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[Remus A]

111987 wrote...

It's called an "opinion".

Something which people clearly aren't tolerant of here.

Just look at all the insulting posts in this thread alone.

^

I didn't like the ending, but that doesn't mean my opinion is as invalid as the people who did like the ending. 

[stevesyanks17hotmail.com]

And you wonder why you all get called whiny babies

"WAAAAAAHHHHH someone didn't like the ending they must be: casual/dumb/simple/easy to please/etc."

[Simpfan]

stevesyanks17hotmail.com wrote...

And you wonder why you all get called whiny babies

"WAAAAAAHHHHH someone didn't like the ending they must be: casual/dumb/simple/easy to please/etc."

Or my favorite, corporate plants

[arthurhallam]

111987 wrote...

It's called an "opinion".

Something which people clearly aren't tolerant of here.

Just look at all the insulting posts in this thread alone.

Exactly. People should try & enjoy the debate a little bit more. Instead, any view that isn't "the ending sucked - fix it" is simply rebutted without any desire to go beyond the frame of the discussion as decided by the Retakers. 

[Valo_Soren]

Vhalkyrie wrote...

If you played ME3 on its own without any of the investment in the others, the ending is probably 'average' rather than 'epic fail'. Many of the people who 'like' it, still don't 'love' it.

I love it, you want to try again? 

[sistersafetypin]

effortname wrote...

There's people who pay for Nickelback albums.

 That's a great way to explain it.

[Valo_Soren]

Terminus Echoes wrote...

Probably lack of attention to ME1/ME2.

I have 7 shepard saves through both games, each one played 7 times...and I still loved Mass Effect 3, especially its ending, you want to try again?

[KillSlash45]

Turkeysock wrote...

If someone likes the ending, good for them. Let them enjoy the endings.

What I don't like about them is that so many of these people like to come on here and tell those of us who didn't like the endings how we are "wrong" or "don't understand".

I bought Mass Effect 1 in 2008. It's the first game I've actually finished and replayed in years (not since the release of Suikoden 5). When ME2 was about to come out, I replayed several more times. Then when ME3 came out, I started several fresh characters and took them from ME1-2, and a few have made it to ME3. I'm still playing ME3, I've enjoyed the game. I just hate the ending.

I expected better then that. That is what pushes me.

And yet this is filled with posts insulting us that enjoyed the ending.

Apparently those that liked the ending are just deaf dumb and blind bio-drones

Modifié par KillSlash45, 18 mars 2012 - 09:59 .

[Valo_Soren]

sistersafetypin wrote...

effortname wrote...

There's people who pay for Nickelback albums.

 That's a great way to explain it.

Nickelback sucks, and I still loved the Mass Effect 3 ending, try again.

[GnusmasTHX]

It baffles me that the OP learned to use a computer before realizing that people have different opinions.

[Azreal Inc]

For some people I think the end is just good. I see no reason to attack anyone over their liking the ending because I wish I was one of them to be honest. People like all ranges of different things. Nothing new.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Valo_Soren wrote...

sistersafetypin wrote...

effortname wrote...

There's people who pay for Nickelback albums.

 That's a great way to explain it.

Nickelback sucks, and I still loved the Mass Effect 3 ending, try again.

Obviously you don't understand the point; what they were trying to say is that there will always be people who like things that are seen by most as being extremely bad.

[Valo_Soren]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Valo_Soren wrote...

sistersafetypin wrote...

effortname wrote...

There's people who pay for Nickelback albums.

 That's a great way to explain it.

Nickelback sucks, and I still loved the Mass Effect 3 ending, try again.

Obviously you don't understand the point; what they were trying to say is that there will always be people who like things that are seen by most as being extremely bad.

ANd you're assuming just because 50,000 people, 2.5 percent of the million plus copies sold that the majority of people don't like the game, so by saying 'most' you should in fact repace that with 'the vocal minority'.

[sistersafetypin]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Militarized wrote...

I could be really, really rude and describe my true feelings about most people who like the endings but... I think it's a mixed bag of people not paying attention and just nodding their head along and others being contrarian just to be a contrarian.

Here we go again - and this is exactly why I can barely stand a lot of the people in this "movement" now. If you can't accept that some people appreciate (like me) are give a bit more weight to the philosophical nature of the endings (the ideas behind them too) and can live with the plot holes (I'm certainly not ignorant of them or the other issues), well, I could certainly be really rude and describe my true feelings about you people too. Which is pretty sad, given that I was supportive of you. But hey, thanks for another reminder of why I won't do that anymore for your "movement" as a whole.

So because a few people don't like you in an abstract way, you denounce a whole movement? Nice. 

[cotheer]

Valo_Soren wrote...

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Valo_Soren wrote...

sistersafetypin wrote...

effortname wrote...

There's people who pay for Nickelback albums.

 That's a great way to explain it.

Nickelback sucks, and I still loved the Mass Effect 3 ending, try again.

Obviously you don't understand the point; what they were trying to say is that there will always be people who like things that are seen by most as being extremely bad.

ANd you're assuming just because 50,000 people, 2.5 percent of the million plus copies sold that the majority of people don't like the game, so by saying 'most' you should in fact repace that with 'the vocal minority'.

And with that you assumed that everyone except those 50K liked the endings.
Statistics is not that hard to understand.

[AtreiyaN7]

Simpfan wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Militarized wrote...

I could be really, really rude and describe my true feelings about most people who like the endings but... I think it's a mixed bag of people not paying attention and just nodding their head along and others being contrarian just to be a contrarian.

Here we go again - and this is exactly why I can barely stand a lot of the people in this "movement" now. If you can't accept that some people appreciate (like me) are give a bit more weight to the philosophical nature of the endings (the ideas behind them too) and can live with the plot holes (I'm certainly not ignorant of them or the other issues), well, I could certainly be really rude and describe my true feelings about you people too. Which is pretty sad, given that I was supportive of you. But hey, thanks for another reminder of why I won't do that anymore for your "movement" as a whole.

Queue the replies talking about how the poor, put open, down trodden masses are constantly hated everywhere so its only fair to be a dick in return.

EDIT: And since I misread Simpfan's response, this is edited to reflect that this only applies to those in the "movement" who are perfectly okay with insulting the intellects of those who aren't outraged by the endings, etc.

In threads where some genius has decided to insult the "movement" as whole, I've actually said that calling you guys names doesn't help and that you have entirely valid reasons for being dissatisifed (when I actually noticed things like that in the flood of hate threads and cared enough to respond).

I have zero interest in keeping the peace at this point or trying to get people on both sides to behave reasonably and civilly towards each other, so if they go to town on people in the "movement" now, I don't care anymore thanks to the stuff I read in threads like these.

And that poster up there with the image that's quite likely a violation of the site rules is such a shining exemplar of how mature people in the "movement" can all be. *sarcasm* BTW, that's a hint that you should probably remove it before you get into trouble, guy with the ill-advised and insulting image whose name I don't care to remember.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 18 mars 2012 - 10:27 .

[sistersafetypin]

I honestly don't think the OP was trying to start a flame war. Maybe I'm an eternal optimist, but what I got from the Op was a genuine question being asked to the people that enjoyed the ending. That people that posted after that made jokes is neither here nor there. And considering if any of the Retake Movement so much as click on any "Gaminig Blog' they're immediately assaulted with the insults of people that don't even try to understand...

I think the people that like the endings could at least simmer down enough to stop taking everything so personally.

Modifié par sistersafetypin, 18 mars 2012 - 10:05 .

[AtreiyaN7]

sistersafetypin wrote...

So because a few people don't like you in an abstract way, you denounce a whole movement? Nice. 

No, it's because of the ongoing behavior of people in here, in almost every single thread, every day. And it only takes a few people to ruin the image of a group as a whole.

[Adamantium93]

The OP asked why people who liked the endings liked them. I think he wants to see the opposite side of the argument, and quite frankly, id like to as well. Yet so far no one who likes the endings has answered that question.

[stevesyanks17hotmail.com]

Simpfan wrote...

stevesyanks17hotmail.com wrote...

And you wonder why you all get called whiny babies

"WAAAAAAHHHHH someone didn't like the ending they must be: casual/dumb/simple/easy to please/etc."

Or my favorite, corporate plants

Yes, Bioware placed me here. I joined in 2009 knowing that you all would hate the ending.

Bioware had me lie dormant.

I did not post at all until last week. My mission was clear. Wait until people have played the game. Why not make an account closer to the game being released, you ask. Why not mess with dummies like the tinfoil hat wearing person I am quoting? Why not post sometime in the three other years this account was open?

INDOCTRINATION. HOLD THE LINE.

Modifié par stevesyanks17hotmail.com, 18 mars 2012 - 10:08 .

[KillSlash45]

sistersafetypin wrote...

I honestly don't think the OP was trying to start a flame war. Maybe I'm an eternal optimist, but what I got from the Op was a genuine question being asked to the people that enjoyed the ending. That people that posted after that made jokes is neither here nor there. And considering if any of the Retake Movement so much as click on any "Gaminig Blog' they're immediately assaulted with the insults of people that don't even try to understand...

I think the people that like the endings could at least simmer down enough to stop taking everything so personally.

Well those that hate the ending get all antsy when certain folks talk down to them and call them entitled children.

But it's perfectly okay for people to talk down to those that liked the ending, because after all they are just a minority group right?

[CavScout]

Aanlen wrote...

I'm equally baffled everytime someone defends these endings. So far the only argument people use when they defend these endings are "DARK IS DEEP AND ARTSY, HOW DO YOU NOT SEE THE PURE WIN OF THESE ENDIGNS?". Would anyone care to elaborate this? How DOES the ones who like/support the endings justify the flaws and plot holes, or the unkept promises of "there wont be an A, B or C ending".

We realize it is a video game and don't need some self-envisioned ending to give meaning to our lives.

[Mystical_Gaming]

I think most that enjoyed the endings .. sorry the ONE ending didn't invest much time into the series overall. I can see someone just playing ME3 going "what's the big deal?" but if you've been apart of ME since day one in 2007 then it means a lot more.

[bti79]

jumpingkaede wrote...

I suspect the music. It's gorgeous.

+1. The only good part about the ending. So good it almost excuses the poor ending - almost

[111987]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Simpfan wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Militarized wrote...

I could be really, really rude and describe my true feelings about most people who like the endings but... I think it's a mixed bag of people not paying attention and just nodding their head along and others being contrarian just to be a contrarian.

Here we go again - and this is exactly why I can barely stand a lot of the people in this "movement" now. If you can't accept that some people appreciate (like me) are give a bit more weight to the philosophical nature of the endings (the ideas behind them too) and can live with the plot holes (I'm certainly not ignorant of them or the other issues), well, I could certainly be really rude and describe my true feelings about you people too. Which is pretty sad, given that I was supportive of you. But hey, thanks for another reminder of why I won't do that anymore for your "movement" as a whole.

Queue the replies talking about how the poor, put open, down trodden masses are constantly hated everywhere so its only fair to be a dick in return.

And this is so hilarious, because in threads where some genius decided to insult your group as whole, I've actually said that calling you guys names doesn't help and that you have entirely valid reasons for being dissatisifed (when I actually noticed things like that in the flood of hate threads and cared enough to respond).

Congrats on making another assumption there. *adds your response to the growing list of reasons for being ill-disposed towards the "movement"* I have zero interest in keeping the peace at this point or trying to get people on both sides to behave reasonably and civilly towards each other, so if they go to town on you now, I don't care anymore thanks to the stuff I read in threads like these.

And that poster up there with the image that's quite likely a violation of the site rules is such a shining exemplar of how mature you can all be. *sarcasm* BTW, that's a hint that you should probably remove it before you get into trouble, guy with the ill-advised and insulting image whose name I don't care to remember.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding here, but I actually thought Simpfan was agreeing with you.