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[Uneazy]

http://www.pcgamer.c...name=0&ns_fee=0

[Farbautisonn]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

The irony that most of those quotes lines are not lies...not technicly.

Think about it for a second.

-That only makes it worse.

[Mars8309]

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...

No offence, but all I am seeing is this...

"Mommy, the big bad corporation lied to us!"

You guys are acting like this is the first time corporations have lied to people. I mean come on, if every corporation was sued for falsely advertising and not keeping promises would there even be any corporations?

Welcome to the world.

So... its ok to live in a world where game company's say there going have alot of fun-exciting things in there game...with action, some love, fights, battles, wars, and so on... to a point they say "the ending of the game ties up all the loose knots of the game you just played." When played and finished. it isn't explained. When they say the gamers will get closer on the game. Funny how that was cut. Because closure wouldn't leave questions on the cut scene's shown from a, b, or c. The Halo series triology 343 had closure as all the loose ends were tied in. Only thing that was left is leaving one Question about Master Chief. Thats it. Mass Effect 3: things at the end of the game the last 30 minutes left confusion. At the end of the game nothing was answered.... just dumbfounded confusion.

Politicans have done this many times. in the end they get punished by being voted out the office....or sooner as the voters; they get a recall the politican out of office before a general election...for example... Wisconsion on the ban on Unions. How many months did the people stay in the statehouse? Just to be heard?
Then you got the Occupy Wall Street in many cities. Thats been going on for several months. And the numbers still growing.

All around this country and the world people are taking a stand for what they believe in. They are speaking out.  The ones speaking out are the ones ignoring those that poke fun at them because they don't get it. They don't understand why they are speaking out.

Game companys make promises say things about feedback and such...do they listen? hell no Just like politicans you give them an idea on something and you get a reponse of please vote for me! Politicans care for the power as game companys care for the money. When pissed off people that pay for there games decide to return there game or refuse to get the DLC...its a wake up call for a change.
Thats how a business works in this world.
If they don't listen to a customers voice then anyone way for them to listen is the loss of profits.

[Elhanan]

No lies seen; simply a lot of people allowing emotion to sway reason, and bias to cloud judgement. IMO.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

The irony that most of those quotes lines are not lies...not technicly.

Think about it for a second.

-That only makes it worse.

In a way. It's marketing speak. It's EA.
I mean honestly - anyone who gets too hyped is kinda asking for it.

They said multiple endings - the game has multiple endings. True, they feel like they've been put together slopily, but tehy're there.

They saind a and adn conclusion - and it is. They never said you're gonna love it.

[Lotion Soronarr]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

The only lie that pissed me off was the MP lie. Good God, I don't want to play MP. Where's my Shep live ending, Bioware!

Your ending? Nothing in ME is yours really. There is no "your" ending. Only the ending devs wanted.

And if they watned all endings with Shep dead. Tough luck.

[Lotion Soronarr]

beetlebailey123 wrote...
That's kind of insulting. I don't feel entitled to anything. Frankly we have been very civil, and calm about this. In fact if you haven't heard we have donated almost 70k to childs play. I don't know where you get your information from, but I respectfully disagree with both you, and Tazz's stances on us. Bioware promised a great deal of things, and did not deliever. We are simply requesting they correct it. Please before you bring the flame swords, read, and understand our protest.

lol.

Protesting worked so well for all the other games that "failed to deliver".

[FixitBioware11]

Casey Hudson is the new Peter Molydeux

Modifié par FixitBioware11, 20 mars 2012 - 11:28 .

[FixitBioware11]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

The irony that most of those quotes lines are not lies...not technicly.

Think about it for a second.

-That only makes it worse.

In a way. It's marketing speak. It's EA.
I mean honestly - anyone who gets too hyped is kinda asking for it.


They said multiple endings - the game has multiple endings. True, they feel like they've been put together slopily, but tehy're there.

They saind a and adn conclusion - and it is. They never said you're gonna love it.

This man speaks the truth we have the pain staking decision of red, blue or green to make!

Modifié par FixitBioware11, 20 mars 2012 - 11:27 .

[Ronin1325]

FixitBioware11 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

The irony that most of those quotes lines are not lies...not technicly.

Think about it for a second.

-That only makes it worse.

In a way. It's marketing speak. It's EA.
I mean honestly - anyone who gets too hyped is kinda asking for it.


They said multiple endings - the game has multiple endings. True, they feel like they've been put together slopily, but tehy're there.

They saind a and adn conclusion - and it is. They never said you're gonna love it.

This man speaks the truth we have the pain staking decision of red, blue or green to make!

Unless you're colorblind, then you are just pooched.   Maybe we should just stick with "A", "B", or "C" to avoid that. Oh, wait...

[chaosapiant]

Eh. I didn't read a single lie in this post. Lots of exaggeration, and some things are certainly misleading. But I didn't find anything to be an outright lie.

[Wikkr]

depends on yer standard of what a lie is. They did what they specificly said they wouldnt do with the abc ending, the diddnt deliver the closure they promised with all the questions answered infact they left you with some new ones. the choices you had made throughout the whole saga made no impact on the ending you got despite what they promised. Now id consider the prerelease comments and interviews to be lies considering what they gave us

[Balrogen4]

90% of the BSN community hates the endings, thats 50 thousand people out of 1-2 million, how many of these 1-2 million played Mass Effect 1 - 2? I may sound arrogant but if you didn't atleast play ME2 you have NO right to defend the endings, second, I know 5 people who has never posted on this site ever that also has finished ME3 and hates its guts.
Don't come and say that 50 thousand is a small sample size, it's atleast 5% of the player base and you can bet that there's thousands more that hates this ending that have not participated in the polls.
If you like the endings, you are ignorant of Mass Effect Lore and Mass Effects general theme.

[BiancoAngelo7]

Wow this goes beyond even Molyneux level of deception. At least that dou**e was vague and non descript, Bioware flat out lied about specific details...

[Oron345]

FixitBioware11 wrote...

Casey Hudson is the new Peter Molydeux

At least PM had the decency of apologising before running off and doing it again though.

[Farbautisonn]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

In a way. It's marketing speak. It's EA.
I mean honestly - anyone who gets too hyped is kinda asking for it.

They said multiple endings - the game has multiple endings. True, they feel like they've been put together slopily, but tehy're there.

They saind a and adn conclusion - and it is. They never said you're gonna love it.

-I dont think its a question of getting too hyped. Its a question of us not getting what we were specifically promised. Not really going to go further into that... there are threads aplenty about it.

The "multiple endings" really are only colour variations of the same. When you juxtapose the endings (as was done on youtube) you really wonder how much effort they put into it. It just seems rushed and lazy. To me the "three endings" were more or less the same and they failed miserably to bring any sense of closure or answer any questions.

Nope. I dont need to love it. And I dont have to pay any following dlc or games from Bioware either. Bioware doesnt have to get my money.

Modifié par Farbautisonn, 20 mars 2012 - 12:18 .

[vometia]

HenchxNarf wrote...

They won't. They won't stop until the run everyone off the boards, have Obama get involved, and make gamers everywhere look like a bunch of whining entitled idjits. They will never take us seriously again.

And what's really the kicker, they're doing all of this for nothing. Bioware isn't going to change anything. EA won't change anything. The only success they will have is to make everyone look at ALL gamers in a bad light.

One thing that I think does need to stop is the over-use of this "entitled" thing.  People who've parted with money for a product they're unhappy with are actually entitled to voice their opinion, like it or not.  My personal feeling is that what puts people in a bad light is to unquestioningly consume, but maybe that's just me.

[Ronin1325]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

In a way. It's marketing speak. It's EA.
I mean honestly - anyone who gets too hyped is kinda asking for it.

They said multiple endings - the game has multiple endings. True, they feel like they've been put together slopily, but tehy're there.

They saind a and adn conclusion - and it is. They never said you're gonna love it.

-I dont think its a question of getting too hyped. Its a question of us not getting what we were specifically promised. Not really going to go further into that... there are threads aplenty about it.

The "multiple endings" really are only colour variations of the same. When you juxtapose the endings (as was done on youtube) you really wonder how much effort they put into it. It just seems rushed and lazy. To me the "three endings" were more or less the same and they failed miserably to bring any sense of closure or answer any questions.

Nope. I dont need to love it. And I dont have to pay any following dlc or games from Bioware either. Bioware doesnt have to get my money.

Yes, AngryJoe's review-



Remains one of the best Juxtapositions of the three-color endings. When you see them like that, with nearly identical assets, it stretches the term "Wildly Divergent" endings to the breaking point.

[Getorex]

vometia wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

They won't. They won't stop until the run everyone off the boards, have Obama get involved, and make gamers everywhere look like a bunch of whining entitled idjits. They will never take us seriously again.

And what's really the kicker, they're doing all of this for nothing. Bioware isn't going to change anything. EA won't change anything. The only success they will have is to make everyone look at ALL gamers in a bad light.

One thing that I think does need to stop is the over-use of this "entitled" thing.  People who've parted with money for a product they're unhappy with are actually entitled to voice their opinion, like it or not.  My personal feeling is that what puts people in a bad light is to unquestioningly consume, but maybe that's just me.

Absolutely correct.  In addition, people who spent THEIR money on this lie are entitled to get their money back...hence, Amazon.com IS giving refunds for returns of Mass Effect 3.  Origin/EA Games is allowing you to exchange Mass Effect 3 for another game title of your choice of the same value. 

We pay, we hate it, our money says we are ENTITLED to voice our opinion and various companies are likewise properly allowing dissatisfied customers to GET THEIR MONEY BACK OR DUMP THE GAME FOR A BETTER ONE.  Like this fact, don't like this fact.   It is just a fact and it has to be sucked up.

[Getorex]

People...what will Hudson understand more, complaints and polls in forums or loss of revenue? He doesn't give a flying f*ck for your opinions - he's too full of himself for that - but he cannot ignore loss of cash. RETURN your game if you got it from Amazon.com. They give refunds! If, like me, you got it from Origin/EA Games then they will allow you to exchange it for any other title of your choice of the same cost. DO IT.

You can always re-purchase Mass Effect 3 later...but only if/when Hudson fixes the ending. Double plus benefit is the cost of the game will likely be lower! I will buy it again myself IF the ending is fixed...for about $20.

[Elhanan]

Balrogen4 wrote...

90% of the BSN community hates the endings, thats 50 thousand people out of 1-2 million, how many of these 1-2 million played Mass Effect 1 - 2? I may sound arrogant but if you didn't atleast play ME2 you have NO right to defend the endings, second, I know 5 people who has never posted on this site ever that also has finished ME3 and hates its guts.
Don't come and say that 50 thousand is a small sample size, it's atleast 5% of the player base and you can bet that there's thousands more that hates this ending that have not participated in the polls.
If you like the endings, you are ignorant of Mass Effect Lore and Mass Effects general theme.

There are two kinds of statistics, the kind you look up and the kind you make up. - Rex Stout

So those that differ in opinion with you are ingorant? Nice; must be sweet to see your favorite loved one in the mirror every day.

[Balrogen4]

Elhanan wrote...

Balrogen4 wrote...

90% of the BSN community hates the endings, thats 50 thousand people out of 1-2 million, how many of these 1-2 million played Mass Effect 1 - 2? I may sound arrogant but if you didn't atleast play ME2 you have NO right to defend the endings, second, I know 5 people who has never posted on this site ever that also has finished ME3 and hates its guts.
Don't come and say that 50 thousand is a small sample size, it's atleast 5% of the player base and you can bet that there's thousands more that hates this ending that have not participated in the polls.
If you like the endings, you are ignorant of Mass Effect Lore and Mass Effects general theme.

There are two kinds of statistics, the kind you look up and the kind you make up. - Rex Stout

So those that differ in opinion with you are ingorant? Nice; must be sweet to see your favorite loved one in the mirror every day.

I like the the fact that you adressed my points like a rational, intelligent human being.

In every thread that points out the fact that the ending sucks the defenders are one in ten. it may not prove that
90% of BSN hates the ending but it's the closest we're gonna get.

ME3 is not a standalone game, it's part of a trilogy and therefor should follow the established facts from ME1/2. currently it does not and that's why I think people who like the ending are ignorant of Mass Effect 1 and 2.
If you can't feel the time constraints weighing down the developers at the end of the game then that's your fault.

If you like the ending please address why you liked it and address the points that the haters of the endings make, so far none of you defenders have managed to do so.

[submarinex1]

can we arrange a collection for dreez so he can buy the game it would just make it easier for him if he had the game to make posts on it.