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Ronin1325

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Oh, I can't *believe* I forgot this! -

"Yo Joe!" (Fist Raised)

Unless I was Snakeyes, then I wouldn't say anything. I'd just stand there looking cool in my Ninjasuit. :bandit:

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Helping meaningful thread get back on the first page is both a duty and an honour.

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And yet if they violate more than 10 rules to give people what they want and break lore even more, then people would overlook it. It is about people having an ending they have personal satsifaction with period. These proxy issues can be satsified with an even more grimdark ending. What will you come up with then?

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Great vid, all Bioware employees should see it. Vote for sticky!

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InvincibleHero wrote...

And yet if they violate more than 10 rules to give people what they want and break lore even more, then people would overlook it. It is about people having an ending they have personal satsifaction with period. These proxy issues can be satsified with an even more grimdark ending. What will you come up with then?


I suspect most would be happy with 2-3 more endings. A (relatively) happy 'rainbows & unicorns' ending, a 'reapers win', "grimdark" ending, and possibly the Indoctrination Theory ending, which though the odds seem to be against it, is my personal fav choice. That isn't an impossible task for Bioware.

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Don't try to derail the point into simply wanting a happy ending. All we common folks want is to have more variety, more depth and more detail in the endings. Be it tragic or happy, an ending of such a trilogy should be the result of the collective action and decisions we've our Shep made through out the entire series. Are we seeing that in our endings? Are you?

Modifié par Kerilus, 19 mars 2012 - 04:19 .


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Kerilus wrote...

Don't try to derail the point into simply wanting a happy ending. All we common folks want is to have more variety, more depth and more detail in the endings. Be it tragic or happy, an ending of such a trilogy should be the result of the collective action and decisions we've our Shep made through out the entire series. Are we seeing that in our endings? Are you?


I wasn't trying to derail it at all. I said a 'relatively' happy ending, based on how well the player has done up to that point.

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Ronin1325 wrote...

Kerilus wrote...

Don't try to derail the point into simply wanting a happy ending. All we common folks want is to have more variety, more depth and more detail in the endings. Be it tragic or happy, an ending of such a trilogy should be the result of the collective action and decisions we've our Shep made through out the entire series. Are we seeing that in our endings? Are you?


I wasn't trying to derail it at all. I said a 'relatively' happy ending, based on how well the player has done up to that point.

Oh I was actually replying to Invincible hero, sorry mate.

Modifié par Kerilus, 19 mars 2012 - 04:24 .


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My thoughts exactly. Thanks to the author to perfectly sum them up

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 Excellent list - Joe sums up and hits every nail on the head about why we hate these damn endings.

Modifié par AVPen, 19 mars 2012 - 04:40 .


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I love this guy, totally sums up what i'm angry about.

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Perfectly explains the problems with the ending.

#163
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This video makes bioware look like horrible, lazy, blatant liars. Good work man.

#164
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Joe nailed it. Signed

#165
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yeah fail ending bioware fail ending so not GOTY for Mass effect 3

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Man, i really feel bad for you ME fans....

The last Bioware game I played was DAO ( one of my favorite games of all time)......and with what was done to DA2, I realized that the franchise was probably dead thanks to EA's influence ( I did not buy DA2). This led me to hold out hope for the ME series which was on my list of games/series to play in the very near future.

Thankfully, ME3 came out before I was able to start the series, and all the complaints about how much of a let down the ending was, I was spared what i am sure would've been a huge, massive, gaping emotional wound, especially knowing how attached I get to characters in really great RPGs.

Nothing like knowing all of your efforts were completely in vain. Needless to say, with that in mind, there is no way in hell im buying any ME game since the actual gameplay itself doesn't have any particularly notable redeeming qualities.

An RPG series in which your story has no bearing on the ultimate ending is most definitely not an RPG series worth playing. I discuss video games alot with my rather large group of friends who very very often come to me for advice on what games to buy/play. I will most definitely tell them NOT to touch this series.

Additionally, if they set this whole thing up as a way to make you pay for DLC and it is discovered to be planned in advance......it would probably be the most disgusting example of a gaming company taking advantage of its fans to rip them off in gaming history. ( Quick note, if they make DLC as a reaction to the outcry and it was NOT planned in advance but more of an admittance of error, I would give them credit for listening to their community.)

- The Battlemaster Aurust

Edit** Angry Joe always makes great vids, as others said, his lack of anger in this vid really makes me understand just how dissapointed you guys are.

Modifié par Aurust, 19 mars 2012 - 04:53 .


#167
GamerrangerX

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i approve this thread 100%

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I loved this review. Even with the ending he gave it a favorable score overall, which is right and proves he wasn't just hate'n the whole game.

Now I can't wait to see Zero Punctuation's review. Probably taking a while since he as so much data to work with...

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Avalon Aurora

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This youtube video excellently illustrates my own thoughts and feelings as well. Really Bioware?

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This video brings up exactly what I think is wrong with the ending

#171
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Bioware has already let Joe know they are listening.

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Nicely done! Really great breakdown of all that's wrong with the endings. :)

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Video nailed it

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While I'm not furious at the endings, I recognize that they are very flawed, and tarnish an otherwise excellent game and series.

I agree with most of Joe's list strongly, and the ones where I don't agree strongly, I at least somewhat agree.

I'm not for rewriting the endings, but ME3 needs post End DLC badly, or at the absolute minimum explanations for the logical inconsistancies in the end.

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What a great video! Nice top 10 reasons why we hate it and he nailed every single one of them brilliantly.