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[FRancium]

That's what I thought before playing :the ending couldn't be that bad, they can end it however they want.

I was wrong, I got a poorly-written, plot-hole rampant, out of character of an ending. (see, I didn't even talk about happy ending or closure or variety)

And I defended DA2. At the end of that one, all the major plot players were established, Hawk could talk and talk, but nobody listened. It made me sympathize with Hawk, and how powerless he felt at the end. In ME3? Spacekid came out of nowhere, said a few sentences and Shepard doesn't even question him in any way.

Modifié par FRancium, 18 mars 2012 - 08:03 .

[revo76]

Carlthestrange wrote...

[RenownedRyan]

Must be cool working at BioWare!

[crapmonster13]

Carlthestrange wrote...

[Logiwonk]

 

[Cooptimo]

PGR94 wrote...

I did not think this would get many responses. It seems I was wrong. Anyway, I'm not trying to speak for everyone or anything. I'm just trying to say that while many (and by many, I mean pretty much everyone) people hate the ending, some people don't and it doesn't change my view of the Mass Effect trilogy. I mean, my goal after Mass Effect 1 was to destroy the Reapers and that's exactly what I did, assuming it was a real ending and not some dream/indoctrination, etc. So, in my opinion, everything worked out, albeit in a slightly different way than I thought it would.

Great,  Wonderful.    And I don't think you are wrong for sharing that.  And you'll notice that most people's response in the last few pages hasn't been to attack you, it's just sharing why we disagree.   Heck,  I wish I was the same,  I'd love to enjoy what there is there.  But I don't so I'm hoping things can get better.

Hold the Line.

[CitizenSnips]

Anytime I see someone start a train of thought with "let's be honest", I brace myself for an opinion wrapped in fact wrapping paper.

[Mundas]

OP an ending that undoes the entire ME universe, not the best idea is it?

[JunMadine]

You are either a troll or don't understand us or Mass effect.  I am sorry.
There is more to this then you are willing to understand.

Modifié par JunMadine, 18 mars 2012 - 08:07 .

[Carlthestrange]

Okay, I really only posted that image as a joke. Lets not destroy what could be an insightful debate folks.

(Yeah, I know its all my fault, sorry about that.)

[vigna]

We are listening to your feedback!

[JunMadine]

Mundas wrote...

OP an ending that undoes the entire ME universe, not the best idea is it?

This is what I feel. 

[Myrmedus]

PGR94 wrote...

I did not think this would get many responses. It seems I was wrong. Anyway, I'm not trying to speak for everyone or anything. I'm just trying to say that while many (and by many, I mean pretty much everyone) people hate the ending, some people don't and it doesn't change my view of the Mass Effect trilogy. I mean, my goal after Mass Effect 1 was to destroy the Reapers and that's exactly what I did, assuming it was a real ending and not some dream/indoctrination, etc. So, in my opinion, everything worked out, albeit in a slightly different way than I thought it would.

I envy you...but for many of us it has killed not only ME3 but the previous games too.

As one single, solitary example: consider the Catalyst's revelation that it essentially "controls" the Reapers. Now, rewind back to the conversation with Sovereign with ME1 - somehow, it doesn't have anything close to the same punch as it once did knowing the entity I am speaking to is essentially a slave of sorts - it is NOT independent and that kills Sovereign's presence for me.

That's just one example of how the ending has ruined things retroactively.

[JunMadine]

Carlthestrange wrote...

Okay, I really only posted that image as a joke. Lets not destroy what could be an insightful debate folks.

(Yeah, I know its all my fault, sorry about that.)

For you I will edit my post. My words are what matter.

[Carlthestrange]

JunMadine wrote...

You are either a troll or don't understand us or Mass effect.  I am sorry.
There is more to this then you are willing to understand.

Not sure if serious...

[Cooptimo]

FRancium wrote...

That's what I thought before playing :the ending couldn't be that bad, they can end it however they want.

I was wrong, I got a poorly-written, plot-hole rampant, out of character of an ending. (see, I didn't even talk about happy ending or closure or variety)

And I defended DA2. At the end of that one, all the major plot players were established, Hawk could talk and talk, but nobody listened. It made me sympathize with Hawk, and how powerless he felt at the end. In ME3? Spacekid came out of nowhere, said a few sentences and Shepard doesn't even question him in any way.

Yes,  this.   DA2 wasn't what I expected and I was a little dissapointed with it,  but I when I did a replay, I ended up liking it.   It had some flaws, but the end was consistent with what had come before.   Being forced to make a difficult painful decision wasn't so bad when we had been building to it for the rest of the game.    That's not what ME3 did.

Hold The Line

[ImAFckingDragn]

Evil_medved wrote...

Carlthestrange wrote...

I don't even know why I'm still laughing at this, it has been almost a week yet I still start cracking up every time I see it.

Modifié par ImAFckingDragn, 18 mars 2012 - 08:10 .

[jimbyjimb]

Legion reached consensus on the ending in .022517 nano-seconds. He said it was bad.

[111987]

sadako wrote...

PGR94 wrote...

The ending's not that bad, really. It wasn't quite what any of us expected but was it that bad? Does it actually change your view of Mass Effect or Bioware? Problem is, no matter what the ending is, people will complain. We all had our different ideas about how the trilogy would end and this is the way Bioware chose to end it. And remember they're the ones who created this amazing franchise in the first place. They can end it how they want. And at least they chose to end it memorably! 

When it comes down to it, Mass Effect is about the characters and events you experience throughout the story. It's the journey, not the destination that matters. And no one here can deny that the trilogy of Mass Effect is one of the greatest gaming experiences in recent years. In decades, even.

Bioware, you gave us an amazing gaming series! You end it however you want! 

corporate ****/sockpuppet detected.
Please start charity to prove how much you love the endings. I mean, it's a good cause, and I'm sure since you like it so much, you should start a charity to show how much you love it!
http://retakemasseff...ect-childs-play

This post is so awful I can't even believe you posted it. Think about what you are saying.

The people basically just dismissing the OP's opinion really doesn't make the Retake Mass Effect movement look noble.


"Let's be honest, you're either
trying to troll or haven't given sufficient time into reading the
grievances of others."

"The ending was terrible by any standards."-Except by the standards of the people who liked it?

"How much did they pay you to write this?"

That's from the first page alone. Seriously guys...

[Shaun72]

[JunMadine]

Carlthestrange wrote...

JunMadine wrote...

You are either a troll or don't understand us or Mass effect.  I am sorry.
There is more to this then you are willing to understand.

Not sure if serious...

I am.  I truely am.  What bothers me most is that people assume we are petulant children complaining that things didn't go our way.  The truth is we have witnessed the end of the road and found that there was nothing there to find.  It feels like my time has been wasted on a lie.

[Piddlestick]

PGR94 wrote...

The ending's not that bad, really. It wasn't quite what any of us expected but was it that bad? Does it actually change your view of Mass Effect or Bioware? Problem is, no matter what the ending is, people will complain. We all had our different ideas about how the trilogy would end and this is the way Bioware chose to end it. And remember they're the ones who created this amazing franchise in the first place. They can end it how they want. And at least they chose to end it memorably! 

When it comes down to it, Mass Effect is about the characters and events you experience throughout the story. It's the journey, not the destination that matters. And no one here can deny that the trilogy of Mass Effect is one of the greatest gaming experiences in recent years. In decades, even.

Bioware, you gave us an amazing gaming series! You end it however you want! 

Wow... since when did I end it however I wanted? Man, what game are you playing?

[Relwyn]

PGR94 wrote...

When it comes down to it, Mass Effect is about the characters and events you experience throughout the story. It's the journey, not the destination that matters.

I respectfully and vehemently disagree.

PGR94 wrote... 
Bioware, you gave us an amazing gaming series! You end it however you want! 

After making promises and then blatantly breaking them? No, you don't get away with that so easily.

[pjotroos]

111987 wrote...

This post is so awful I can't even believe you posted it. Think about what you are saying.

The people basically just dismissing the OP's opinion really doesn't make the Retake Mass Effect movement look noble.


"Let's be honest, you're either
trying to troll or haven't given sufficient time into reading the
grievances of others."

"The ending was terrible by any standards."-Except by the standards of the people who liked it?

"How much did they pay you to write this?"

That's from the first page alone. Seriously guys...

Agreed, man. People want a mature discussion about why endings were bad and need to be fixed in our eyes, yet the moment someone who disagrees they're at his throat. This is precisely where the "entitled" nonsense comes from. Some people will simply like those endings. Deal with it.

[darknessmyown]

Carlthestrange wrote...

He was trying to save us from the ending...