit i do take part in a few of them but imofficially burnt out mentally

what really bugs me is something so small like a 5 minute ending can make a gaming community basicly turn into a riot on whos right whos wrong conspiracy theory or no conspiracy theory

Ok, thanks for the heads up. I'm gonna avoid interacting with that guy. But again, don't taint everyone who doesn't like the endings with that brush just because one guy is a royal pain. Some of us are nice. Really.

We all choose whether we're going to fight or not. I know some of those trolls make me want to strangle them, too, but if you get in the mud with them you just get covered in their filth. Ignore them, report them, tell them to be civil. You just turn out looking better and I've actually had some really good conversations with posters who started out by attacking me personally but turned out to be reasonable once I didn't hit back.

I'm sorry you're burnt out. Maybe take a little break from the forums? I went outside today for a couple of hours and it made me feel a lot better.

Yeah, the ending has pretty much sucked the joy out of this place for various reasons (whether one likes it or not). It is a shame because we should be celebrating the epic end of an incredible experience, not ripping each others' throats out. I wish I could celebrate, but I can't.

Still holding the line.

[ziloe]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

I'm glad you liked the endings.

I think marketing propagated the expectations, which is why some more outraged fans have resorted to calling them "lies." I think for the first 97% of the game they hold true, but the last 3% they don't. I don't believe they were lies, because although they are not true, I don't believe it was Casey Hudson's conscious decision to mislead the fans.

Maybe a different way to put it is that the endings destroyed any desire I have to play any of the games again when I know what awaits is a terrible disappointment. Yes, I enjoyed the games at the time, but I can't enjoy them again. That makes me sad.

Thing is, I don't think there was any falsehood, not even that 3%.  I think that when they suggested that all your decisions would factor into the ending, they were talking about war assets, and they were entirely truthful, it just wasn't as grandiose as fans had built up their hopes for, which I don't fault Bioware for at all even though I think they have an aweful PR department.

It helps that I like them leaving the post-ME3 galaxy to my imagination, I suppose.

Maybe so, but you have to consider that the PR department promised us closure. Instead, they left us with more questions. And that's just awful in its own right. 

[Tazzmission]

ziloe wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

i agree 1000%

i think people are just afraid of something new wich is normal but to be like this on both sides is just crazy

i admit i was totally against the multiplayer but i have to say i am having alot of fun with it

No one is afraid of anything. The people upset are people who played through 1 and 2 a number of times, thinking that the outcome would be different for each time they played 3 with those individual saves. 

Instead, it all culminates into the same 3 choices with barely any differences in outcomes if at all. That isn't fear. That's people being upset for time and money wasted in an effort to see things from different perspectives.

see i think it isnt just the 3 choices though

i think its more about what happens to joker and crew really because i even question that and im the one who liked the endings

i think what bioware is doing is they left it as a cliff hanger and through dlc you can continue it somehow

alot of people said they wanted closure so maybe thats why alot of people just hated it :shrugs:




another thing is i think everyone ( including myself) expected the same type  of deal from the last 2 games you know what i mean?


heck a poster in the spoiler forums had an awsome idea like the ending shouldnt have been a choice at all but a automatic one base don your decisions from all 3 games i forgot who it was who said it but yeah i like that idea.


just because i found the current endings ok for myself dosent mean im 100% against changing them

Yes, but no matter what, Joker and the crew are still screwed. Not to mention, the last DLC of ME2 explains that the Mass Relays when destroyed, can blow up an entire system. That means that every single ending you pick, kills everyone. They basically sent entire civilizations into hell. The Sol system cannot handle all those people. Eventually fighting will break out and people will starve to death. There is nothing happy about it. 

heres a thought what if the choices the catalyst gives you also somehow prevents the destructure of those civilizations seeing as the crusible controlls all the energy from the relays?


i mean think about it all we did in arrival was shoot a asteroid at a relay 


another theory i have is what are the chances shepard controlls all forms of tech if you choose the controll ending relays included?

Even choosing control destroys the relays. Like, I'd get it if they didn't do that, but they literally made each ending the same but a different colour. These are the exact same choices you get at the end of Deus Ex. 

And really, asteroid or not, we are talking a destruction of an entire civilization built on being able to travel all over and keep in contact for resources, etc. Now, they are essentially screwed. And various species will die out, because they cannot go back home. 

Even Tali is stuck, and just after such a happy moment on her homeworld. 

heres where im confused regarding tali. i romanced her in my last playthrough and when you do the love scene she says my body is adapted to you so no more getting sick.

could that possibly mean she wont get sick around humans as a species now do to being adapted?

also i really do believe the fleets you have to help you with earth will somehow live there

its crazy i know but its only a thought

[ziloe]

Tazzmission wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

i agree 1000%

i think people are just afraid of something new wich is normal but to be like this on both sides is just crazy

i admit i was totally against the multiplayer but i have to say i am having alot of fun with it

No one is afraid of anything. The people upset are people who played through 1 and 2 a number of times, thinking that the outcome would be different for each time they played 3 with those individual saves. 

Instead, it all culminates into the same 3 choices with barely any differences in outcomes if at all. That isn't fear. That's people being upset for time and money wasted in an effort to see things from different perspectives.

see i think it isnt just the 3 choices though

i think its more about what happens to joker and crew really because i even question that and im the one who liked the endings

i think what bioware is doing is they left it as a cliff hanger and through dlc you can continue it somehow

alot of people said they wanted closure so maybe thats why alot of people just hated it :shrugs:




another thing is i think everyone ( including myself) expected the same type  of deal from the last 2 games you know what i mean?


heck a poster in the spoiler forums had an awsome idea like the ending shouldnt have been a choice at all but a automatic one base don your decisions from all 3 games i forgot who it was who said it but yeah i like that idea.


just because i found the current endings ok for myself dosent mean im 100% against changing them

Yes, but no matter what, Joker and the crew are still screwed. Not to mention, the last DLC of ME2 explains that the Mass Relays when destroyed, can blow up an entire system. That means that every single ending you pick, kills everyone. They basically sent entire civilizations into hell. The Sol system cannot handle all those people. Eventually fighting will break out and people will starve to death. There is nothing happy about it. 

heres a thought what if the choices the catalyst gives you also somehow prevents the destructure of those civilizations seeing as the crusible controlls all the energy from the relays?


i mean think about it all we did in arrival was shoot a asteroid at a relay 


another theory i have is what are the chances shepard controlls all forms of tech if you choose the controll ending relays included?

Even choosing control destroys the relays. Like, I'd get it if they didn't do that, but they literally made each ending the same but a different colour. These are the exact same choices you get at the end of Deus Ex. 

And really, asteroid or not, we are talking a destruction of an entire civilization built on being able to travel all over and keep in contact for resources, etc. Now, they are essentially screwed. And various species will die out, because they cannot go back home. 

Even Tali is stuck, and just after such a happy moment on her homeworld. 

heres where im confused regarding tali. i romanced her in my last playthrough and when you do the love scene she says my body is adapted to you so no more getting sick.

could that possibly mean she wont get sick around humans as a species now do to being adapted?

also i really do believe the fleets you have to help you with earth will somehow live there

its crazy i know but its only a thought

I romanced Tali too, but I don't think it will happen that fast.

On top of that, earth in comparison is still a small planet. We can't afford all the resources necessary to help an entirely different set of species and as far as I'm aware most of our planets are still barren which means that the rest of the races would still die off. 

Modifié par ziloe, 19 mars 2012 - 02:59 .

[Shinobu]

Lord Aesir wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

The journey doesn't matter because SPOILER.

100% false.  You must be one of those people that think SPOILER

This is a no spoilers forum.

Actually, I'm not sure what is there and what isn't. Those things were large enough to be seen from outside the galaxy. That cannot be good. Also, if they were harmless, why run? Also, what are the implications of having all those people there with no way out? I think the implications are... unpleasant.

[ziloe]

Shinobu wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

The journey doesn't matter because SPOILER.

100% false.  You must be one of those people that think SPOILER

This is a no spoilers forum.

Actually, I'm not sure what is there and what isn't. Those things were large enough to be seen from outside the galaxy. That cannot be good. Also, if they were harmless, why run? Also, what are the implications of having all those people there with no way out? I think the implications are... unpleasant.

Indeed.

[AJRimmsey]

Tazzmission wrote...


heres where im confused regarding tali. i romanced her in my last playthrough and when you do the love scene she says my body is adapted to you so no more getting sick.

could that possibly mean she wont get sick around humans as a species now do to being adapted?

also i really do believe the fleets you have to help you with earth will somehow live there

its crazy i know but its only a thought

*rubs crystal balls*

ME 4 - the journey home
ME 4 - the search for shephard

there are many subtle hints at it

[ziloe]

AJRimmsey wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...


heres where im confused regarding tali. i romanced her in my last playthrough and when you do the love scene she says my body is adapted to you so no more getting sick.

could that possibly mean she wont get sick around humans as a species now do to being adapted?

also i really do believe the fleets you have to help you with earth will somehow live there

its crazy i know but its only a thought

*rubs crystal balls*

ME 4 - the journey home
ME 4 - the search for shephard

there are many subtle hints at it

No. See, it would be easy to believe that if they didn't specifically state that this was the end of Shepard's story. It was supposed to be a trilogy. Anything else Mass Effect was going to relate to other stories. 

[Shinobu]

Tazzmission wrote...

see i think it isnt just the choices though

i think its more about what happens to SPOILER really because i even question that and im the one who liked the endings

i think what bioware is doing is they left it as a cliff hanger and through dlc you can continue it somehow

alot of people said they wanted closure so maybe thats why alot of people just hated it :shrugs:

Yes, I didn't like this part at all. It made no sense to me.

Tazzmission wrote...
another thing is i think everyone ( including myself) expected the same type  of deal from the last 2 games you know what i mean?


heck a poster in the spoiler forums had an awsome idea like the ending shouldnt have been a choice at all but a automatic one base don your decisions from all 3 games i forgot who it was who said it but yeah i like that idea.


just because i found the current endings ok for myself dosent mean im 100% against changing them

Thanks! We'll make you a convert yet! Yeah, that chart is pretty cool, isn't it?

Modifié par Shinobu, 19 mars 2012 - 03:08 .