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[BDelacroix]

When I type about the ending, I am being honest.

[Valo_Soren]

Neuthung wrote...

Let's be honest, you're either trying to troll or haven't given sufficient time into reading the grievances of others.

The grievances of others is mostly just a bunch of childish whining because for some reason people think they know better then the actual makers of the game.

Here's a tip: They do not.

So why would we, who like the ending, give a rats  -expletive deleted- about your grievances when we whole heartedly disagree with you?

[captainbob8383]

Carlthestrange wrote...

[Marwood09]

PGR94 wrote...

The ending's not that bad, really. It wasn't quite what any of us expected but was it that bad? Does it actually change your view of Mass Effect or Bioware? Problem is, no matter what the ending is, people will complain.

(a) Yes, yes it does.

( True but if they had an ending that made sense, it wouldn't be an outcry that raised 53,000 dollars in charity.

[Carlthestrange]

Valo_Soren wrote...

So why would we, who like the ending, give a rats  -expletive deleted- about your grievances when we whole heartedly disagree with you?

We could say the same about you. And its not about knowing how to make a better ending. its knowing most of us could write a better ending with one hand tied behind our back.

Its about being given an ending that completely invalidates everything you've fought for. Its about being entitled to an opinion, which both sides seem to keep forgetting.

[Aver88]

For me ending of ME3 just doesn't fit whole series. This series was based on solid facts and on logical reactions based on your action.

Suddenly ending is some sort of metaphysical garbage with tons of plot holes without any conclusion. It literally sound like it was written by someone else. Someone who had nothing to do with ME series. Also it's not based in anyway on your previous actions.

On other hand leaked script had good explanation why everything is happening. It wasn't uber great, but it was solid. There wasn't any metaphysical bullshat about preserving biological life by changing it into synthetic life. Why they decided to change it? Because it was leaked? If so, then it was bad decision.

[KotorEffect3]

Neuthung wrote...

Let's be honest, you're either trying to troll or haven't given sufficient time into reading the grievances of others.

Someone posts an opinion that you don't agree with and you automaticaly accuse them of trolling.

[111987]

Aver88 wrote...

For me ending of ME3 just doesn't fit whole series. This series was based on solid facts and on logical reactions based on your action.

Suddenly ending is some sort of metaphysical garbage with tons of plot holes without any conclusion. It literally sound like it was written by someone else. Someone who had nothing to do with ME series. Also it's not based in anyway on your previous actions.

On other hand leaked script had good explanation why everything is happening. It wasn't uber great, but it was solid. There wasn't any metaphysical bullshat about preserving biological life by changing it into synthetic life. Why they decided to change it? Because it was leaked? If so, then it was bad decision.

If it was changed because it was leaked, some of the blame should go to the people who put Bioware on blast for the original ending. Remember people were raging about the leaks too.

[JohnnyG]

Carlthestrange wrote...

[Emberwake]

PGR94 wrote...
Bioware, you gave us an amazing gaming series! You end it however you want! 

So if they had instead just had Shepard stumble into the beam and cut away to a rickroll, that would be ok with you?

"End it however you want!" Yeah right. Some of us aren't ok with deus ex machina, plotholes, and arbitrary decisions that have absolutely no connection to the previous events. But hey, its probably way easier to just endorse everything they do, because they're Bioware and you're a fan!

I love Mass Effect. I enjoyed all three games, right up until the finale. I would love to see a finale worthy of the franchise, and I'm not going to say that I love whatever they feed me no matter how it tastes.

Hold the line.

Modifié par Lochias WH, 18 mars 2012 - 08:57 .

[Zardoc]

Carlthestrange wrote...

[KotorEffect3]

Lochias WH wrote...

PGR94 wrote...
Bioware, you gave us an amazing gaming series! You end it however you want! 

So if they had instead just had Shepard stumble into the beam and cut away to a video of Casey Hudson flipping the player off and rolling in money, that would be ok with you?

lol at this point yeah, I would laugh because well people just don't appreciate the rest of the game they just fixate on the ending.

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 18 mars 2012 - 09:15 .

[Aver88]

111987 wrote...
If it was changed because it was leaked, some of the blame should go to the people who put Bioware on blast for the original ending. Remember people were raging about the leaks too.

I know, but they should consider that most of fans didn't want to read leaked script. Who want to spoil his favorite game? If someone did read leaked script probably didn't care about game anyway.   

[Tookii]

PGR94 wrote...

Bioware, you gave us an amazing gaming series! You end it however you want! 

Excuse my english, but did i just read that propperly? ''End it how they want to end it?''
You do realize Mass effect is built on ''Player choice'' and the fact that the previous games mastered that VERY well through the entire game ( even the ending ), and that this one did not, is a digrace to the franchise.

So it did not really matter that i cured the Geniphage cus they are doomed anyway, it did not matter that the Geth and Quarians where united cus inn the end, they are also going down, EVERYTHING is going down because of the Relays getting Destroyed.

And why the crap did this ''God child'' ( reapers ) Build the citadel with 3 different ''Self Destruct Buttons''? And why inn the world would they explain to shepard that the best possible choice was to make a entierly new form of D.N.A for everything to be O.K , and not have done that BILLIONS of years ago?

The endings makes NO SENSE its as simple as that. And the fact that what we did inn the previous games does not matter ( to an extent) is sickening. It's like i got to love this franchise for nothing, throwing money around and throwing precious time.

HOLD THE LINE:alien:

[Aver88]

All Dead wrote...
 Just stupidly implausible and completely unsatisfying.

If something is stupidly implausible and completely unsatisfying, I call it "bad".

[Rip504]

111987 wrote...

If it was changed because it was leaked, some of the blame should go to the people who put Bioware on blast for the original ending. Remember people were raging about the leaks too.

So raging fans have already helped change the ending once?
So they should keep on raging. Some of us did not read the leaked script.
IMO Bioware wanted to go with something simple and safe. Colliding galaxies and dark energy may confuse some fans. Most people are familiar with the Matrix & IRobot type of movies.

[Lady Catastrophe]

Carlthestrange wrote...

[111987]

Tookii wrote...

PGR94 wrote...

Bioware, you gave us an amazing gaming series! You end it however you want! 

Excuse my english, but did i just read that propperly? ''End it how they want to end it?''
You do realize Mass effect is built on ''Player choice'' and the fact that the previous games mastered that VERY well through the entire game ( even the ending ), and that this one did not, is a digrace to the franchise.

Mass Effect is built of of the player's choice, but the choices provided have always been by Bioware, and there have always been limits to choice. This isn't any different.

The problem people have is that most people weren't presented with a choice they liked.

[Carlthestrange]

111987 wrote...

The problem people have is that most people weren't presented with a choice they liked.

Being asked to pick a colour for the same result itsn't that cool a choice.

[111987]

Carlthestrange wrote...

111987 wrote...

The problem people have is that most people weren't presented with a choice they liked.

Being asked to pick a colour for the same result itsn't that cool a choice.

You're supposed to consider the implications of what each 'color' does. The fate of the galaxy afterwards is drastically altered based on what you choose.

[Icinix]

PGR94 wrote...

The ending's not that bad, really. It wasn't quite what any of us expected but was it that bad? Does it actually change your view of Mass Effect or Bioware? Problem is, no matter what the ending is, people will complain. We all had our different ideas about how the trilogy would end and this is the way Bioware chose to end it. And remember they're the ones who created this amazing franchise in the first place. They can end it how they want. And at least they chose to end it memorably! 

When it comes down to it, Mass Effect is about the characters and events you experience throughout the story. It's the journey, not the destination that matters. And no one here can deny that the trilogy of Mass Effect is one of the greatest gaming experiences in recent years. In decades, even.

Bioware, you gave us an amazing gaming series! You end it however you want! 

Lets be honest...

The ending is that bad, really. It wasn't connected to any logic or lore, and it was that bad. It does change my view of Mass Effect and BioWare. Problem is, no matter what ending you choose, its all the same. We all had our idea the ending would be sensical and in the themes of the trilogy and this is the way BioWare chose to throw the ending off the cliff. And remember they're the ones who created this amazing franchise in the first place, so it doesn't make sense they ended it this way. Yes they chose to end it memorably allright.

When it comes down to it, Mass Effect is about the characters and events you experience which are promptly left unknown and nullifies your choices. The journey is just as important as the destination. And no one here can deny that the trilogy of Mass Effect is one of the greatest gaming experiences in recent years.

BioWare, you gave us an amazing gaming series! You end it the way it deserves to be ended!

Also: On the whole journey vs destination. BioWare was very frustrated by the number of people who didn't finsih DAO and indeed they are always monitoring how many people complete their games. DA2 was designed with the intention of getting a high completion rate. Which would see to indicate their desing philosophy runs counter to their view that the Journey is greater than the destination.

[Icinix]

Aver88 wrote...

111987 wrote...
If it was changed because it was leaked, some of the blame should go to the people who put Bioware on blast for the original ending. Remember people were raging about the leaks too.

I know, but they should consider that most of fans didn't want to read leaked script. Who want to spoil his favorite game? If someone did read leaked script probably didn't care about game anyway.   

Its actually pretty identical.

[Tookii]

True, they are made by Bioware. But as i said, the previous games mastered it better, since it gave us alot more outcomes and outcomes wich actualy made some sense. Theese dont, Why would the reapers WANT shepard to destroy/control them? After the first 2 games, they CLEARLY state that they are here to end all organic life. And as i stated before, why would they make the citadel their own worst enemy?`( by that i mean 3 different ways to end their regime ). Inn the end, it does not matter what you pick, everything goes to hell. Earth cant populate the entire Fleet you have assembeled. Thats just a fact, and why did Joker leave Shepard behind? NOTHING. MAKES....SENSE

[Carlthestrange]

111987 wrote...

You're supposed to consider the implications of what each 'color' does. The fate of the galaxy afterwards is drastically altered based on what you choose.

In all 3, the Mass Relays go boom. In two, the Citadel goes boom. In all 3, the fleet you brought to Earth is stranded, stuck on a wrecked world that won't have the resources to keep them all alive, as well as considering the fact that if the Normandy was brought down by the energy wave, so too will the entire fleet.

Congratulations, you just killed almost everyone in your united fleet, and the survivors are forever cut off from the rest of the galaxy, doomed to struggle and fight one another for Earths resources.

Thats not an ending. Thats critical mission failure to me.