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[Dougy Fresh]

This whole ending thing is.like beating a dead horse.

[AJRimmsey]

ziloe wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...


heres where im confused regarding tali. i romanced her in my last playthrough and when you do the love scene she says my body is adapted to you so no more getting sick.

could that possibly mean she wont get sick around humans as a species now do to being adapted?

also i really do believe the fleets you have to help you with earth will somehow live there

its crazy i know but its only a thought

*rubs crystal balls*

ME 4 - the journey home
ME 4 - the search for shephard

there are many subtle hints at it

No. See, it would be easy to believe that if they didn't specifically state that this was the end of Shepard's story. It was supposed to be a trilogy. Anything else Mass Effect was going to relate to other stories. 

something like taking on a member of the crews persona,playing as ash etc

i wish someone knew one of the bean counters,to see the profit margin.
you dont just dump a fanbase this big.

[ziloe]

Refer to this video, and just in the beginning you can see all the promises made for our conclusion:

[AxisEvolve]

Dougy Fresh wrote...

This whole ending thing is.like beating a dead horse.

If you consider Mass Effect to be the horse. 

[Shinobu]

AJRimmsey wrote...

What i am hoping is to get my sticky fingers into the games structure via an SDK
lots of my work ended up in some games.

heres an old folder i had on renderosity,each one a fully interactable 3d setup

http://www.renderosi...e=Max-UK&page=1

124 tb`s of files at home awaiting a game with a sci fi theme.

That is seriously cool. I like the Mothership best, I think.

[NewUszi]

Lord Aesir wrote...
Thing is, I don't think there was any falsehood, not even that 3%.

http://i42.tinypic.com/s3lhqq.jpg

Modifié par NewUszi, 19 mars 2012 - 03:14 .

[Heimdall]

ziloe wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

The journey doesn't matter because everything we fought for is destroyed in the final scenes. And the indoctrination theory doesn't work, because you get the destroy ending even on the lowest military rating. 

100% false.  You must be one of those people that think all the relays blew up all the systems.  Please go watch the endings again.  You'll find that, though the relays were destroyed, the "Explosions" are the same color as the energy wave from the Crucible.  Rather than a violent torrent of energy, the energy of the relays was emitted in the same form as that energy wave, which the cinematics of earth show is largely harmless.

That's right folks, everything you fought for is still there.

And yet. refer to my post above.

I'll get it...

Yes, but no matter what, Joker and the crew are still screwed. Not to
mention, the last DLC of ME2 explains that the Mass Relays when
destroyed, can blow up an entire system. That means that every single
ending you pick, kills everyone. They basically sent entire
civilizations into hell. The Sol system cannot handle all those people.
Eventually fighting will break out and people will starve to death.
There is nothing happy about it.

A) Only if you assume that the planet is uninhabited, that they won't be rescued or that they will be unable to survive.   I can think of less pretty places to be stuck...

I've already explained that this is clearly not what happened in any of the endings.  They're all still very much alive.

C) Sol can handle all those people, all those ships have supplies let alone the supply ships that must have accompannied such a large fleet.  With so many ships lost, those supply ships, which would have been safely in the rear of the formation, are probably carrying excess.  Not to mention they have an entire solar system to mine for resources to prepare for the long arduous return journey.  They'll be fine.

D)  Yes, because there's nothing happy about the end of the threat of genocide via omnicidal super dreadnoughts <_<

Modifié par Lord Aesir, 19 mars 2012 - 03:15 .

[Tazzmission]

Shinobu wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

see i think it isnt just the choices though

i think its more about what happens to SPOILER really because i even question that and im the one who liked the endings

i think what bioware is doing is they left it as a cliff hanger and through dlc you can continue it somehow

alot of people said they wanted closure so maybe thats why alot of people just hated it :shrugs:

Yes, I didn't like this part at all. It made no sense to me.

Tazzmission wrote...
another thing is i think everyone ( including myself) expected the same type  of deal from the last 2 games you know what i mean?


heck a poster in the spoiler forums had an awsome idea like the ending shouldnt have been a choice at all but a automatic one base don your decisions from all 3 games i forgot who it was who said it but yeah i like that idea.


just because i found the current endings ok for myself dosent mean im 100% against changing them

Thanks! We'll make you a convert yet! Yeah, that chart is pretty cool, isn't it?

im all for chairty but i just hope it dosent end up being scammed

[Shinobu]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

I'm glad you liked the endings.

I think marketing propagated the expectations, which is why some more outraged fans have resorted to calling them "lies." I think for the first 97% of the game they hold true, but the last 3% they don't. I don't believe they were lies, because although they are not true, I don't believe it was Casey Hudson's conscious decision to mislead the fans.

Maybe a different way to put it is that the endings destroyed any desire I have to play any of the games again when I know what awaits is a terrible disappointment. Yes, I enjoyed the games at the time, but I can't enjoy them again. That makes me sad.

Thing is, I don't think there was any falsehood, not even that 3%.  I think that when they suggested that all your decisions would factor into the ending, they were talking about war assets, and they were entirely truthful, it just wasn't as grandiose as fans had built up their hopes for, which I don't fault Bioware for at all even though I think they have an aweful PR department.

It helps that I like them leaving the post-ME3 galaxy to my imagination, I suppose.

Yes, I don't think it was intentional. But after having everything riding on Shep's decisions in ME2 and for 97% of ME3, it was pretty tough to take the last 3%.

I didn't really like having new plot threads that were unfinished introduced in the last few minutes, either.

[ziloe]

NewUszi wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...
Thing is, I don't think there was any falsehood, not even that 3%.

http://i42.tinypic.com/s3lhqq.jpg

LOLOLOL

[Shinobu]

AJRimmsey wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...


heres where im confused regarding tali. i romanced her in my last playthrough and when you do the love scene she says my body is adapted to you so no more getting sick.

could that possibly mean she wont get sick around humans as a species now do to being adapted?

also i really do believe the fleets you have to help you with earth will somehow live there

its crazy i know but its only a thought

*rubs crystal balls*

ME 4 - the journey home
ME 4 - the search for shephard

there are many subtle hints at it

Oh dear, I hope not. Not that I don't love Shep, but again, they said this is the end of Shep's story. After all the other statements going back on that one too wouldn't go down well at all.

I do think EA is somehow making Bioware keep this franchise alive instead of wrapping it up. Maybe they're already developing ME4 with dystopian mixed species stuck together on one planet vibe, so the color show HAS to be canon no matter what.

[Heimdall]

Shinobu wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

The journey doesn't matter because SPOILER.

100% false.  You must be one of those people that think SPOILER

This is a no spoilers forum.

Actually, I'm not sure what is there and what isn't. Those things were large enough to be seen from outside the galaxy. That cannot be good. Also, if they were harmless, why run? Also, what are the implications of having all those people there with no way out? I think the implications are... unpleasant.

The same energy wave hits earth, we know what happens.  Unless you pick the destroy ending, it's largely fine.  They run because there's a big wave of energy coming at them and they have no idea what it'll do, even if it turns out to be harmless.  They do have a way out.  The journey will take months to years and they will need to modify their ships to hold more fuel and equip themselves to harvest more fuel along the way, but normal FTL travel makes a return journey home doable.  Difficult, but doable.

[_symphony]

Dougy Fresh wrote...

This whole ending thing is.like beating a dead horse.

For all I care, we shouldn't stop beating it until is just dust.

[ziloe]

Lord Aesir wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

The journey doesn't matter because everything we fought for is destroyed in the final scenes. And the indoctrination theory doesn't work, because you get the destroy ending even on the lowest military rating. 

100% false.  You must be one of those people that think all the relays blew up all the systems.  Please go watch the endings again.  You'll find that, though the relays were destroyed, the "Explosions" are the same color as the energy wave from the Crucible.  Rather than a violent torrent of energy, the energy of the relays was emitted in the same form as that energy wave, which the cinematics of earth show is largely harmless.

That's right folks, everything you fought for is still there.

And yet. refer to my post above.

I'll get it...

Yes, but no matter what, Joker and the crew are still screwed. Not to
mention, the last DLC of ME2 explains that the Mass Relays when
destroyed, can blow up an entire system. That means that every single
ending you pick, kills everyone. They basically sent entire
civilizations into hell. The Sol system cannot handle all those people.
Eventually fighting will break out and people will starve to death.
There is nothing happy about it.

A) Only if you assume that the planet is uninhabited, that they won't be rescued or that they will be unable to survive.   I can think of less pretty places to be stuck...

I've already explained that this is clearly not what happened in any of the endings.  They're all still very much alive.

C) Sol can handle all those people, all those ships have supplies let alone the supply ships that must have accompannied such a large fleet.  With so many ships lost, those supply ships, which would have been safely in the rear of the formation, are probably carrying excess.  Not to mention they have an entire solar system to mine for resources to prepare for the long arduous return journey.  They'll be fine.

D)  Yes, because there's nothing happy about the end of the threat of genocide via omnicidal super dreadnoughts <_<

A: Depending on where they are lost, they could be dead by the time a team arrives to rescue them. With the relays gone, it will now take YEARS to get anywhere. 

B: That's you assuming what the lore states as otherwise. When a relay is destroyed through fancy colours or otherwise, the destruction is immense and cataclysmic. This is the lore. 

C: Yes, but even supplies can only last so long. They don't bring that much due to the speed of the relays, but with the relays gone, they cannot support themselves or their trip home seeing as the cost of food would be immense, due to elongated travel time. 

And again, that's assuming the entire system now houses life, the majority of the Sol system is dead. 

[AJRimmsey]

Shinobu wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

What i am hoping is to get my sticky fingers into the games structure via an SDK
lots of my work ended up in some games.

heres an old folder i had on renderosity,each one a fully interactable 3d setup

http://www.renderosi...e=Max-UK&page=1

124 tb`s of files at home awaiting a game with a sci fi theme.

That is seriously cool. I like the Mothership best, I think.

most was removed after the law suit
never do a complete conversion without first checking the game devs

[Shinobu]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

The journey doesn't matter because SPOILER.

100% false.  You must be one of those people that think SPOILER

This is a no spoilers forum.

Actually, I'm not sure what is there and what isn't. Those things were large enough to be seen from outside the galaxy. That cannot be good. Also, if they were harmless, why run? Also, what are the implications of having all those people there with no way out? I think the implications are... unpleasant.

SPOILERS

If color not bad, why run? If color bad (eats half of the thing they're in) then how do others make it? I just get too confused. Also, why is my LI there when he was just by Shep? Do not like.

PLEASE, EVERYONE, REDACT YOUR SPOILERS.

[Shinobu]

AJRimmsey wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

What i am hoping is to get my sticky fingers into the games structure via an SDK
lots of my work ended up in some games.

heres an old folder i had on renderosity,each one a fully interactable 3d setup

http://www.renderosi...e=Max-UK&page=1

124 tb`s of files at home awaiting a game with a sci fi theme.

That is seriously cool. I like the Mothership best, I think.

most was removed after the law suit
never do a complete conversion without first checking the game devs

Oh, that must have sucked. Condolences.

[AJRimmsey]

Shinobu wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...


heres where im confused regarding tali. i romanced her in my last playthrough and when you do the love scene she says my body is adapted to you so no more getting sick.

could that possibly mean she wont get sick around humans as a species now do to being adapted?

also i really do believe the fleets you have to help you with earth will somehow live there

its crazy i know but its only a thought

*rubs crystal balls*

ME 4 - the journey home
ME 4 - the search for shephard

there are many subtle hints at it

Oh dear, I hope not. Not that I don't love Shep, but again, they said this is the end of Shep's story. After all the other statements going back on that one too wouldn't go down well at all.

I do think EA is somehow making Bioware keep this franchise alive instead of wrapping it up. Maybe they're already developing ME4 with dystopian mixed species stuck together on one planet vibe, so the color show HAS to be canon no matter what.

My moneys on a pregnancy

[Heimdall]

ziloe wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

The journey doesn't matter because everything we fought for is destroyed in the final scenes. And the indoctrination theory doesn't work, because you get the destroy ending even on the lowest military rating. 

100% false.  You must be one of those people that think all the relays blew up all the systems.  Please go watch the endings again.  You'll find that, though the relays were destroyed, the "Explosions" are the same color as the energy wave from the Crucible.  Rather than a violent torrent of energy, the energy of the relays was emitted in the same form as that energy wave, which the cinematics of earth show is largely harmless.

That's right folks, everything you fought for is still there.

And yet. refer to my post above.

I'll get it...

Yes, but no matter what, Joker and the crew are still screwed. Not to
mention, the last DLC of ME2 explains that the Mass Relays when
destroyed, can blow up an entire system. That means that every single
ending you pick, kills everyone. They basically sent entire
civilizations into hell. The Sol system cannot handle all those people.
Eventually fighting will break out and people will starve to death.
There is nothing happy about it.

A) Only if you assume that the planet is uninhabited, that they won't be rescued or that they will be unable to survive.   I can think of less pretty places to be stuck...

I've already explained that this is clearly not what happened in any of the endings.  They're all still very much alive.

C) Sol can handle all those people, all those ships have supplies let alone the supply ships that must have accompannied such a large fleet.  With so many ships lost, those supply ships, which would have been safely in the rear of the formation, are probably carrying excess.  Not to mention they have an entire solar system to mine for resources to prepare for the long arduous return journey.  They'll be fine.

D)  Yes, because there's nothing happy about the end of the threat of genocide via omnicidal super dreadnoughts <_<

A: Depending on where they are lost, they could be dead by the time a team arrives to rescue them. With the relays gone, it will now take YEARS to get anywhere. 

B: That's you assuming what the lore states as otherwise. When a relay is destroyed through fancy colours or otherwise, the destruction is immense and cataclysmic. This is the lore. 

C: Yes, but even supplies can only last so long. They don't bring that much due to the speed of the relays, but with the relays gone, they cannot support themselves or their trip home seeing as the cost of food would be immense, due to elongated travel time. 

And again, that's assuming the entire system now houses life, the majority of the Sol system is dead. 

A) Your again assuming a lot.  The bottom line is that we just don't know what will happen to the Normandy crew, good or bad.  That's the one part of the endings I would have changed to be honest.  I would have made them crash on earth.

  That's you assuming what the lore states as otherwise.  When the Crucible releases it's energy wave the effect is not widespread destruction.  The energy of the relays was clearly coopted into that wave rather than exploding outward.  That is what the endings show us.

C)  Not really, they didn't know how long the battle for earth would last or that the Reapers wouldn't block off the Charon relay.  They likely brought plenty of supplies and lost plenty of ships, leading to excess.  Of course, you should also consider that the Reapers were targeting population centers not farm land.  I'm willing to bet much of the Earth's food supply is largely intact and now they have many fewer people to feed.

Modifié par Lord Aesir, 19 mars 2012 - 03:36 .

[ziloe]

Shinobu wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

The journey doesn't matter because SPOILER.

100% false.  You must be one of those people that think SPOILER

This is a no spoilers forum.

Actually, I'm not sure what is there and what isn't. Those things were large enough to be seen from outside the galaxy. That cannot be good. Also, if they were harmless, why run? Also, what are the implications of having all those people there with no way out? I think the implications are... unpleasant.

SPOILERS

If color not bad, why run? If color bad (eats half of the thing they're in) then how do others make it? I just get too confused. Also, why is my LI there when he was just by Shep? Do not like.

PLEASE, EVERYONE, REDACT YOUR SPOILERS.

I'm trying to be fairly subtle with what I DO say, and it seems the spoiler forum is going insanely fast. 

[ziloe]

Lord Aesir wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I had no problem with the endings and don't really want them changed. My problem with those that complain about them is that I believe their expectations were based off erroneous impressions of marketing and unrealistic desires. I know the ending could have been a little better, but the sheer vehemence on these forums shocked me after I finished the game. I feel like everyone missed the point entirely.

I'm also miffed by the attitude that the endings render the entire series meaningless. Which doesn't even make sense no matter what way you spin it. Did you not enjoy the journey? How can such a ludicrous stance arise?

The journey doesn't matter because everything we fought for is destroyed in the final scenes. And the indoctrination theory doesn't work, because you get the destroy ending even on the lowest military rating. 

100% false.  You must be one of those people that think all the relays blew up all the systems.  Please go watch the endings again.  You'll find that, though the relays were destroyed, the "Explosions" are the same color as the energy wave from the Crucible.  Rather than a violent torrent of energy, the energy of the relays was emitted in the same form as that energy wave, which the cinematics of earth show is largely harmless.

That's right folks, everything you fought for is still there.

And yet. refer to my post above.

I'll get it...

Yes, but no matter what, Joker and the crew are still screwed. Not to
mention, the last DLC of ME2 explains that the Mass Relays when
destroyed, can blow up an entire system. That means that every single
ending you pick, kills everyone. They basically sent entire
civilizations into hell. The Sol system cannot handle all those people.
Eventually fighting will break out and people will starve to death.
There is nothing happy about it.

A) Only if you assume that the planet is uninhabited, that they won't be rescued or that they will be unable to survive.   I can think of less pretty places to be stuck...

I've already explained that this is clearly not what happened in any of the endings.  They're all still very much alive.

C) Sol can handle all those people, all those ships have supplies let alone the supply ships that must have accompannied such a large fleet.  With so many ships lost, those supply ships, which would have been safely in the rear of the formation, are probably carrying excess.  Not to mention they have an entire solar system to mine for resources to prepare for the long arduous return journey.  They'll be fine.

D)  Yes, because there's nothing happy about the end of the threat of genocide via omnicidal super dreadnoughts <_<

A: Depending on where they are lost, they could be dead by the time a team arrives to rescue them. With the relays gone, it will now take YEARS to get anywhere. 

B: That's you assuming what the lore states as otherwise. When a relay is destroyed through fancy colours or otherwise, the destruction is immense and cataclysmic. This is the lore. 

C: Yes, but even supplies can only last so long. They don't bring that much due to the speed of the relays, but with the relays gone, they cannot support themselves or their trip home seeing as the cost of food would be immense, due to elongated travel time. 

And again, that's assuming the entire system now houses life, the majority of the Sol system is dead. 

A) Your again assuming a lot.  The bottom line is that we just don't know what will happen to the Normandy crew, good or bad.  That's the one part of the endings I would have changed to be honest.  I would have made them crash on earth.

  That's you assuming what the lore states as otherwise.  When the Crucible releases it's energy wave the effect is not widespread destruction.  The energy of the relays was clearly coopted into that wave rather than exploding outward.  That is what the endings show us.

C)  Not really, they didn't know how long the battle for earth would last or that the Reapers wouldn't block off the Charon relay.  They likely brought plenty of supplies and lost plenty of ships, leading to excess.  Of course, you should also consider that the Reapers were targeting population centers not farm land.  I'm willing to bet much of the Earth's food supply is largely intact.

A: They were in a relay, which means they weren't in Sol anymore. And so at least we agree on that. 

B: Think of it as a failsafe, kind of like that Krogan incident. *spoilers not included*

C: And again, even farm land can't hold that much for a huge fleet like that. 

[Link Ashland 614]

Han Shot First wrote...

I think it is awesome that this push for a better ending is also generating a lot of money for a great cause. That is the way you go about trying to change something. Whiners? Hardly.

This is why I have nothing against the ones who didn't like the endings and want to change it. This is a very good thing to do, and as a fan of the endings, I'm not in your way

[Heimdall]

ziloe wrote...
A: They were in a relay, which means they weren't in Sol anymore. And so at least we agree on that. 

B: Think of it as a failsafe, kind of like that Krogan incident. *spoilers not included*

C: And again, even farm land can't hold that much for a huge fleet like that. 

Thought I'd get rid of some excessive quotes.

A)  Actually we don't see them on a relay, but when the camera pans up we see what appears to be a large planet and a moon in the sky so it's safe to say they aren't on earth.

  What?  I don't understand what you mean.

C)  Please, even a fleet that size isn't equal to the earth's population of billions that those farms feed (There's also fishing and hunting for that matter, let alone ranching).  And that's at full strength, given the fantastic casualty rate, we're looking at a much smaller number.

[ziloe]

Lord Aesir wrote...

ziloe wrote...
A: They were in a relay, which means they weren't in Sol anymore. And so at least we agree on that. 

B: Think of it as a failsafe, kind of like that Krogan incident. *spoilers not included*

C: And again, even farm land can't hold that much for a huge fleet like that. 

Thought I'd get rid of some excessive quotes.

A)  Actually we don't see them on a relay, but when the camera pans up we see what appears to be a large planet and a moon in the sky so it's safe to say they aren't on earth.

  What?  I don't understand what you mean.

C)  Please, even a fleet that size isn't equal to the earth's population of billions that those farms feed (There's also fishing and hunting for that matter, let alone ranching).  And that's at full strength, given the fantastic casualty rate, we're looking at a much smaller number.

A: Oh of course, which is why there's an issue as to even rescuing them. 

B: It's hard to say without making it a massive spoiler. 

C: I just don't see them surviving very long, or if anything waring for rulership. Not to mention, Krogans and their vast making of children had you cured it.

[Heimdall]

ziloe wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

ziloe wrote...
A: They were in a relay, which means they weren't in Sol anymore. And so at least we agree on that. 

B: Think of it as a failsafe, kind of like that Krogan incident. *spoilers not included*

C: And again, even farm land can't hold that much for a huge fleet like that. 

Thought I'd get rid of some excessive quotes.

A)  Actually we don't see them on a relay, but when the camera pans up we see what appears to be a large planet and a moon in the sky so it's safe to say they aren't on earth.

  What?  I don't understand what you mean.

C)  Please, even a fleet that size isn't equal to the earth's population of billions that those farms feed (There's also fishing and hunting for that matter, let alone ranching).  And that's at full strength, given the fantastic casualty rate, we're looking at a much smaller number.

A: Oh of course, which is why there's an issue as to even rescuing them. 

B: It's hard to say without making it a massive spoiler. 

C: I just don't see them surviving very long, or if anything waring for rulership. Not to mention, Krogans and their vast making of children had you cured it.

A) I just think their fate isn't so much "screwed over" as "up in the air"

  You could try a PM if you like.

C)  I don't think so, the primary concern of the alien fleets will be getting home not ruling.  I'm sure what's left of the Alliance will be able to maintain a semblance of order until the Earth governments, whose level of functioning by the end is unknown to us,  restabilize.  Also, I doubt the Krogan brought any females with them, they probably haven't dropped the habit of safeguarding the females yet.

We should probaably move this discussion to PMs anyway.

Modifié par Lord Aesir, 19 mars 2012 - 04:05 .